
The Tao of WAO
A podcast about the intersection of technology, society, and internet culture – with a dash of philosophy and art for good measure. Hosts: Laura Hilliger & Doug Belshaw (We Are Open Co-op)
Latest episodes

Oct 30, 2023 • 45min
S08 Episode 02: Literacies for Our True Selves
Dialogue with experts focusing on the themes of Race, Gender, AI, and Geographic Location & Language/Localisation. Each expert delves into how these areas influence and shape the future trajectories of media and information literacy.
Support this podcast: https://opencollective.com/weareopen

Oct 25, 2023 • 36min
S08 Episode 01: Season Intro
This season of the podcast is looking at the future of new literacies as part of a submission to the Winter 2023 edition of the Journal for Media Literacy. Our guest host for the season is Ian O'Byrne
https://www.linkedin.com/in/wiobyrne/
Support this podcast: https://opencollective.com/weareopen

Oct 2, 2023 • 41min
S07 Episode 06: AI Literacy
The podcast discusses AI literacy, shifts in perception of literacy with technology advancement, and upcoming Season 8 plans. They explore oral storytelling revival, societal impacts, AI advancements, critical thinking with AI tools, and future collaborations with Journal of Media Literacy.

Sep 26, 2023 • 44min
S07 Episode 05: Workforce development
In this episode we speak with Krystal Rawls, the Program Leader and Storyteller currently directing the Cal State University Dominguez Hills Workforce Integration Network.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
https://www.linkedin.com/in/professorrawls/
https://toby-89881.medium.com/explode-on-impact-cba283b908cb

Sep 18, 2023 • 54min
S07 Episode 04: Public Service and AI
Today's guest is Matt Jukes, a self-described 'product person' who just left the position of Head of Profession for Product Management at the UK government's Department for Business and Trade. He's got a really useful newsletter called Public Service Internet jobs and is an all-round interesting person.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Links
https://www.jukes.ie/
https://tinyletter.com/jukesie
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjukes/
https://digitalbydefault.com/2023/05/21/dc-days/
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mjukes_five-year-anniversary-of-my-dumbest-work-activity-7079159577564303360-F8qE
https://digitalbydefault.com/2023/06/04/2023-ambitions-story-so-far/

Sep 11, 2023 • 52min
S07 Episode 03: Cognitive Liberty
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Inspiration for this episode from Nita Farahany on Undivided Attention, The Battle for your Brain.
https://your-undivided-attention.simplecast.com/episodes/protecting-our-freedom-of-thought-with-nita-farahany-_HAu6pb4
Deconstructing power in the age of AI: https://www.laurahilliger.com/models/deconstructing-power-in-the-age-of-ai/

Sep 4, 2023 • 46min
S07 Episode 02: Credentials and AI
Today's guests are Tim Riches founding director of Navigatr and Omid Mufeed, CTO at Navigatr. We're talking about their history, open badge technology and new AI improvements in the world of badging and credentialling
Links
https://www.navigatr.org/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-riches-a784792/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/omufeed/

Aug 29, 2023 • 40min
S07 Episode 01: Curiosity Is Human
Today's guests are Paul Ashcroft and Garrick Jones from The Curious Advantage podcast. They are both co-founders of The Ludic Group, a highly successful business consultancy and have worked with companies such as Novartis and Coca-Cola. They are the authors of several books, including The Curious Advantage, and Digital Humans!
Links
https://www.curiousadvantage.com/
https://ludicgroup.com/
Garrick: "in Bocca" series from 1970s https://www.eatyourbooks.com/library/195510/il-buco-stories-and-recipes

Jul 10, 2023 • 37min
S06 Episode 06: Coop Lessons Pt 2
This is part 2 of Co-op Lessons. Doug and Laura chat with fellow We Are Open Co-op founding member, John Bevan about the lessons learned over the last 7 years of running a cooperative.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Links
https://wiki.weareopen.coop/en/guidelines/running-a-project
https://learnwith.weareopen.coop/courses/meetings-course/

Jul 3, 2023 • 39min
S06 Episode 5: Co-op Lessons
In this 2 part episode, Doug and Laura chat with fellow We Are Open Co-op founding member, John Bevan about the lessons learned over the last 7 years of running a cooperative.
https://opencollective.com/weareopen
https://literal.club/club/tao-of-wao/book
Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication
https://outlandish.com/workshops/reframing-conflict/
FONT: https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2023/03/08/font-and-nvc/
https://outlandish.com/blog/abi-is-stepping-down-from-being-a-member-of-outlandish/