

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica and Global Optimism
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.As we approach the middle of the decisive decade for world emissions, and the 10 year anniversary of the Paris climate agreement, subscribe to Outrage + Optimism: The Climate PodcastAnd join us for our special Inside COP series with co-host Fiona McRaith where we bring you behind the scenes of COP30 in Belém! And to see video content from the show, follow us on LinkedIn, and Instagram. Got a question? Send us a voice message.This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Sep 24, 2021 • 28min
117. The Seeds Are Sown for a Food Revolution with Agnes Kalibata
Following the success of UN Food Systems Summit, or as it’s also known- “The People’s Summit” we get a chance to speak to the driving force behind it, UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy for the Food Systems Summit, Agnes Kalibata. Formerly Rwanda’s Minister of Agriculture and Animal Resources (MINAGRI) from 2008 to 2014, she drove programs that moved her country to food security helping to lift more than a million Rwandans out of poverty. Now as Special Envoy, her efforts toward progress of the delivery of the SDGs, and to prioritise Food Systems in the global conversation around climate change are coming to a 2 year culmination. Besides this summit being the first time the UN has called a summit dedicated to food systems, it is engaging more than 100,000 people from 147 countries through 900 independent multi-stakeholder dialogues on food system transformation. UN Summits are often mostly prepared statements by member states. This move to put people and dialogue at the center was a radical return to destroying our siloed thinking when it comes to global issues. The Food Revolution begins with a Thought Revolution, and people are at the heart of systemic change. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Check out Friday For Future’s #UprootTheSystem __ Thank you to our guests this week: Dr Agnes Kalibata UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy | 2021 Food Systems Summit Twitter | LinkedIn UN Food Systems Summit 2021 Facebook | Twitter | Website — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 23, 2021 • 1h 1min
116. Setting The Table for a Food Revolution
Welcome to the first episode in a brand new series on The Future of Food! Today, this episode coincides with a very important international gathering, the first of its kind at the United Nations. Known as the UN Food Systems Summit, formally, it is also called The People’s Summit. During this ongoing series we will seek to unlock the many changes needed to enable each sector – government, corporations and citizens to ask themselves, “How can we contribute to a transformative movement for an inclusive, regenerative and circular society where access to nutritious food is a right we actually realize for every single person?” But before we eat, we need to set the table. We’re joined on this episode by: Dr. David Nabarro Co-Director | Imperial College of London Institute of Global Health Innovation Senior Advisor | Food Systems Summit Dialogues Strategic Director | 4SD Switzerland Special Envoy of WHO Director General for COVID19 Johan Rockström Director | Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research Dr. Gunhild A Stordalen Founder & Executive Chair | EAT These incredible guests help us explore in-depth the challenges and opportunities our current food system faces, and show us why getting food right might just be the key to unlocking our path to achieving our 2030 goals. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Global Citizen is streaming a 24 hour concert live from Central Park on Saturday, Sept 25 Watch BTS do their thing at UNGA The 500-foot Sea Creature will be scaling the UN Facade this week Fridays For Future is hosting a Climate Strike on Friday, Sept 24. Find your local strike here Be sure to catch up on Climate Night which aired Live on Sept. 22 __ Thank you to our guests this week: UN Food Systems Summit Website | Twitter Dr David Nabarro Co-Director | Imperial College of London Institute of Global Health Innovation Senior Advisor | Food Systems Summit Dialogues Strategic Director | 4SD Switzerland Special Envoy of WHO Director General for COVID19 Twitter 4SD Website | Twitter | Facebook Johan Rockström Director | Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research Twitter Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research (PIK) Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn Dr Gunhild A Stordalen Founder & Executive Chair | EAT Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn EAT Foundation Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 21, 2021 • 27min
115. Turning Around in a Storm with David Shukman
