

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica and Global Optimism
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.As we approach the middle of the decisive decade for world emissions, and the 10 year anniversary of the Paris climate agreement, subscribe to Outrage + Optimism: The Climate PodcastAnd join us for our special Inside COP series with co-host Fiona McRaith where we bring you behind the scenes of COP30 in Belém! And to see video content from the show, follow us on LinkedIn, and Instagram. Got a question? Send us a voice message.This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 5, 2021 • 44min
127. Live from COP26! Energy For People and Planet
Coming to you LIVE from Energy Day at COP26! So, energy and climate change. Where should we start? With both the IEA World Energy Outlook and the IPCC AR6 Scientific assessment that came out this year declaring that coal has peaked, we also know that gas and then oil must also peak and see their way to the museums, as Christiana would say. 1.5C has been the only north star at COP26 to doing things like consigning coal to history, and every step towards decarbonizing our economy paints a clearer and clearer understanding more than ever before that we have to start now to cut emissions in one half by 2030 and restore and protect nature, at the same time. But how does this apply to the developing world? The right to development is unquestionable, morally and also economically. But whilst those in rich and middle income countries received energy from fossil fuel sources that enabled their development, the situation that put us in is forcing us to think differently about providing clean, low carbon, and affordable energy to ensure societies that are bearing climate impacts the most harshly are also given an equal and equitable pathway to develop. So where do we begin to provide accessible, clean, affordable energy to all? What are the challenges, what are the benefits, how will this new fund support billions of people to live better lives - and how fast can it be achieved? Tune in to find out! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Links Mentioned in the Show: LISTEN: Check out our new Shortcast with Blinkist! — Thank you to our Guests this week! Rebekah Shirley Director of Research, Data & Innovation, World Resources Institute Africa Twitter Andrew Steer President & CEO, Bezos Earth Fund Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Rhajiv Shah President of the Rockefeller Foundation Twitter | Facebook | Instagram Rockefeller Foundation Twitter | Facebook | Instagram Per Heggenes CEO of the IKEA Foundation LinkedIn Ikea Foundation Facebook | Twitter | Instagram — Race to Zero Twitter | LinkedIn COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 3, 2021 • 35min
126. COP26! All Eyes on 1.5
The World Leaders Summit at COP26 has happened...So what happened, exactly? A LOT. This week, we cover it all in a laid-back-waiting-for-takeaway-to-arrive style conversation with our hosts. We’ll cover updated pledges and commitments on: An End to Deforestation by 2030 Methane reductions India’s Net Zero 2070 target We also get into inclusion and representation of the Global South, and how we went from 50% of global emissions covered by a Net Zero target at the beginning of this year, to yesterday it being 89%. So sit back, relax, and dig in! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Links Mentioned in the Show: READ: Vanessa Nakate for TIME READ: Beware: Gaia may destroy humans before we destroy the Earth by James Lovelock READ: The Case for Climate Reparations by David Wallace-Wells WATCH + READ: COP26 Must Keep 1.5 Degrees Celsius Goal Alive by UN Secretary-General António Guterres WATCH: Pope Francis says Costa Rican coffee “is the best in the world.” — Race to Zero Twitter | LinkedIn COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 2, 2021 • 52min
125. Banking on Net Zero with Noel Quinn
The way to Net Zero is through the bank. One of the major questions at COP26 is, “How are we going to finance the transition to Net Zero?” From shifting investments away from fossil fuels, to boosting the speed and scale of green companies bringing forward the necessary solutions to creating a sustainable future for people and planet. ...And profit. This week, we’re joined by Group Chief Executive of HSBC, Noel Quinn. He recently committed HSBC, with an impressive $3 trillion balance sheet, to have a completely Net Zero portfolio by 2050, and have their own supply chain and operations Net Zero by 2030. All the while significantly expanding their investment in green finance, creating a philanthropic program and clean technology venture fund. We are also joined this week by guest co-host Kelly Clark, Director of Finance & Capital Market Transformation at The Laudes Foundation. Her day job is reimagining our current economic system and redefining value to go beyond shareholder interest. It’s a fascinating conversation and essential to bring about the radical systems change we need to see. Join us! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Links Mentioned in the Show: LEARN: GFANZ WATCH: Livestream COP26 from anywhere READ: Noel Quinn’s letter on Net Zero — Thank you to our Guest & Guest Co-host this week! Noel Quinn Group Chief Executive | HSBC LinkedIn HSBC Website | Twitter Kelly Clark Director Finance & Capital Market Transformation | Laudes Foundation LinkedIn Laudes Foundation Twitter | Website — Race to Zero Twitter | LinkedIn COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 29, 2021 • 48min
124. We Need To Talk About China
