

Future Contracts
Electra Japonas at Law Insider
The legal industry is changing fast—and contracts are at the center of it. Future Contracts is the podcast where Electra Japonas talks to the people reshaping how legal work gets done. From AI to workflows, redlines to risk, each episode dives into the real-world tools, strategies, and shifts redefining the next era of contracting. Powered by Law Insider.
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Sep 9, 2025 • 49min
Ep 12: Scaling Legal Ops Globally
Electra sits down with Alex Herrity, Director of Legal Solutions at Adidas, to talk about what it really takes to scale legal operations in a global business. From his journey as a contracts lawyer to leading a legal ops team, Alex shares lessons on technology, AI pilots, change management, and how legal can position itself as an innovator inside the enterprise.Alex is also the co-host of Law // What’s Next, a podcast exploring the future of legal ops and technology.

Sep 2, 2025 • 42min
Ep 11: AI-First or AI-Enabled?
Lawyer, consultant, and creator Chrissie Wolfe joins Electra Japonas to talk about the future of law in an AI-powered world. They explore what it means to be an AI-first versus AI-enabled firm, why lawyers struggle with identity when facing technological change, and how Gen Z is reshaping the profession with fresh perspectives. Chrissie also shares her journey of building an independent practice, the role of social media in her career, and why firms should see junior lawyers as both learners and leaders.

Aug 26, 2025 • 44min
Ep 10: Plain Language, Clear Contracts
Contracts shouldn’t be confusing. In this episode of Future Contracts, Electra sits down with Frances Gordon, UK ambassador for the Plain Language Association International, to unpack how plain language and the new ISO 24495 standard are reshaping legal and financial documents.They explore why clarity reduces disputes and builds trust, how plain language can actually lower risk, and the surprising role generative AI can play in scaling these efforts. Frances also shares real-world examples and points to case studies collected in Writing for Dollars, Writing to Please, showing how clear communication drives real business results.If you’ve ever wrestled with unreadable contracts—or wondered how to make them better—this episode is for you.

Aug 5, 2025 • 44min
Ep 9: The Legal Tech Adoption Gap
The Legal Tech Adoption GapFeaturing Joost Bokhorst, Senior Legal Counsel at CyberArkWhy do legal teams invest in tech tools—only to see them sit unused? In this episode, Electra Japonas sits down with Joost Bokhorst to unpack the messy reality of legal tech adoption. From building a business case that speaks the language of the business, to managing expectations and driving team engagement, Joost shares real-world lessons from the front lines. Expect candid stories, practical insights, and a healthy dose of humor as they explore why change is so hard—and what to do about it.💡 Topics include:– Building a business case that actually gets funded– Why user adoption is the real make-or-break– How to avoid “tool fatigue” in growing legal teams– What vendors get wrong (and how they can do better)

Jul 29, 2025 • 47min
Ep 8: Legal Education, Evolved
🎙️ Professor, Innovator, ChangemakerIn this episode of Future Contracts, Electra sits down with Professor Marcia Narine Weldon, Director of the Transactional Skills Program at the University of Miami School of Law, to explore how legal education is evolving to meet the demands of modern practice.They discuss the rise of AI in legal workflows, how law students are being trained for roles that didn’t exist 10 years ago, and why legal design and client-centricity are non-negotiable in today’s profession. From Marcia’s experiences teaching transactional law to her observations about what makes legal teams effective, this episode bridges the classroom and the boardroom with clarity and vision.💡 Whether you’re training the next generation or leading a team today, this conversation is packed with forward-looking insight.

Jul 22, 2025 • 51min
Ep 7: Rethinking Law Through Design
What happens when you apply design thinking to legal work—without the buzzwords?In this episode, Electra is joined by Astrid Kohlmeier, a pioneer in legal design and co-author of The Legal Design Book. Together they unpack what legal design really means beyond sticky notes and whiteboards—and how it’s driving a more human, usable, and intuitive approach to contracts and legal systems.They talk about:The misconceptions and hype around legal designHow design helps lawyers better align with business needsWhere the biggest friction still exists in contract workflowsThe balance between visual tools and legal substanceWhether you're new to legal design or deep in the weeds of process improvement, this conversation challenges assumptions and invites a fresh take on the role of design in legal transformation.📘 Want to explore more? Check out The Legal Design Book by Astrid Kohlmeier and Meera Klemola — a hands-on guide to rethinking legal systems through user-centered design.🎧 Subscribe to The Future Contracts Podcast for more conversations about what’s changing in the world of contracts—and who’s building what’s next.

Jul 15, 2025 • 51min
Ep 6: Legal's Role: Builder, Not Bottleneck
In this episode of Future Contracts, Electra Japonas speaks with Nate Kostelnik, in-house counsel at the Oncology Nursing Society, about how in-house teams can build scalable, repeatable systems around commercial contracting. Drawing on his experience with procurement, standardization, and internal playbooks, Nate shares how his team is empowering business partners to manage contracts more independently—without compromising legal oversight. They discuss how data can drive smarter fallback positions, why lawyers should rethink their role in enabling business, and what it really looks like to operationalize legal workflows inside a mission-driven nonprofit.Whether you're building a legal function from scratch or trying to scale without burning out your legal team, this episode is packed with thoughtful insight on the real future of contracts.

Jul 8, 2025 • 49min
Ep 5: Rethinking Legal Tech
Richard Tromans, founder of Artificial Lawyer and legal innovation analyst, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of legal tech. He distinguishes between hype cycles and real innovation, urging the industry to focus on meaningful transformation. The discussion covers the three phases of legal tech, why many lawyers aren’t utilizing current tools, and the increasing influence of clients demanding change. Tromans also addresses the role of AI in the future of legal work and critiques the designs of existing tech products.

Jul 1, 2025 • 54min
Ep 4: Innovation Is Not Optional
Jana Blount, a veteran legal innovation consultant, delves into the necessity of change within the legal industry. She argues that clients are the driving force behind this shift and discusses how design thinking can revolutionize legal services. The conversation highlights the impact of AI on expectations, urging legal teams to move beyond mere efficiency. Blount also stresses the importance of empathy and collaboration in initiating meaningful change while emphasizing the need for innovative mindsets to thrive amid a rapidly evolving landscape.

Jun 24, 2025 • 53min
Ep 3: Training Lawyers for the AI Era
Is the Legal Industry Training Lawyers for the World They're Entering?In this episode, Electra Japonas sits down with Terra Potter to unpack how legal training must evolve alongside the rise of AI, automation, and client demands. From commercial awareness to system design, Terra argues that junior lawyers need more than legal doctrine—they need to understand the why behind their work.They explore what risk really means, how to embed business thinking into legal workflows, and why lawyers must become architects of legal systems—not just practitioners within them.