Our struggle with the Climate Crisis begins with naming it, facing it, and engaging it. Last week, the latest NDC Synthesis Report published showed that global emissions are on track to rise by 16% by 2030. With science screaming at the top of its lungs to get us to cut emissions 50% by 2030 to avoid catastrophic warming and climate tipping points, this 16% number says unequivocally, “we are headed in the wrong direction” as BBC Science Editor David Shukman tells us on today’s episode. So that’s where we’re at. How do we face this moment with stubborn optimism? Tom dials up David to wrestle with the reality of how short our NDCs are of achieving the Paris Goals, and what mindset and ambition it will take to get our world’s biggest emitters to transparently confront this issue and reverse the course of rising emissions. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Links mentioned in the episode: NDC Synthesis Report Climate change: UN warning over nations' climate plans - David Shukman Young People's Voices on Climate Anxiety, Government Betrayal and Moral Injury: A Global Phenomenon — Thanks to our guest this week: David Shukman Science Editor | BBC News Twitter — Join the conversation online: Christiana Figueres Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 16, 2021 • 37min
114. 30x30: Nature Needs More with Rita El Zaghloul
Today, only 15 percent of land and 7 percent of our ocean are protected. Nature needs more. The science is very clear – to prevent a mass extinction crisis, support a growing global population, and address climate change, we must conserve at least 30% of the planet by 2030. ...So why now? The science is very, very clear - If we act now we can limit the disaster, and we could even reverse the trends of climate change in an equitable, just fashion. But how? This week we’re joined by Rita El Zaghloul, Coordinator of the High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People on behalf of Costa Rica. She is the driving force behind ambition at The HAC’s 30x30 campaign, slamming the pedal to the metal on their aim to agree to this plan at the COP15 Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) in October. The best part about it? It centers indigenous leadership and indigenous rights, while mobilizing financial resources both publicly and privately to ensure protected areas are properly managed, all the while protecting at least 30% of the planet by 2030; We know our situation is dire. But we also know it’s going to take everything (aka Nature) and everyone (aka People) to keep us below 1.5 degrees. The HAC’s 30x30 campaign is one of the roadmaps there. Nature is counting on us. What future will we choose? — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Our Guest This Week: Rita El Zaghloul Coordinator of the High Ambition Coalition for Nature & People on behalf of Costa Rica Twitter | LinkedIn High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People Website | Twitter — Musical Guest This week: Mr Bruce Instagram | YouTube You need to watch Mr Bruce’s BRAND NEW video for I Am Disaster Sign the petition to recognize the legal status of climate refugees. — Join the conversation online: Christiana Figueres Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 9, 2021 • 30min
113. Time's Up! We Need Everyone to Fight for 1.5
Season 4 is here! The past few months have been astonishing. It’s no news to anyone that climate change is here, right now. In fact, it’s reported by the Washington Post that in the US, nearly 1 in 3 people live in a county hit by a weather disaster in the past three months, and even more terrifying, 2 out of 3 live in a place that experienced a multi-day heatwave. Time is up. We can’t squabble and scapegoat ourselves into a better future. Let’s swallow the alarm clock and take action on climate! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Nearly 1 in 3 Americans experienced a weather disaster this summer - Washington Post — Join the conversation online: Christiana Figueres Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 10, 2021 • 31min
BONUS: IPCC Report: The Tipping Point for Action with Michael E. Mann
We’re back in your ears for a quick bonus episode on the latest IPCC Report. The heavily anticipated and undeniably influential release of the IPCC’s Sixth Assessment Report’s Working Group 1 findings came out on Monday. In it, they provide an extraordinarily thorough examination into and warning of the physical science basis of climate change. Christiana and the guys give their gut reactions to the report, and discuss how its findings are the turning point for necessary climate action at COP26. And joining us for this bonus episode to walk us through the release of this report is Distinguished Professor and Director of the Earth System Science Centre at Penn State University, Michael E. Mann, who has previously contributed as a lead author of the IPCC third cycle assessments. This is the moment, there’s no going back. Thanks for listening. — We’re planning Season 4 of Outrage + Optimism and we need your views! Give us your opinions in our short survey here to help us make it our strongest season yet. Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Read: The Full WG1 AR6 IPCC Report (Caution: It’s like 1000+ pages) Much Easier Read: The Headlines from The WG1 AR6 IPCC Report (2 pages) Watch: Check out the IPCC’s YouTube Channel Play: The IPCC Interactive Atlas __ Thank you to our guest this week, Michael E. Mann! Michael E. Mann Distinguished Professor and Director of the Earth System Science Center | Penn State University Twitter | Instagram | Website Check our Michael E. Mann’s latest book, ‘The New Climate War’ IPCC Social Media & links Twitter | Instagram | Website | Facebook — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 31, 2021 • 1h 7min
