
The Tao of WAO
A podcast about the intersection of technology, society, and internet culture – with a dash of philosophy and art for good measure. Hosts: Laura Hilliger & Doug Belshaw (We Are Open Co-op)
Latest episodes

Jun 26, 2023 • 45min
S06 Episode 04: Coop Economy
Laura & Doug talk to John Atherton, cooperative expert and the Project Organiser for workers.coop.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Links:
CoTech: https://www.coops.tech/
Workers.coop: https://workers.coop
ICA structure (like the UN for co-ops): https://ica.coop/en/whats-co-op/co-operative-identity-values-principles
https://apolitical.co/solution-articles/en/italian-region-30-gdp-comes-cooperatives
John Atherton:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnatherton/
https://www.uk.coop/start-new-co-op/find-adviser/john-atherton

Jun 12, 2023 • 49min
S06 Episode 03: Real Community
Laura & Doug talk about community and content and a grab bag of other themes close to the cooperative world and the work of WAO.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Links
The Art of Community [IMAGE] https://blog.weareopen.coop/the-art-of-community-cultivating-online-connections-738cc90b0a39
TWiT - https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech/episodes/925?autostart=false
Mastodon blog post: https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/05/a-new-onboarding-experience-on-mastodon/
Doug's toot: https://social.coop/@dajb/110293920668304301
Dealing with criticism in your open source community/project (Laura's post)
https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/8/what-to-do-when-nobody-participates
How to manage feedback in your open project: https://opensource.com/open-organization/21/7/manage-feedback-open-project
Eternal September: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
Bluesky: https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/4/29/23702979/bluesky-twitter-elon-musk-jack-dorsey-chrissy-teigen-aoc-dril-decentralized
Moderation: https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/21/bluesky-moderation-new-features/
Vinay Gupta talk (2010) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm5o-ughyD8

Jun 5, 2023 • 55min
S06 Episode 02: Worker Wellbeing
Today we're pleased to speak with Emily Goligoski, the Head of Research at Charter. Emily is wicked smart and thinking about the future of work, what we really need from work, mentorship in the workplace and so much more.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Links:
https://www.emilygoligoski.com/
https://www.charterworks.com/
Books: https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao
Some of the research we discuss:
https://www.charterworks.com/charter-research-mentorship-remote-hybrid/
https://www.charterworks.com/charter-business-leaders-survey-working-arrangements/
A couple of random related posts:
https://blog.weareopen.coop/bring-your-full-self-to-work-day-7efbaea914f1
https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2017/8/reverse-mentoring-it-right-it

May 31, 2023 • 49min
S06 Episode 01: Co-op Spirit
Today we talk to Micky Metts, a Cooperative Consultant and speaker, and Melissa Bingham, a privacy, security and ethical tech advocate.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Links:
https://agaric.coop/
https://communitybridge.com/privacyworkshops
https://www.meet.coop/
https://mayfirst.coop/en/
https://www.instagram.com/theconscioustechpivot/
https://www.instagram.com/TheMelissaExperience/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa--bingham/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mickymetts/
https://workers.coop

Dec 8, 2022 • 49min
S05 Episode 06: Recap & Fedi
Laura and Doug reflect on the season and share loads of thoughts about the fediverse migration, content warnings and more in this recap episode.
Support our work > https://opencollective.com/weareopen
Join the book club > https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao

Dec 1, 2022 • 51min
S05 Episode 05: Communities of Practice
Today we talk to Julie Keane and Mark Otter from Participate.com – a platform and service designed to support and operationalize Communities of Practice. https://www.participate.com/
Books (check out our new Book Club: https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book )
Anne Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Underworld by Don DeLillo
Power Broker by Robert A. Caro
The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz
Links
Keep Badges Weird https://badges.community
Keep Badges Weird badges: https://app.participate.com/pages/community-faq
Open Badges: https://openbadges.org/
W3C Verifiable Credentials - VC-EDU: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/vc-ed/
Value Cycles: https://wao.wtf/gallery/985r0dyrz7
Bob Mortimer - Train Guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2VoHdpj2ZA

Nov 3, 2022 • 48min
S05 Episode 04: Feminist Pedagogy
Today we're talking with Anne Hilliger, a collaborator studying media education and the lead author of We Are Open Co-op's new course on Feminist Pedagogy.
Anne's favourite books:
Invisible Women
Margaret Atwood - Oryx & Crake
Feminism Is For Everybody, Especially Educators!
https://learnwith.weareopen.coop/courses/fife/
Links
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/swedish-government-scraps-countrys-pioneering-feminist-foreign-policy
https://kotaku.com/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-ther-5910857
https://opensource.com/open-organization/17/11/privilege-walk-exercise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I3wJ7pJUjg

Oct 27, 2022 • 44min
S05 Episode 03: Workshopping
Laura and Doug have a chat with Pedram Parasmand, a workshop designer, leadership coach, team builder and consultant.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedramparasmand/
https://theskillslab.com
Ped's favourite books:
- Fiction: '1984' by George Orwell
- Non-fiction: 'The Art of Possibility' by Rosamund Stone Zander & Benjamin Zander

Oct 18, 2022 • 50min
S05 Episode 02: Learning Sociocracy
Today we're talking to Aaron Hirtenstein, an organisational development advisor, collaborator, and cooperative badass.
https://twitter.com/shepherdstone21
https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-hirtenstein-5862032a/
Aaron's books:
'The Count of Monte Cristo' by Alexandre Dumas
'A Suitable Boy' by Vikram Seth, An Equal Music
Collins guide to Mushrooms
Links
Building OUT: https://outlandish.com/building-out/
Open Food Network: https://openfoodnetwork.org/

Oct 11, 2022 • 47min
S05 Episode 01: Blended Learning
Welcome to Season 5! The season kicks off with guest Elizabeth Godwin, the Global Lead, Digital Learning and Architecture at Greenpeace International
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-musar-godwin/
Books
- Pride & Prejudice (Jane Austen)
- Fire Island (Hulu) - new adaptation
Notes
Honey & Mumford - https://www.eln.co.uk/blog/honey-and-mumford-learning-styles