

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica and Global Optimism
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.As we approach the middle of the decisive decade for world emissions, and the 10 year anniversary of the Paris climate agreement, subscribe to Outrage + Optimism: The Climate PodcastAnd join us for our special Inside COP series with co-host Fiona McRaith where we bring you behind the scenes of COP30 in Belém! And to see video content from the show, follow us on LinkedIn, and Instagram. Got a question? Send us a voice message.This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 6, 2022 • 41min
147. IPCC Report: It's Not Too Late to Mitigate with Ko Barrett
The World’s scientists have come together on behalf of the web of life to deliver the most comprehensive review of how we can mitigate the effects of climate change. So what’s in this latest IPCC report? The latest from Working Group III covers a broad spectrum of topics: from mitigation pathways and in-depth sectoral analysis to finance, international cooperation, net-zero and carbon dioxide removal… Let’s simplify that - Mitigation. This report lays out how we’re going to mitigate the effects of climate change. Because make no mistake, climate change is here and gaining speed. It’s up to us to listen to the scientists and follow their guidance to slow it down. So, here to guide us through this new report is Ko Barrett, Vice Chair, IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) and Senior Advisor for Climate, NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). Ko is widely recognized as an expert on climate policy, particularly on issues related to climate impacts and strategies to help society adapt to a changing world. Not only was she one of the first women elected to serve as a vice chair of the IPCC in 2015, but she oversaw this latest report, gracefully and skillfully convening the global scientific consensus on this crucial report on Climate Change. An incredible achievement. This report informs business leaders, policy makers, activists, influencers, artists…everybody. Listen in to hear what makes this report unique, how to avoid doomism on climate, and what it’s going to take to get to a livable future. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode: READ: WG3 AR6 IPCC Report — Thanks to our guest this week, Ko Barrett! Ko Barrett Vice Chair | IPCC Senior Advisor for Climate | NOAA Twitter IPCC Twitter | Instagram | Facebook NOAA Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook — Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 30, 2022 • 35min
146. Together We Can Change the World with Jane Goodall
What do you get when you swap the office for a classroom and our hosts for school pupils? An incredibly special episode, we hope you’ll agree. Yes, that’s right – this week’s conversation is brought to you from Totnes Progressive School, where the children were joined by an extraordinary guest: Dr Jane Goodall DBE, Founder of the Jane Goodall Institute and United Nations Messenger of Peace. With the support of Outrage + Optimism’s Tom Rivett-Carnac and his sister Bee, who together wrote and illustrated a children’s book voiced by Dr Goodall, the pupils take it in turns to ask about their guest’s experiences, work, and thoughts on the future. From Dr Goodall’s memories of her own childhood to reflections on what children now can do to help in healing our planet, this is a moving lens on a remarkable life spanning nearly nine decades. Dr Goodall shares lessons from her mother about working hard and not giving up on dreams, as well as how together we can – and will – change the world. We hope you find this conversation as inspirational as we do. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode: READ: When We All Stopped LISTEN: When We All Stopped narrated by Dr Jane Goodall — Thank you to our amazing guest this week, Dr Jane Goodall DBE! Jane Goodall Institute UK: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Roots & Shoots UK: Facebook — Keep up with Christiana Figueres Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 24, 2022 • 1h 9min
145. Africa: A View From The Frontlines of Climate Justice and Gender Equality with Vanessa Nakate
For years in the Global North, our dialogue around climate change has been focused on the idea that it is a looming disaster with consequences that would happen in the future if we did not take immediate action. The recent years of extreme weather events where we saw flooding in Germany and London and heat waves and storms across Europe and the United States, brought the reality home that climate change was happening NOW. But for those living in Africa and the Global South, this ‘looming disaster’ has been a reality for decades. While the devastation, droughts, famines, wars over life-sustaining resources and refugee crises that climate change has caused might not make the headlines in the Global North the way Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has, the impacts of climate change on these frontline communities is nonetheless devastating and requires attention and action NOW. Which is why this week we invited one of the incredible female voices from the frontline of the climate crisis in Uganda, Vanessa Nakate, an activist and founder of the Rise Up! Movement, onto the O+O podcast so we could share her concerns and action points first hand with our listeners. In this intimate, in-depth interview with Christiana, Vanessa shares her journey from