112. The Nature of Nature: Why We Need The Wild with Enric Sala
This week, we take an unflinching look at the impacts of the recent extreme global weather events as they provide a grim backdrop to the G20 meeting in Naples, the informal meeting of ministers representing 51 countries in London at the weekend, and the IPCC summary report by Working Group 1. This highly anticipated report is set to provide the up-to-the-moment science on future warming and future effects of warming. It’s a big deal, especially with of COP26 right around the corner. So, with the lack of consensus on ending fossil fuels subsidies and phasing out coal among the G20 delegates and environmental ministers in London, combined with the anticipated stark report due from the IPCC, leads us to ask: how much more devastation can we suffer before climate change is recognised for the existential threat it poses? Our guest this week Enric Sala, National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence, and founder of National Geographic Pristine Seas. He brings us the optimism on protecting our marine life, and how we can avoid mass biodiversity loss and depletion of our fish stock and prevent further catastrophes to human and natural communities, if we act now on 30x30. And later on in the episode, join us for Elle L’s debut avant-pop track, “Hoping”. Thanks for joining us! — We’re planning Season 4 of Outrage + Optimism and we need your views! Give us your opinions in our short survey here to help us make it our strongest season yet. Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Check out The Dasgupta Report that was issued to help inform governments and business leaders to account for the value of nature’s ecosystem. __ Thank you to our guest this week, Enric Sala! Enric Sala National Geographic Explorer in Residence | National Geographic Pristine Seas Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn National Geographic Pristine SeasWebsite | Twitter | Instagram Go check out Enric’s latest books here __ Our artist this week is Elle L! Instagram | Twitter Check out the music video for ‘Hoping’ — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 22, 2021 • 59min
111. New Systems and New Power with Dame Ellen MacArthur & Guest Co-Host Catherine Howarth
This week, The Circular Economy! Currently our economy operates in a linear way. Take, Make, Dispose. It’s based on the industrial revolution, and we know this way of doing things has limits. Some of those limits we are reaching even today. But there’s a different economy we could create. The Circular Economy. This week we explore the ‘Circular Economy’ with #1 Circular Economy advocate, Dame Ellen MacArthur. This brand new economy is all about designing out waste and pollution, keeping products and materials in use, and regenerating natural systems. It incentivizes manufacturers to create and maintain better products, stops the Global North from polluting the Global South, and has the potential to regenerate wildlife and ecosystems that are on the brink of collapsing. And with Christiana and Tom out this week, we invite special guest co-host, Catherine Howarth, CEO of Share Action, to discuss what it will take to encourage regenerative economic practices? Are we at a tipping point right now? Is a green, equitable, regenerative global society finally close to our grasp? And later on in the episode, join us for a soulful acoustic performance of “What Can I Do?” by Rachel Sermanni. Thanks for joining us! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Universal Ownership by Ellen Quigley Tax Pollution, Not People with Ex’Tax __ Thank you to our guest this week, Dame Ellen Macarthur! Dame Ellen MacArthur Founder and Chair of Trustees | Ellen MacArthur Foundation Twitter Ellen MacArthur Foundation Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn __ Our artist this week is Rachel Sermanni! Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Spotify | Website Live in Bristol or Sheffield? Go See Rachel LIVE Check out her rad music video for “What Can I Do” — Thank you to our Guest Co-host, Catherine Howarth! Catherine Howarth Chief Executive | ShareAction Twitter | LinkedIn ShareAction Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Instagram | Website — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 15, 2021 • 1h 1min
110. Building Leaderful Movements with Katie Eder & Guest Co-host Alice Garton
