We respond to listener comments about independent media co-ops, the disappearance of tween fashion, posting disease, influencer voice, mourning online, and human height throughout history.--This conversation contains a single, brief mention of suicide.--☎️ Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mail🗣️ Drop us a voice note via airtable📧 Email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com🌐 Leave a comment at neverpo.st----Nick's thoughts on "Never Post" and the internet:1. One interpretation of ""Never Post"" is that it's like the internet version of the taoist wei wu wei which translates to something like ""do by not doing" and reminds us how often trying to accomplish something makes us less likely to succeed. You install a Ring camera for safety and now you're always paranoid. You complement someone for saying something smart and they stop speaking because they're afraid of sounding dumb.The historian/political scientist/anarchist James Scott borrows the term "iatrogenic" from medicine to describe how many of societies' attempts to control rivers (e.g., levees) only cause the rivers to become more unruly.Iatrogenic illnesses are ailments caused by medicine or medical care. Iatrogenic systems are ferociously hardy because simple attempts to solve them just feed them. You can think of the capitalist work ethic where the only way (besides inheritance) to secure a life of financial independence outside of capitalist pressures is to dive head first into the capitalist waters and work hard at a lucrative job for a long time (see adherents of the FIRE movement).Social media seems like a classic iatrogenic system. You dunk or subtweet an egregious post and it makes the poster post more. The truly skilled poster posts by not posting. Never posts. Learning not to repost bad posts is a major spiritual milestone for the internet citizen.2. An irony is that if the best way to steward the internet is to never post, doesn't the internet disappear under ideal stewardship? Derrida's "Structure, Sign, and Play in the Discourse of the Human Sciences" tries to solve a related problem in postmodern discourse. The problem is, every deconstruction, no matter how profound, rests on some logical/linguistic "center" that itself is not real or stable. So every deconstruction can itself be deconstructed and you just have infinite regress. If postmodernists know this, what's even the point of writing for each other any more?Derrida's solution is freeplay which is about recognizing existience as full of other world with their own "centers" that are yet all connected. A mistake is anchoring yourself to any of those single centers. Freeplay is hopping worlds with "the joyous affirmation of the play of the world and of the innocence of becoming, the affirmation of a world of signs without fault, without truth, and without origin which is offered to an active interpretation".--Never Post's producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show's host is Mike Rugnetta. Never Post is a production of Charts & Leisure. ★ Support this podcast ★

