
Never Post
A podcast about and for the internet, hosted by Mike Rugnetta
Latest episodes

Apr 24, 2024 • 41min
Interlude: Important Emails, Extended Cut
😷--❤️🔥 Become a member at https://neverpo.st☎️ Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mail🗣️ Drop us a voice note via airtable📧 Email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com--Never Post's producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show's host is Mike Rugnetta. It’s easier to read the mind of a fox than to guess what a man’s about to say when he returns from the woods head full of roots veins more like branches shoes in one hand feet blistered and none of this necessarily an indication of how the feet feel what miles uphill and back have done to the soles and to the small bones that propel a manExcerpt of Rest Before You SleepBy Dionisio D. MartínezNever Post is a production of Charts & Leisure.

Apr 17, 2024 • 54min
Mailbag, Episodes 4-6
We respond to your comments!--☎️ Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mail🗣️ Drop us a voice note via airtable📧 Email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com🌐 Leave a comment at neverpo.st--Never Post's producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show's host is Mike Rugnetta. Never Post is a production of Charts & Leisure.

Apr 10, 2024 • 55min
Switched on Post
Contributing Producer Marie Kilaru discusses the emotional impacts of making and seeing Before and After posts; Charlie Harding of Switched on Pop joins Jason to talk about what pop-musical acts have sounded like the internet. Also: Georgia reads Franny Choi’s “Unrequited Lovesong for the Panopticon”Join us on Twitch, Friday, April 12th @ 2pm ET to chat about audio production!–
Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mail
Drop us a voice memo via airtable
Or email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com
–Intro Links
Why a near-miss cyberattack put US officials and the tech industry on edge – Reuters
When Facebook fails, local media matters even more for our planet’s future – Kansas Reflector
We can slay giants – Handbasket
FCC to vote to restore net neutrality rules, reversing Trump – Reuters
LinkedIn plans to add gaming to its platform – Techcrunch
Mike’s Twitch
Mike on the Alarmist!
–Before and After Photos
Find Marie at her website and on X.
Mark Gaetano is on IG and YT
Special thanks to Hannah Meacock-Ross for editorial support–What (Pop Music) Does the Internet Sound Like?You should listen to Switched on Pop generally, but also here’s the interview they did with 100 gecs.–Unrequited Love Song for the Panopticon was used with permission –Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our contributing producer this episode is Marie Kilaru. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. After the accident we hadthe phrase after the accident.Also this: before the accident.We had a drawer markedbefore and after, and afterand before happeningswe'd add atrocities andincidents and the wildasters someone beforeand after keeps leaving.After By Andre

Mar 27, 2024 • 54min
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Georgia and guest producer Luis wonder why there is so much audio online that seems to sound bad on purpose; Mike talks to Gabriele de Seta and Paolo Berti about how the “megadungeon” is a productive model for understanding the internet. Also: posts from the field!–
☎️ Call us at `651 615 5007` to leave a voice mail
🎙️ Drop us a voice memo via airtable
📧 Or email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com
–Intro
The House passed a TikTok ban bill. But is the app really a national security threat? – Bobby Allyn, NPR
Members of Congress are getting pushback on the TikTok ban from their own angry Gen Z kids – Lindsay Dodgson, Business Insider
US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones – Lauren Feiner, Verge
United States v. Apple is pure nerd rage – Sarah Jeong, Verge
Catherine, Princess of Wales, Reveals She Has Cancer – NYT
The great Kate Middleton backtracking – Embedded
Facebook is trying to make ‘poking’ cool again – Aisha Malik, TechCrunch
–Burnt Toast Audio
https://www.tiktok.com/@tiaraskye_
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https://www.tiktok.com/@theporktornadoes/video/7179733641092746542?_r=1&_t=8ktqqvEJL2d
https://www.tiktok.com/@inf1n1temusic/video/7195244395220749574?_r=1&_t=8ktqPN6UmMx
https://www.tiktok.com/@cchiphop/video/7232580386759380267?_r=1&_t=8ktpfRDu1uR
https://www.tiktok.com/@epic.cammy1933/video/7348992219698826539?_r=1&_t=8ktunEQdWZy
https://www.tiktok.com/@notamine/video/7347043430738054406?_r=1&_t=8ktqF4oIwpD
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Mar 13, 2024 • 56min
As Per My Last Podcast Episode…
The podcast discusses the exhaustion of staying informed, the quest for Diet Caffeine Free Dr. Pepper, the acquisition of Deadspin, Discord's gamification, the U.S. House voting on TikTok, email etiquette, computer vs. phone communication, and the importance of critical ignoring in the digital age.