In a week that has seen record temperatures occurring throughout the Pacific Northwest of the United States and Canada, a major hurricane that hit Barbados - the first in 60 years - and one of the warmest winters on record down south in New Zealand, this episode looks at the urgent call to action coming from the younger generation. Their call for transformational change applies not only to climate action, but in delivering meaningful social justice action and revaluating and redefining the very notion of leadership itself. Our special guest this week is Katie Eder, Climate Organizer at Future Coalition. She eloquently describes for us the foundational goal of equity that is at the heart of the youth movement. and how she believes transformational change begins with ‘a leaderful movement’, and is the way to securing climate and social justice goals. Spoiler Alert: This is the secret to the success of the Paris Agreement. Paul is joined this week by guest co-host, Alice Garton, Legal Director for the Foundation for International Law for the Environment. Alice talks through some climate optimism in regards to recent Australian judicial rulings, as well as an optimistic take on the recent Royal Dutch Shell ruling in the Netherlands. And later on in the episode, join us for a great acoustic performance of “The Woman Who Planted Trees” by Emily Barker. Thanks for joining us! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise Click here to listen to our previous episode with Wanjira Mathai __ Links mentioned in the episode: Read: Reason, Rationality and Fiduciary Duty by Steve Lydenberg __ Thank you to our guest this week, Katie Eder! Katie Eder Climate Organizer, Future Coalition Instagram Future Coalition Website | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook __ Our artist this week is Emily Barker! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | Website Check out her latest EP, “Machine” — Thank you to our Guest Co-host, Alice Garton! Alice Garton Director Global Legal Strategy, FILE Twitter | LinkedIn FILE Foundation Website Facts and figures on climate litigation: LSE Grantham Global Trends on on Climate Litigation 2021 Links for lawyers and law students looking to use the law to progress the climate transition: Law Students for Climate Accountability Net Zero Lawyers Alliance The Chancery Lane Project PILNET A4ID Links for citizens looking to participate in climate litigation: Urgenda Global Climate Litigation Holding Your Government’s Accountable for Climate Change Climate Litigation Guide Australian SHARMA case: Equity Generation Lawyers Fiduciary Duty: Primer on Climate Change: Directors Duties ACCR commentary on Shell Transition Plan What citizens Can Do: Wiki Page — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 8, 2021 • 1h 11min
109. The Race to Resilience!
The Race to Resilience is on! This week has seen another extremely harsh wildfire season and searing temperatures in the global North, Tropical Storm Elsa ripped through the Caribbean, becoming the first hurricane to hit Barbados in 60 years, and way down in the south of the planet, New Zealand has its hottest winter. It is absolutely vital that the Race to Zero (emissions) and an equally important set of measures for adaptation and resilience be undertaken - at the same time - to allow humanity to thrive in the near and distant future. So what exactly is the Race to Resilience? Join Christiana, Tom and Paul as we explore the links between tackling climate change, protecting and enhancing biodiversity, ensuring ocean health and changing how we use land. Among a few other notable guests, we talk to two city leaders building resilience in two very different communities, addressing local challenges and bringing thousands of citizens together to tackle climate change. This week you’ll hear from: Elizabeth Mrema, UN Assistant Secretary-General and Executive Secretary of the Convention on Biological Diversity Anne-Marie Trevelyan, COP 26 International Champion for Adaptation and Resilience, and UK Energy and Climate Change Minister Enric Sala, National Geographic Explorer in Residence, National Geographic Pristine Seas Mayor Kate Gallego, Mayor of Phoenix, Arizona and Mayor Mohammed Sowah, Mayor of Accra, Ghana We are racing against time - and rather than allowing fear to paralyse us, let’s use this energy to fuel our spirit and determination. Hit play for your weekly dose of outrage - and stubborn optimism. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise PBS Learning Media melted our hearts with a beautiful film The Age of Nature Join the Race to Zero Learn more about C40 cities Click here to listen to the previous episodes of our The Race to Zero Series — Thank you to our guests this week: Elizabeth Mrema UN Assistant Secretary-General and Executive Secretary of the Convention on Biological Diversity Twitter UN Biodiversity Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Instagram Anne-Marie Trevelyan COP 26 International Champion for Adaptation and Resilience, and UK Energy and Climate Change Minister Twitter COP 26 Twitter Enric Sala National Geographic Explorer in Residence, National Geographic Pristine Seas Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram NG Pristine SeasWebsite | Twitter | Instagram Mayor Kate Gallego Mayor of Phoenix, Arizona Twitter | Facebook | Instagram Mayor Mohammed Sowah Mayor of Accra, Ghana Twitter — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