Georgia talks with Tamara Kneese about how the software of the platform internet works against the social flows of grieving, and mourning. Mike then talks about men who throw ping pong balls into solo cups. ALSO: chill, lo-fi, public domain beats.–Share the show with a friend! https://www.neverpo.st/–Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mailDrop us a voice memo via airtable: https://airtable.com/appIvXY8gz5ikRbF0/pagjGcjdYg2alw8cD/formOr email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com––Intro LinksRascal News -- https://www.rascal.news/New York Times -- Supreme Court to Decide How the First Amendment Applies to Social MediaThe Atlantic -- Texas’s Social-Media Law Is Dangerous. Striking It Down Could Be Worse.NBC News -- Supreme Court justices express free speech concerns about GOP-backed social media lawsThe Verge -- Yahoo lays off the leaders of EngadgetTerrence O’Brien -- layoff announcementLA Times -- Vice.com News Site Shut Down Reuters -- Vice Media to be acquired by Fortress-led lender group for $350 millionMegan Greenwell -- Fortress Investment Group destroys GannettNew Hour – Gannett Journalists Walk OutRIP Corp: VICE DocsJules Suzdaltsev -- NowThis News video deletionErnie Smith -- Archiving VICEJules Suzdaltsev -- Buying VICE archive–Online MourningFind Tamara:https://www.tamarakneese.com/Death Glitch: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300248272/death-glitch/ Adriana’s tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3BfJxc/–Trickshot TimeworkersWatch some Trickshotters:Dude Perfect, https://www.youtube.com/user/corycotton, https://www.tiktok.com/@dudeperfect Sam “Trixshot” Carlson, https://www.tiktok.com/@teamtrixshot, https://www.trixshot.com/https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsjustunrealhttps://www.tiktok.com/@magicofmatthttps://www.tiktok.com/@hulett_brothershttps://www.tiktok.com/@thebadertscherhttps://www.tiktok.com/@nextlevel_trickshots_Kierkegaard, Repetition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetition_(Kierkegaard_book)Antonia Pont, A Philosophy of Practising With Deleuze's Difference and Repetition,  https://hdl.handle.net/10536/DRO/DU:30155974Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_SisyphusTara Asgar:https://hyperallergic.com/826119/tara-asgar-embraces-freedom-in-sadness/https://www.newschool.edu/parsons/faculty/tara-asgar/–Citizen DJCitizen DJ -- https://citizen-dj.labs.loc.gov/Brian Foo -- https://brianfoo.com/A brief guide to the law and ethics of the digital sampling of recorded sound materialsSend us your tracks! We might use them on an upcoming episode.Interstitial 1 contains samples of "Off the record interview with Barry White, 1987-04-03" by Smith, Joe (1928-) (Interviewer) and White, Barry (1944 - 2003) (Interviewee). Retrieved from Joe Smith Collection at the Library of Congress, Motion Picture, Broadcasting and Recorded Sound Division.Interstitial 2 contains samples of "Off the record interview with Randy Newman, [1986-1988?]-04-15" by Smith, Joe (1928-) (Interviewer) and Newman, Randy (Interviewee). Retrieved from Joe Smith Collection at the Library of Congress, Motion Picture, Broadcasting and Recorded Sound Division.Interstitial 3 contains samples of "Bull frog blues" by Brown, Tom -- Composer, Six Brown Brothers -- Musical Group, Klickmann, F. Henri -- Arranger, Shrigley, Guy -- Composer, Brown, Fred -- Instrumentalist -- Alto Saxophone, Brown, Alec -- Instrumentalist -- Baritone Saxophone, Brown, Vern -- Instrumentalist -- Bass Saxophone, Brown, Tom -- Instrumentalist -- Alto Saxophone, Fink, Harry -- Instrumentalist -- Tenor Saxophone, and Brown, William -- Instrumentalist -- Tenor Saxophone. Retrieved from Library of Congress, National Jukebox.-Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. We have undertaken something, the consequences of which we know notWe imagine we will be forced to chooseSomething in us dramatizes the choiceWe have created a universe of oppositesWhich cannot be reconciledWe have created a dichotomyThe parts of which we cannot interpretExcept of HEADLINES from ATALANTA, Acts of God by ROBERT ASHLEYNever Post is a production of Charts & Leisure ★ Support this podcast ★

