
The Tao of WAO
A podcast about the intersection of technology, society, and internet culture – with a dash of philosophy and art for good measure. Hosts: Laura Hilliger & Doug Belshaw (We Are Open Co-op)
Latest episodes

Oct 4, 2022 • 3min
S05: Intro
Our introduction to Season 5 of the Tao of WAO!

Jul 27, 2022 • 48min
S04 Episode 06: Reentering Events
Both seasoned speakers and facilitators, Laura & Doug chat about reentering in real life events. Get tips on preparing and running sessions, participating in them, networking and even event recovery in this episode.
Links
Support this podcast and other We Are Open projects and products at https://opencollective.com/weareopen
Badge Summit: https://www.thebadgesummit.com/
https://blog.weareopen.coop/keep-badges-weird-helping-people-understand-the-badges-landscape-79cc8cf7281
https://www.laurahilliger.com/facilitating-speaking/
https://dougbelshaw.com/speaking/
https://www.laurahilliger.com/media-kit/
https://www.laurahilliger.com/leadership/leading-groups-personalities/

Jun 29, 2022 • 56min
S04 Episode 05: Futurism
Today's guest is futurist, author and educator Bryan Alexander. Bryan is currently thinking loads about the intersection of education, technology and climate – so regular listeners will know why we're so excited to have him on.
Bryan Alexander's sites:
https://twitter.com/BryanAlexander/
http://futureofeducation.us/
https://bryanalexander.org/
https://ftte.us/
His books:
Academia Next https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/title/12088/academia-next
Coming Soon: Universities on Fire by Bryan Alexander!
Bryan's favourite book(s)
war & peace tolstoy: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/2600
a thousand plateaus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Thousand_Plateaus
Other links:
Age of Stupid https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300563/
Andreas Malm on how to blow up a pipeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Blow_Up_a_Pipeline

Jun 15, 2022 • 48min
S04 Episode 04: Open Impact
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Our guest Heather Leson is open advocate and the Digital Innovation Lead at the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherleson/
https://twitter.com/HeatherLeson/
Heather's favourite book(s)
Global Soul -https://bookshop.org/books/the-global-soul-jet-lag-shopping-malls-and-the-search-for-home/9780679776116
Invisible Women - https://bookshop.org/books/invisible-women-data-bias-in-a-world-designed-for-men/9781419735219
Currently Reading: Behave - Robert Sapolsky https://bookshop.org/books/behave-the-biology-of-humans-at-our-best-and-worst/9780143110910
Opening Up Social Impact-Focused Organizations
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6917798799012712449/
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/open-organization/open-perspectives/main/opening-up-social-impact-focused-organizations/opening-up-social-impact-focused-organizations.pdf
https://github.com/open-organization/open-perspectives/raw/main/opening-up-social-impact-focused-organizations/opening-up-social-impact-focused-organizations.epub
Apps and courses
Komoot https://www.komoot.com
Applied Behavioral Design course https://www.behavioraldesign.academy/courses/applied-behavioral-design
50 shades of open: https://firstmonday.org/article/view/6360/5460
What we talk about when we talk about open https://learnwith.weareopen.coop/courses/open-course/

May 31, 2022 • 39min
S04 Episode 03: Self Hosting IT
Support us! opencollective.com/weareopen
In this episode Laura and Doug start chatting about Self Hosting IT and end up talking politics, perspectives, behaviour and more.
- dougbelshaw.com/blog/2022/05/23/jitsi-sociocracy/
- wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Fifty_Shades_of_Open
- learnwith.weareopen.coop/courses/open-course/
- raw.githubusercontent.com/open-organiz…izations.pdf
- app.optery.com/login

May 5, 2022 • 51min
S04 Episode 02: Civic society
We talk about identity, civic society and how Twitter isn't a public square.
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall
- https://clalliance.org/blog/curate-or-be-curated-why-our-information-environment-is-crucial-to-a-flourishing-democracy-civil-society/
- https://thoughtshrapnel.com/2022/04/25/highlights-from-the-internet-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/
The 4 charges: Internet is addictive, Shaping life through an algorithm, No democratic oversight, universal surveillance
- Andy Clark "Mindware: An Introduction to the Philosophy of Cognitive Science"
- McLuhan's 4 laws - how media/tech affect society: https://social-epistemology.com/2012/11/11/gregory-sandstrom-laws-of-media-the-four-effects-a-mcluhan-contribution-to-social-epistemology/
- https://ambiguiti.es/sitting-with-ambiguity/
- https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2022/04/26/twitter-musk-thoughts/
- https://www.laurahilliger.com/models/cyberspace-and-the-%e2%80%9cvirtualitatslagerung%e2%80%9d/

Apr 12, 2022 • 41min
S04 Episode 01: Restorative justice
(Content warning) In this episode we speak with Kayleigh Walsh, an Outlandish colleague, about restorative justice, trust and more. This podcast season is currently unfunded. You can support this podcast and other We Are Open projects and products at https://opencollective.com/weareopen.
Kayleigh's favourite book(s)
- Richard Powers the overstory
- House of Spirits Isabella Allende
Restorative Justice
- Circles SE: https://circlessoutheast.org.uk/
- Adrienne Maree Brown: https://adriennemareebrown.net/
- Building OUT: https://outlandish.com/building-out/