China. On one hand, the country is the world’s largest source of carbon emissions, an economic and political powerhouse resting on a thick cloud of hydrocarbon pollution, contrary to the goals of the Paris Agreement. On the other hand, President Xi Jinping has set the stage for China to emerge as an environmental leader, with the highest reforestation rate in the world; it makes and buys more electric cars than any other country by far; and is the world’s top renewable energy investor for the eighth consecutive year, including manufacturing 80% of solar cells globally. It is clear that China has the power to determine whether we can limit global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees celsius. As we head into the COP26 international climate discussions, all eyes will be on the indomitable diplomatic skills of China and America’s special envoys for climate, Xie Xanhau and John Kerry, who brought about significant pact between the world’s two top polluters that significantly influenced the success of the Paris Agreement. This week we talk with Peggy Liu, a leading catalyst of a greener China and Former Prime Minister of Australia and President of the Asia Society, Kevin Rudd, who offers deep insight into China’s climate goals and trajectory of travel, gleaned over 35 years of working with the Chinese Government. Enjoy the show! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Thank you to our guests this week, Peggy Liu and Kevin Rudd! Peggy Liu Chair of JUCCCE, board member of Drawdown, Governor of Hillary Institute Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn JUCCCE Facebook | Twitter | YouTube | LinkedIn | Vimeo Kevin Rudd Former PM of Australia, President of the Asia Society. Twitter | Linktr.ee Asia Society Twitter | Asia Society Asia Society Policy Institute Twitter | — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 28, 2021 • 44min
123. Ramping Up for COP26! with Matthew Phillips
If you haven’t heard, COP26 is about to happen. This week we embrace the complexity that is a COP (Conference of the Parties), and try to frame what is going to happen in the next 2 weeks so we don’t lose focus on limiting global heating to 1.5C. We’re joined by Communications Director of COP25 & COP26 Climate Champions, Matthew Phillips. Matthew is inextricably linked with the process of COP26 and shares his wisdom and unique insight into what a successful COP26 looks like. So if you’re thinking about the logistical nightmares of COP26, what the Heads of State might say, how NDCs are going, or how inequities are being addressed at the COP this year, this conversation is for you. Stay til the end for a beautiful soundscape of children’s voices from Positive Imaginings. Enjoy! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Links Mentioned in the Show: WATCH: TED Countdown Learn More: Rowanbank Environmental & Arts Education LISTEN: Positive Imaginings Children’s Soundscape — Thank you to our Guest Co-host this week! Matthew Phillips Communications Director | Climate Champions Twitter High Level Climate Champions Twitter — Race to Zero Twitter | LinkedIn COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 27, 2021 • 28min
122. What The Hale?! Introducing the Net Zero Tracker with Thomas Hale
Tom Hale is BACK and here to announce the official Launch of the Net Zero Tracker! So yes - this week we have Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University, Tom Hale, who joined us back in March of this year discussing the launch of a report “Taking Stock of commitments to Net Zero”. That report put a spotlight on the credibility of a wave of government and business net zero commitments at the time. He is now returning more triumphant than ever with a significant update - The launch of a publicly available Net Zero Tracker! It’s a big deal. Our host, Paul Dickinson jumps in to ask, What the Hale IS the Net Zero Tracker? And how is it creating radical transparency that will lead to actually limiting global heating to 1.5C? In tandem with the Net Zero Tracker is a new release as well, The Net Zero Dashboard Codebook - Filled with terms to bring absolute clarity to Net Zero pledges, promises, and commitments...so what the Hale do all these terms mean? Stick around for our classic Lightning Round. The Race to Zero continues! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Links Mentioned in the Show: Net Zero Tracker UNEP Gap Report Oxford English Dictionary Climate Words Added NYT Visualization of Emissions Pre-Paris vs Current vs Pledged vs Necessary for 1.5C — Thank you to our guest this week! Thomas Hale Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University Twitter | Website Blavatnik School of Government Twitter Net Zero Tracker Twitter | Website — Race to Zero Twitter | LinkedIn COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 21, 2021 • 51min
121. Small Countries, Big Vision with Nicola Sturgeon
*inhales deeply* Fresh off the TED Countdown Stage and moments after the ‘Green Carpet’ at The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021 AND a week and a half away from COP26 - Has there ever been a more exciting moment? This week we give our first-hand experience at TED Countdown, discussing ‘the moment’ and what followed when Christiana was moderating a discussion on the TED stage about our theories of change with Ben van Beurden, Chris James and Lauren MacDonald. Also Christiana and Tom recall a few exciting moments from the Earthshot Prize Awards and the future investment in scaling these 5 award winning solutions to meet our rapidly approaching climate targets. In an incredible interview, our very special guest this week is First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon. We met her at her residence in Edinburgh to discuss this new vision she has for small countries collaborating on climate action, and the phenomenal TED Talk she had just delivered (ensured by a standing ovation). Tom says, “it was one of the best I’ve ever seen.” And in perfect harmony with this week’s subject- An amazing song this week from DIVEST - we hear them play ‘Something’s About to Change’. It’s really, really good. Enjoy the show! