

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica and Global Optimism
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.As we approach the middle of the decisive decade for world emissions, and the 10 year anniversary of the Paris climate agreement, subscribe to Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast And to see video content from the show, follow us on LinkedIn, on Instagram and X.Got a question? Send us a voice message.This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jun 10, 2021 • 58min
105. Why Dale Vince is a Successful Serial Climate Entrepreneur
With the G7 Summit happening in just a few days, things are looking good for it being a big moment for climate. Foreign Ministers have noted the impact of climate change on the most vulnerable, Health Ministers have made the link between health and the environment, Finance Ministers have supported mandating climate related disclosures...the momentum is real. But we’ve been here before with the same words and no action, so what is different this time around? Later on in the episode we speak with serial climate entrepreneur, Dale Vince. Dale is a tireless force of nature. So far he’s founded a successful Green Energy company, Ecotricity; he’s Chairman of Forest Green Rovers, the world’s first all vegan, carbon neutral football team; and his company Skydiamond makes precious gems from carbon capture. We hear what underlies Dale's motivation and how his determined, stubborn optimism has made his ventures successful in demonstrating what we can still do to solve challenges posed by the climate crisis. And...is there a possible future for him in politics? And finally, we hear a stirring spoken word piece titled, “Air” by Mel Chanté. Thanks for joining us! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Watch Breaking Boundaries on Netflix. Do it! Sign up for our newsletter to be informed on the details for our upcoming Breaking Boundaries LIVE Event! __ Thank you to our guest this week, Dale Vince! Dale Vince Environmentalist and Businessman | Founder of Ecotricity | Chairman of Forest Green Rovers Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Ecotricity Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Forest Green Rovers Twitter | Instagram | Facebook __ Our artist this week is Mel Chanté! Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Youtube Subscribe to her podcast, “The Daily Shine” Check out her latest EP, “FLO” — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson! LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 4, 2021 • 45min
BONUS: Richard Curtis, Amina Mohammed, Mark Carney, Christiana Figueres and More On Making Your Pension Clean Up
This week, a bonus! Our own Christiana Figueres spoke at the Net Zero Pensions Summit, hosted by Richard Curtis, the famous filmmaker and co-founder of Make My Money Matter, an organization elevating the voices of citizens to demand that pension funds invest in line with the values of their members. In this episode you’ll hear from: Richard Curtis Filmmaker | Co-Founder of Make My Money Matter Alok Sharma MP COP26 President Designate Mary Robinson Chair of The Elders | Former President of Ireland | Former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Amina Mohammed Deputy Secretary-General of the United Nations Nigel Topping High-Level Climate Action Champion for COP26 Mark Carney UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance This bonus episode gives you a flavour of the Net Zero Pensions Summit, and we hope it will propel you to take a step and logging it on CountUsIn.org. Enjoy! — As an individual, join the movement demanding Net Zero Pensions here: https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk/net-zero/ If you can represent a business, be a Net Zero Hero and please sign the Green Pensions Charter here: https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk/charter/ — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 3, 2021 • 1h 21min
104. Big Hits to Big Oil & Adam Gardner on a Music Climate Revolution
This week, we talk about the absolute shake up of a week Big Oil had, and a Music Climate Revolution that starts TODAY. First up, a shareholder vote to add three new members to the Exxon board succeeded as part of a strategy by activist hedge fund Engine No. 1 to address the twin concerns of climate change and Exxon’s poor financial performance. One of the new board members is our good friend, Andy Karsner! He joins us at the top of the episode for a quick update on what these seats at the table mean for the Oil and Gas industry moving forward, but especially for humanity and the climate. Second, the unprecedented ruling by a Dutch Court which ordered Royal Dutch Shell to cut its carbon emissions by 45 percent from 2019 levels by 2030 happened. To give us an incredibly exciting executive summary is Lead Campaigner of the case against Shell, Friend of The Earth’s Nine de Pater. And finally for our main interview, we are joined by Co-Founder and Co-Director of Reverb, Adam Gardner, who is also the vocalist and guitarist of the band, Guster.. From intention to action, he expresses the work that Reverb has been doing over the last 18 years to disrupt industry norms and increase the climate positive impact of the music touring industry. Acknowledging the unprecedented influence and reach that musicians have at their disposal, Adam, the newest stubborn optimist recruit, explains how environmentalism can be united with fans’ passion to drive positive change and achieve meaningful environmental, social justice and community gains. And this week for music, we have the privilege of spinning the famous “Satellite” by Guster. Join us, won’t you? — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Watch the Trailer for Breaking Boundaries on YouTube Watch Breaking Boundaries on Netflix __ Thank you to our guest this week, Adam Gardner! Adam Gardner Co-Founder and Co-Director of Reverb | Vocalist and Guitarist for Guster Reverb Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram __ A special thank you to Andy Karsner and Nine de Pater Alexander “Andy” Karsner Board of Directors | ExxonMobil Twitter Nine de Pater Lead Campaigner | Friends of The Earth Twitter __ Our musical guest this week is Guster! Spotify | Apple Music | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website Get your tickets to Guster: On The Rocks This is Clay’s favorite Guster Song: “One Man Wrecking Machine” — Check out the song by Moondog that Paul mentioned: Enough About Human Rights — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson! LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 27, 2021 • 1h 10min