Mar 8, 2024 • 1h 6min
Mailbag, Episodes 1-3
We respond to listener comments about independent media co-ops, the disappearance of tween fashion, posting disease, influencer voice, mourning online, and human height throughout history.--This conversation contains a single, brief mention of suicide.--☎️ Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mail🗣️ Drop us a voice note via airtable📧 Email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com🌐 Leave a comment at neverpo.st--Nick's thoughts on "Never Post" and the internet:1. One interpretation of ""Never Post"" is that it's like the internet version of the taoist wei wu wei which translates to something like ""do by not doing" and reminds us how often trying to accomplish something makes us less likely to succeed. You install a Ring camera for safety and now you're always paranoid. You complement someone for saying something smart and they stop speaking because they're afraid of sounding dumb.The historian/political scientist/anarchist James Scott borrows the term "iatrogenic" from medicine to describe how many of societies' attempts to control rivers (e.g., levees) only cause the rivers to become more unruly.Iatrogenic illnesses are ailments caused by medicine or medical care. Iatrogenic systems are ferociously hardy because simple attempts to solve them just feed them. You can think of the capitalist work ethic where the only way (besides inheritance) to secure a life of financial independence outside of capitalist pressures is to dive head first into the capitalist waters and work hard at a lucrative job for a long time (see adherents of the FIRE movement).Social media seems like a classic iatrogenic system. You dunk or subtweet an egregious post and it makes the poster post more. The truly skilled poster posts by not posting. Never posts. Learning not to repost bad posts is a major spiritual milestone for the internet citizen.2. An irony is that if the best way to steward the internet is to never post, doesn't the internet disappear under ideal stewardship? Derrida's "Structure, Sign, and Play in the Discourse of the Human Sciences" tries to solve a related problem in postmodern discourse. The problem is, every deconstruction, no matter how profound, rests on some logical/linguistic "center" that itself is not real or stable. So every deconstruction can itself be deconstructed and you just have infinite regress. If postmodernists know this, what's even the point of writing for each other any more?Derrida's solution is freeplay which is about recognizing existience as full of other world with their own "centers" that are yet all connected. A mistake is anchoring yourself to any of those single centers. Freeplay is hopping worlds with "the joyous affirmation of the play of the world and of the innocence of becoming, the affirmation of a world of signs without fault, without truth, and without origin which is offered to an active interpretation".--Never Post's producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show's host is Mike Rugnetta. Never Post is a production of Charts & Leisure.

Feb 28, 2024 • 49min
Eternal Return
Georgia talks with Tamara Kneese about how the software of the platform internet works against the social flows of grieving, and mourning. Mike then talks about men who throw ping pong balls into solo cups. ALSO: chill, lo-fi, public domain beats.-Share the show with a friend! https://www.neverpo.st/–Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mailDrop us a voice memo via airtable: https://airtable.com/appIvXY8gz5ikRbF0/pagjGcjdYg2alw8cD/formOr email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com–Intro Links
Rascal News -- https://www.rascal.news/
New York Times -- Supreme Court to Decide How the First Amendment Applies to Social Media
The Atlantic -- Texas’s Social-Media Law Is Dangerous. Striking It Down Could Be Worse.
NBC News -- Supreme Court justices express free speech concerns about GOP-backed social media laws
The Verge -- Yahoo lays off the leaders of Engadget
Terrence O’Brien -- layoff announcement
LA Times -- Vice.com News Site Shut Down
Reuters -- Vice Media to be acquired by Fortress-led lender group for $350 million
Megan Greenwell -- Fortress Investment Group destroys Gannett
New Hour – Gannett Journalists Walk Out
RIP Corp: VICE Docs
Jules Suzdaltsev -- NowThis News video deletion
Ernie Smith -- Archiving VICE
Jules Suzdaltsev -- Buying VICE archive
–Online MourningFind Tamara:
https://www.tamarakneese.com/
Death Glitch: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300248272/death-glitch/
Adriana’s tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3BfJxc/–Trickshot TimeworkersWatch some Trickshotters:
Dude Perfect,