Mike talks with sociophonologist Lisa B. Davidson about why influencer voice exists, and with bass player and YouTuber Adam Neely about the people who have been retiring from YouTube.-Become a member at https://www.neverpo.st/Extended cuts of Lisa and Adam will be uploaded to the Every Post+ Members Only Feed on February 21, 2024–Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mailDrop us a voice memo via airtable: https://airtable.com/appIvXY8gz5ikRbF0/pagjGcjdYg2alw8cD/formOr email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com–Intro LinksNever Post Ep 1 Hangout Stream VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2057956412News Links:https://www.thewrap.com/coyote-vs-acme-update-offers-warner-bros/https://twitter.com/JoaquinCastrotx/status/1756190120334545302https://aftermath.site/coyote-vs-acme-fuck-david-zaslavhttps://www.computerworld.com/article/3712692/australias-new-right-to-disconnect-law-includes-jail-time-for-now.htmlhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/crowd-sets-waymo-self-driving-car-on-fire-they-couldn-t-even-recognize-the-vehicle/ar-BB1i9xOohttps://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/photo-waymo-vehicle-blocks-fire-truck-in-san-francisco/–Why Does Influencer Voice Exist?Find Lisa:https://as.nyu.edu/faculty/lisa-b-davidson.htmlhttps://wp.nyu.edu/lisa_davidson/https://bsky.app/profile/lisabdavidson.bsky.socialTikToks sampled:https://www.tiktok.com/@natalyatoryanski/video/7291653300057918751https://www.tiktok.com/@jessmollybell/video/7161853565168848133https://www.tiktok.com/@naraazizasmith1/video/7281253290875079966https://www.tiktok.com/@charlidamelio/video/7334116903818071342https://www.tiktok.com/@addisonre/video/7322092051120688430https://www.tiktok.com/@lorengray/video/7326288207518256426https://www.tiktok.com/@averybrynn1/video/6977172076121574662https://www.tiktok.com/@averybrynn1/video/7325211552372575518–The Great YouTube RetirementThis segment contains a portion of the Sungazer track Threshold: https://sungazermusic.bandcamp.com/track/threshold1.8 Million Subscribers (and no one cares): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceZ8VS8PbQTom Scott retirement video: https://youtu.be/7DKv5H5Frt0?si=SvpIUq7OUQe_M_UkAdam’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/havic5Sungazer’s AUS tour dates: https://www.sungazermusic.com/tour–Birdsong ID app, Merlin: https://merlin.allaboutbirds.org/ ––Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta. I want to be famous to shuffling men   who smile while crossing streets,   sticky children in grocery lines,   famous as the one who smiled back.I want to be famous in the way a pulley is famous,   or a buttonhole, not because it did anything spectacular,   but because it never forgot what it could do.Excerpt of Famous, by Naomi Shihab Nye. Never Post is a production of Charts & Leisure. ★ Support this podcast ★

On the disappearance of tween-specific fashion trends, and the epidemic of Posting Disease plaguing social media. Also: a man on a mission.--Call us at 651 615 5007 to leave a voice mailDrop us a voice memo via airtable - https://airtable.com/appIvXY8gz5ikRbF0/pagjGcjdYg2alw8cD/formOr email us at theneverpost at gmail dot com–Join us at https://twitch.tv/mikerugnetta on Friday, February 9th at 2pm ET to hang out and chat about the show–Become a member at https://www.neverpo.st/#/portal/–Intro LinksApple Transcripts: https://podnews.net/article/apple-podcasts-transcriptions-faqRing and the Police: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/01/ring-announces-it-will-no-longer-facilitate-police-requests-footage-usershttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-24/amazon-s-ring-to-stop-letting-police-request-video-from-usersSocial CEOS on Capital Hill: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-01-30/social-media-ceos-brace-for-senate-scrutiny-on-child-safety-what-to-expect?srnd=undefinedCDC Youth Health Summary: https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/pdf/YRBS_Data-Summary-Trends_Report2023_508.pdfEvan Greer on KOSA: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjven5/elizabeth-warren-just-backed-an-online-safety-bill-that-will-harm-lgbtq-youth–Disappearing Tween Fashion Linkshttps://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRcEjae5/https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3e7q73/https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRcEhsPD/https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3dNn6c/https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3etHXa/https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3eEMNB/https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR3dLQ1N/––Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.–CC-BY Licensed Audio Usedhttps://freemusicarchive.org/music/kirk-osamayo/blue-season-4https://freesound.org/people/Qleq/sounds/679130/2010 Pop by Akira Sora at Free Music ArchiveDream Pop by Holizna CC0 at Free Music ArchiveRetro Synths by Holizna CC0 at Free Music Archive ★ Support this podcast ★

Gita Jackson, Alex Sujong Laughlin, and Rusty Foster discuss the evolving media landscape and the need for independent media. They delve into topics such as the challenges and changes in the media industry, the rise and fall of the podcasting industry, the importance of sustainability, and prioritizing mental health in the workplace.

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