103. Building a Movement to Fight a System with Jerome Foster II
On the back of the IEA report last week that shook the oil and gas industry, the G7 this week pledged not only to limit global warming to 1.5C, but to stop all new financing for overseas coal projects by the end of this year! An absolute breakthrough for the climate. We get into the geopolitics behind the G7 announcement and what it’s going to take to close the remaining 20+ GtCO2 gap left even after China and the US NDCs. And our guest this week is championing and informing the policy behind climate and racial justice in the United States and beyond. After striking every Friday for 58 weeks in a row outside of the White House as part of the ‘School Strike for Climate’ movement, On March 29th 2021, Jerome Foster II was appointed the youngest ever member of the White House Environmental Justice Advisory Council. We talk with him about how young people are experiencing and meeting the massive social and political changes happening, and hear more about his vision for bringing about justice through US climate policy. Stick around to the end of the episode for a live performance of “Justice” from Alfred Nomad! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Watch the Trailer for Breaking Boundaries on YouTube Watch Breaking Boundaries on Netflix __ Thank you to our guest this week, Jerome Foster II! Jerome Foster II Environmental Justice Advisory Council Member to the White House | Climate Justice Activist | Founder and Executive Director of One Million Of Us, Climate Reporter Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn Check out his organization One Million of Us Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube You need to watch Jerome in this piece by Initiative29 on Hulu __ Our musical guest this week is Alfred Nomad! Spotify | Bandcamp | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook Tap through to donate to the “Everything Will Be Alright” Initiative — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson! LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 20, 2021 • 1h 19min
102. Cooling Conflict by Tackling the Climate Crisis with Jens Stoltenberg
This week on the show we discuss the latest IEA Report, “Net Zero by 2050” which charts a path for the energy sector to achieve a 1.5 degree world, and specifically naming the 400 milestones that will get us there. It’s an incredible marker in this decisive decade because the IEA is the gold standard for energy policy around the globe (particularly for Oil and Gas), and in this report they explicitly detail the urgent and irreversible need for a rapid and comprehensive shift away from fossil fuels. And later on, an O+O first. We get into the connection between national security and climate change with our special guest, Jens Stoltenberg, Secretary General of NATO. With his extensive career history, notably serving twice as Prime Minister of Norway and as UN Special Envoy on Climate Change, he has uniquely straddled both worlds of environmentalism and national security. We unpack how SG Stoltenberg views a military response to the climate crisis as NATO fulfilling it’s duty to secure today and tomorrow for its citizens. Stick around to the end this week for a catchy tune from Milky Chance. Join us! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Watch the Trailer for Breaking Boundaries on YouTube Watch Breaking Boundaries on Netflix __ Thank you to our guest this week, Jens Stoltenberg! Jens Stoltenberg Secretary General of NATO Twitter | Facebook | Instagram NATO Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Linkedin __ Our musical guest this week is Milky Chance! Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube Catch Milky Chance on Tour “Stolen Dance” Music Video — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson! LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 13, 2021 • 1h 16min
101. A Fund for the Earth with Andrew Steer
This week, the Nature Agenda. A forest the size of France has regrown since 2000 and The Biden administration introduced its “America the Beautiful” plan. In it, they plan to conserve 30 percent of the nation’s land and water by 2030, calling it the country’s first-ever national conservation goal. Long overdue, but on the table. Speaking of nature, later in the episode we discuss the role philanthropy can play in accelerating innovative actions and radical collaboration across movements to meet the impact of the climate crisis with the requisite attention. ‘A Fund for the Earth’ as it were. We invite Dr. Andrew Steer, formerly President and CEO of the World Resources Institute, and as of April 2021, the CEO and President of the Bezos Earth Fund, to talk us through the opportunities and challenges ahead for philanthropy as we begin to make the systemic transition to a green economy. We ask how he will be looking to spend his whopping $10 Billion (with a B) budget to secure the SDGs by 2030 and create the biggest impact to accelerate various sectors towards their positive tipping points. And an absolute smash this week in music from Marie Spaemann. Listen in! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Watch the Trailer for Breaking Boundaries Watch Breaking Boundaries on Netflix __ Thank you to our guest this week, Andrew Steer! Andrew Steer President & CEO, Bezos Earth Fund Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn __ Our musical guest this week is Marie Spaemann! Instagram | Facebook | Website | YouTube Stream and buy her music! Tap in to watch the live performance of ‘Oscar’s Dream’ — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson! LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 7, 2021 • 25min
BONUS: Outrage + Optimism is 100 Episodes Strong! with Christiana, Tom and Paul
Outrage + Optimism is celebrating 100 episodes! In this episode, we reminisce about our humble beginnings as a podcast and celebrate some memories made along the way. Not only are we celebrating 100 episodes but we also are turning 2 as a podcast! Yes! So pour yourself a drink, light a candle, and join us for a moment together as we glance back and focus forward. And! Dreams do come true because Paul Dickinson is our musical guest this week. You won’t want to miss. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 6, 2021 • 1h 7min