Feb 14, 2024 • 57min
People in Places
Mike talks with sociophonologist Lisa B. Davidson about why influencer voice exists, and with bass player and YouTuber Adam Neely about the people who have been retiring from YouTube.–Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mailDrop us a voice memo via airtable: https://airtable.com/appIvXY8gz5ikRbF0/pagjGcjdYg2alw8cD/formOr email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com–Intro LinksNever Post Ep 1 Hangout Stream VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2057956412News Links:
https://www.thewrap.com/coyote-vs-acme-update-offers-warner-bros/
https://twitter.com/JoaquinCastrotx/status/1756190120334545302
https://aftermath.site/coyote-vs-acme-fuck-david-zaslav
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3712692/australias-new-right-to-disconnect-law-includes-jail-time-for-now.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/crowd-sets-waymo-self-driving-car-on-fire-they-couldn-t-even-recognize-the-vehicle/ar-BB1i9xOo
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/photo-waymo-vehicle-blocks-fire-truck-in-san-francisco/
–Why Does Influencer Voice Exist?Find Lisa:https://as.nyu.edu/faculty/lisa-b-davidson.htmlhttps://wp.nyu.edu/lisa_davidson/https://bsky.app/profile/lisabdavidson.bsky.social–The Great YouTube Retirement
This segment contains a portion of the Sungazer track Threshold: https://sungazermusic.bandcamp.com/track/threshold
1.8 Million Subscribers (and no one cares): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceZ8VS8PbQ
Tom Scott retirement video: https://youtu.be/7DKv5H5Frt0?si=SvpIUq7OUQe_M_Uk
Adam’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/havic5
Sungazer’s AUS tour dates: https://www.sungazermusic.com/tour
–Birdsong ID app, Merlin: https://merlin.allaboutbirds.org/–Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

Feb 1, 2024 • 49min
I'm Mad, You're Mad, We're All Mad Here
On the disappearance of tween-specific fashion trends, and the epidemic of Posting Disease plaguing social media. Also: a man on a mission.--Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mailDrop us a voice memo via airtable - https://airtable.com/appIvXY8gz5ikRbF0/pagjGcjdYg2alw8cD/formOr email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com–Become a member at https://www.neverpo.st/#/portal/–Intro Links
Apple Transcripts: https://podnews.net/article/apple-podcasts-transcriptions-faq
Ring and the Police: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/01/ring-announces-it-will-no-longer-facilitate-police-requests-footage-users
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-24/amazon-s-ring-to-stop-letting-police-request-video-from-users
Social CEOS on Capital Hill: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-01-30/social-media-ceos-brace-for-senate-scrutiny-on-child-safety-what-to-expect?srnd=undefined
CDC Youth Health Summary: https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/pdf/YRBS_Data-Summary-Trends_Report2023_508.pdf
Evan Greer on KOSA: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjven5/elizabeth-warren-just-backed-an-online-safety-bill-that-will-harm-lgbtq-youth
–Disappearing Tween Fashion Links
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRcEjae5/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3e7q73/
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3etHXa/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3eEMNB/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3dLQ1N/
–Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.–CC-BY Licensed Audio Usedhttps://freemusicarchive.org/music/kirk-osamayo/blue-season-4https://freesound.org/people/Qleq/sounds/679130/2010 Pop b

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Jan 31, 2024 • 37min
Episode 0: Independent Media Roundtable
Gita Jackson, Alex Sujong Laughlin, and Rusty Foster discuss the evolving media landscape and the need for independent media. They delve into topics such as the challenges and changes in the media industry, the rise and fall of the podcasting industry, the importance of sustainability, and prioritizing mental health in the workplace.