Mar 22, 2022 • 45min
S03 Episode 06 - Ragbag of random
WAO stuff
Learn with WAO launch https://blog.weareopen.coop/learn-with-we-are-open-co-op-8a4dd9f31874
Audience Ikigai https://blog.weareopen.coop/audience-ikigai-be0cebe4cea
How to set Open Standards: https://blog.weareopen.coop/howto-set-open-standards-for-your-project-3e4aa1f57e1b
Architectures of Participation https://weareopen.coop/aop
Emergent Community building https://blog.weareopen.coop/emergent-community-building-a35f9431d8a
https://Badges.community
Newsletters
https://thoughtshrapnel.com/newsletter/
Explaining ideas - https://thoughtshrapnel.com/2022/02/01/explaining-ideas/
Check your perspective - https://thoughtshrapnel.com/2022/02/04/check-your-perspective/
Decentralising the description of skills with OSMT - https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2022/02/03/skills-osmt/
https://www.laurahilliger.com/newsletter/
Recommended newsletters
Dense Discovery: https://www.densediscovery.com/
Supergranular: https://supergranular.substack.com/
Memex
Dan Hon
Orbital Operations
Just Two Things
Anne Helen Peterson: https://annehelen.substack.com/
Sentiers
University of Winds
Aaron Davis
Other stuff
Bonfire Zappa project - https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/zappa_report
Boring crypto definitions - https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2022/01/28/boring-crypto-definitions/
Sitting with ambiguity for innovation projects (or life in general!) - https://ambiguiti.es/sitting-with-ambiguity/
8 tips for creating cultural change in your organization > https://opensource.com/open-organization/15/11/8-tips-cultural-change-organization
Switching from Telegram to Signal - https://thoughtshrapnel.com/2022/03/07/switching-from-telegram-to-signal/

Feb 24, 2022 • 48min
S03 Episode 05 - Social Impact Games
Today we talk to our guest, Adam Procter, Interim Head of the new Department Art & Media Technology at University of Southampton about social impact games, game design and more.
Support the Tao of WAO: https://opencollective.com/weareopen/
Adam Procter:
https://discursive.adamprocter.co.uk/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/procter/
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2022/feb/21/spawn-of-wordle-five-of-the-best-riffs-on-the-hit-word-game
Adam's sites and tools:
https://adamprocter.co.uk
https://nodenogg.in/
https://discursive.adamprocter.co.uk/2021/07/06/wayfinder-game.html
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/courses/games-design-and-art-degree-ba
https://www.instagram.com/gamesdesignart/
Social Impact games:
https://news.sky.com/story/climate-change-can-gaming-make-us-go-greener-12372861
https://playing4theplanet.org/news/ggj21-gamers-to-act-for-nature/
https://webpages.tuni.fi/gamification/gamiforest-coffee-talks/
Daybreak
https://www.daybreakgame.org
https://medium.com/climate-crisis-the-game
The homelessness game and others from Adam's students:
https://kompile.co.uk/university/
PlayMob - take UN's SDGs and see if there's a way to influence design
https://www.forbes.com/sites/afdhelaziz/2019/08/09/the-power-of-purpose-how-jude-ower-and-playmob-are-using-videogames-for-good/?sh=338b9d263791
The list of books Adam mentions:
- teaching to transgress (bell hooks)
- deschooling society (Ivan Ilich)
>"Most learning is not the result of instruction. It is rather the result of unhampered participation in a meaningful setting." — Ivan Illich
- passion projects peers and play (Mitch Resnick)
- Dune
- Fight club (true I picked the weakest one :)
- the monsters of education technology (Audrey Watters)
- surveillance captalism (Shoshana Zuboff)
- Nudge (Richard H. Thaler)
- Catch 22
- The Catcher in the Rye
- The design of everyday things (Don Norman)
In a short commentary posted to her website in 2004, science fiction author Ursula K. Le Guin wrote that the concept of technology is “consistently misused to mean only the enormously complex and specialized technologies of the past few decades, supported by massive exploitation both of natural and human resources.” Rather, she argued, technology should be understood more expansively, as the way “society copes with physical reality… the active human interface with the material world.” Technology, as the sum of “what we can learn to do.” - https://newpublic.org/article/1610/introduction

Feb 17, 2022 • 54min
S03 Episode 04 - Misinformation
This episode we chat about misinformation and disinformation. We explore some useful frameworks about information and critical thinking too.
Support us! https://opencollective.com/weareopen
Fake news. It’s complicated. > https://firstdraftnews.org/articles/fake-news-complicated/
MisInfoCon > https://misinfocon.com/
The archive shows the most popular posts: https://misinfocon.com/archive
Countering Extremists on Social Media: Challenges for Strategic Communication and Content Moderation > https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/poi3.236
Memes --> https://misinfocon.com/meme-wars-f03dc6db471d
Birds aren't real > https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/09/podcasts/the-daily/why-would-anybody-claim-that-birds-arent-real.html
The Zappa project > https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/bonfire_cos/
Joe Rogan has responded to the protests against Spotify over his podcast > https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/npr/npr-story/1076891070