100. Financing The Race to Zero!
Welcome to the third episode of our Race To Zero series! In this episode, we show you the money. Finance is an absolutely crucial factor in accelerating our world towards a Net-Zero future, and with less than 9 years left to halve our global emissions and current investments and markets spiraling towards catastrophic risk, it’s going to take every financial lever we have to shift the global economy to a sustainable, equitable, and just system. On topics of investment, divestment, engagement, and tropical carbon pricing, you’ll hear from: Mark Carney, UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and Prime Minister Johnson’s Finance Adviser for COP26 Amal-Lee Amin, Director of Climate Change at CDC and Senior Advisor to the UK COP26 Unit Thomas Di Napoli, New York State Comptroller Carlos Manuel Rodriguez, CEO and Chairperson of the Global Environment Facility Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director, IMF And of course our good friend, Nigel Topping, High Level Climate Action Champion for COP26 The race is on! Buckle up and hit play. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Thank you to our guests this week! Mark Carney UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and Prime Minister Johnson’s Finance Adviser for COP26 Twitter | LinkedIn — Amal-Lee Amin Director of Climate Change at CDC and Senior Advisor to the UK COP26 Unit Twitter | LinkedIn CDC Twitter | LinkedIn — Thomas Di Napoli New York State Comptroller Twitter | Facebook | Instagram — Kristalina Georgieva Managing Director, IMF Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Instagram The IMF Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Instagram — Carlos Manuel Rodriguez CEO and Chairperson of the Global Environment Facility Twitter The GEF Twitter — Nigel Topping High Level Climate Action Champion for COP26 Twitter l LinkedIn | Instagram Race to Zero Twitter | LinkedIn COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 29, 2021 • 1h 5min
99. Hope Is a Verb with Fred Krupp
With the Biden U.S. Climate Summit barely in the rearview mirror, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson unpack what this moment means for global leadership, ambition, and the gaps in the road ahead for the climate movement. The new U.S. NDC of 50% GHG reductions by 2030 sets the stage for the rest of the decade, so what is next? And our interview this week is with Fred Krupp, long-serving President of the Environmental Defence Fund (EDF). We discuss one of the most pressing and, until now, overlooked issues of methane leakage and emissions, and their wildly powerful short-term warming potential. EDF is launching a satellite soon that will track methane emissions around the world to keep us all accountable. Amazing. We also celebrate the announcement at the Biden summit of the launch of the LEAF Coalition, a project that the EDF is partnering in with both private sector and government participation, and the impact this private and public partnership will have on tackling the stubborn challenge of tropical deforestation on a meaningful scale. And be sure to hang around for a live performance from ViVii of their song ‘One Day’! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Thank you to our guest this week, Fred Krupp! Fred Krupp President of Environmental Defense Fund Twitter | LinkedIn Environmental Defense Fund Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn __ Our musical guest this week is ViVii! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Soundcloud Their album “Mondays” is dropping May 21st! Click Here to Pre-save the album Tap in to watch the live performance of ‘One Day’ — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 22, 2021 • 1h 3min
98. 100% Outrage and 100% Optimism with John Kerry
Happy 51st Earth Day, everyone! Today marks the first U.S. Earth Day Summit convened by President Joe Biden with the aim to strengthen climate ambition among invited world leaders ahead of the COP26 meeting in Glasgow in November. And while the global community anticipates the details of the U.S’s own NDC announcement expected shortly before or at the summit itself, we speak to John Kerry in his role as Special Presidential Envoy for Climate, about his recent deployment overseas to meet delegates and colleagues ahead of the summit to discuss climate ambition and the urgent need for even more ambitious targets to be pledged in this most decisive decade. And just before the interview, we bring the latest in climate news this week. We discuss the latest IEA report citing carbon dioxide emissions are forecast to jump this year by the second biggest annual rise in history, the UK’s Prime minister, Boris Johnson, pledging to reduce emissions 78 percent by 2035 compared to 1990 levels, and the U.S. Treasury appointing a climate counsellor, John Morton, to coordinate the efforts of a new climate hub focused on leveraging finance to confront the threat of climate change. Plus, we discuss the ratification of the Kigali Amendment to the Montreal Protocol. It’s a busy Earth Day! Join in with us and listen! And be sure to hang around after the interview for a musical treat from rock n’ soul legend-in-the-making, Aaron Frazer! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Thank you to our guest this week, John Kerry! John Kerry U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate Twitter __ Our musical guest this week is Aaron Frazer! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | Spotify Check out Aaron Frazer + Sierra Club - SolNation SolNation has a Summit happening April 22-24 - Register Here — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! LinkedIn — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.