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Mentioned links from the episode: Absolutely Required Viewing: Decarbonizing fossil fuels: An unedited discussion from TED Countdown Summit Follow Up Read: Christiana Figueres reflects on the emotionally charged climate debate that riveted TED Watch: The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021 __ Thank you to our guest this week, Nicola Sturgeon! Nicola Sturgeon First Minister of Scotland Twitter Office of the First Minister Twitter Scottish Government Twitter Net Zero Scotland Twitter — The incredible DIVEST was is our musical guest this week DIVEST Facebook | Bandcamp | Instagram | Twitter Give them a follow and check out their new EP - Mercury Retrograde — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 14, 2021 • 51min
120. Taking Business Net Positive with Paul Polman & Andrew Winston
For the first time ever, we are all in-person bringing you this episode from the TED Countdown Summit in Edinburgh! TED Countdown is an event that officially kicked off on 12th October and encompasses four days of inspiring talks, collaboration, connections and commitments to meaningful action for a better world ahead of COP26. Our guest today is Paul Polman, return Outrage + Optimism guest and a celebrated business leader who made sustainability the heart of a global consumer business’ growth agenda in his former role as CEO of Unilever. He is joined by one of the most widely read, published and acclaimed writers on sustainability, Andrew Winston, to talk about the new book the two have co-authored, “Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take”. We unpack the ways the book re-frames how business can put a lasting end inequality and climate change. Can every business be Net Positive? Find out! Stick around for a track of epic proportions from musical guest, WACO. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Go buy Paul + Andrew’s new book: Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take TED Countdown! Blog (Day 2) | Twitter | Instagram Clay Recommends - Visualizing Climate Change: An Open Call For Photography __ Thank you to our guests this week, Paul Polman and Andrew Winston! Paul Polman Influencer, business leader, campaigner Twitter | LinkedIn Andrew Winston Writer, Adviser/Speaker on Megatrends & Sustainability, Consultant on Corporate Strategy Twitter | LinkedIn — Amazing music this week was from WACO! WACO Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Spotify You gotta see their punkishly cosmic music video for “A New Future” They have a physical copy of their latest record for sale out on Venn Records, made from leftover waste vinyl: “Hope Rituals” - Buy It! Sales will be donated to Beyond Gender - Please check out the work they are doing to create a fairer and safer society. — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 7, 2021 • 47min
119. Dealing with Climate Grief with Luisa Neubauer
Join climate activist Luisa Neubauer, renowned for her work with Fridays for Future, as she sheds light on the mental health impacts of climate change. The conversation highlights intense climate anxiety among youth, driven by fears for their future and the actions of previous generations. Luisa discusses the balance between despair and motivation for climate action. The episode also touches on successful climate advocacy in Germany and the Earthshot Prize's promising initiatives, leaving listeners with hope amidst the challenges.

Sep 30, 2021 • 46min
118. Protecting Our Planet with Cristián Samper
You probably heard last week was Climate Week and UNGA. But, what actually happened? To cover it all, we get into the cornucopia of methane reduction announcements from countries across the world, a quick update on China, and a special focus this week on the announcement of the ‘Protecting Our Planet Challenge’, an announcement that saw 9 philanthropic organisations, including the Bezos Earth Fund, collectively commit $5 billion of funds to the 30x30 campaign. We explore what this funding announcement means for the campaign, what effect this could have on government ambition and commitment to biodiversity as we gear up for COP26, and how this is a goal every single one of us can unite behind. Joining us this week is Cristián Samper, President and CEO of the Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS). Cristián played a key role in convening the 9 organizations to launch the Protecting Our Planet Challenge. It marks the largest-ever philanthropic commitment to nature conservation and a significant step in addressing the triple crisis that threatens our planet – climate change, nature loss and economic insecurity. Thanks for listening! Stick around ‘til the end for a live performance of 'Ocean' by special musical guest Palmaria! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Mentioned links from the episode: Go watch Global Citizen Live! Read the Sierra Club’s rundown of ‘Climate Night' — Thank you to our guest this week: Cristián Samper President and CEO | Wildlife Conservation Society Twitter Wildlife Conservation Society LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Website Bezos Earth Fund Website | Twitter | Instagram High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People (30x30 campaign) Website | Twitter — Amazing music this week was from Palmaria! Palmaria Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Website Listen to 'Ocean' Also, check out their live performance music video for ‘Ocean’! — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


