Treasurer Jim Chalmers touched a nerve when he suggested Australians should start having more kids, but does he actually have a point? Fertility rates are falling dramatically across the world and it's stoking all sorts of fears.

Guest: Dr Jennifer Sciubba - one of the foremost experts in the field of political demography & the author of 8 Billion and Counting: How Sex, Death, and Migration Shape Our World

Recommendations:

Geraldine: Reading - You can’t even pay people to have more kids by Anna North, Vox.

Hamish: Reading - China's high stakes struggle to avoid demographics disaster by The Economist.

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