Ugandan school girl to world renowned climate activist. She tells us about her passion for gender equality and why she believes it is synonymous with bringing the climate crisis to justice, and why Loss and Damage must stay on the agenda for COP27, touted by many as The African COP. Keep your ears open because Vanessa gives a clear call to action to any listeners who want to help African activists get their voices heard during COP 27. Vanessa asks that businesses, organizations and individuals consider supporting African activists either through providing accreditation for COP27 or through funding. If you can help please reach out via social media to Vanessa directly or via the Rise UP Movement’s website. And stick around until the end of the episode to hear the soul-stirring Ugandan musical artist Afrie perform her single, “Let Her Know”. Enjoy the show! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode: DONATE: Vanessa’s Solar and Stove Project ACT: Fridays For Future’s 4 Digital Strike Actions WATCH: Vanessa Nakate asks Global North Ministers the “Thumbs Up” Question READ: A 10-Point Plan to Reduce the European Union’s Reliance on Russian Natural Gas READ: Christiana pens an alternative ending to ‘Don’t Look Up’ for Netflix — Thanks to our guest this week, Vanessa Nakate! Vanessa Nakate Climate Justice Activist | Founder of Rise Up Movement Twitter | Instagram Rise Up Movement Twitter | Instagram | Website BUY THE BOOK: A Bigger Picture by Vanessa Nakate — Our musical guest this week is Afrie! Afrie Instagram | YouTube | Website | YouTube — Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 14, 2022 • 40min
144. Conflict Fueling Outrage: It’s Time to Quit Fossil Fuels
As the news from Ukraine unfolds quickly, detailing the tragedy Ukrainian citizens are living through, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson cut straight to the roots of what is fueling this conflict - Our global addiction to fossil fuels. What is our response as a global community to this crisis and many other current violent crises when many will argue climate action isn’t affordable and we should ramp up independent oil and gas production? Will we gather ourselves around the moral clarity that we need to end the violence by breaking our addiction once and for all? Because our addiction is fueling the conflict we are watching our neighbors and our neighbor’s children suffer. It’s time to quit. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode: WATCH: Ukraine Video Showing Mock Footage of Paris Air Attacks READ: China, Russia Agree to 30-Year Gas Deal via New Pipeline — Keep up with Christiana Figueres online Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 10, 2022 • 1h 11min
143. An Appetite for Adaptation
Welcome back to our series on the Future of Food! In this episode, we’ll explore the significance of adaptive transformation in global food systems. How do farming and consumption play into creating an inclusive, just, and beautiful future? From empowering women farmers in Africa, to telling the story behind every piece of organic produce, from considering food value over food price, to what to ask at your grocery store, we examine why urgent transformation is needed to protect the people – and land – growing our food against the increasingly devastating impacts of climate change. You’ll hear from: Wanjira Mathai | Vice President + Regional Director for Africa, World Resources Institute Volkert Engelsman | Founder + CEO, Eosta Jenipher Sambazi | Coffee Farmer + Vice Chair, Mount Elgon Agroforestry Community Cooperative Enterprise Elen Jones | Co-Founder + Director, Jenipher's Coffi Ed Davey | Policy + International Engagement Director, Food and Land Use Coalition + Co-Director, WRI UK Helena Leurent | Director General, Consumers International So with food being at the heart and centre of the human story, there’s not a minute to waste. Let’s get on with it! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode: MORE LISTENING: Outrage + Optimism’s previous episodes on The Future of Food READ: What is Plum Village? — Thank you to our amazing guests this week, Volkert Engelsman, Wanjira Mathai, Jenipher Sambazi, Elen Jones, Ed Davey and Helena Leurent! Volkert Engelsman Founder and CEO, Eosta LinkedIn Eosta LinkedIn | Website Nature & More Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website — Wanjira Mathai Vice President & Regional Director for Africa, World Resources Institute (WRI) Twitter | LinkedIn | Website WRI Africa Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook — Jenipher Sambazi Coffee Farmer & Vice Chair, Mount Elgon Agroforestry Community Cooperative Enterprise (MEACCE) MEACCE Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Website — Elen Jones Co-Founder and Director, Jenipher's Coffi LinkedIn Jenipher's Coffi Instagram | Facebook | Website — Ed Davey Policy and International Engagement Director, Food and Land Use Coalition & Co-Director, WRI UK Twitter | LinkedIn WRI Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook FOLU Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Helena Leurent Director General, Consumers International Twitter | LinkedIn Consumers International Twitter | LinkedIn | Website — Keep up with Christiana Figueres online Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 3, 2022 • 52min
142. Ukraine, Defense, and Climate Change with William Hague and David Miliband
All eyes are on Ukraine as we watch the horrific events unfold as a result of Russian aggression. Are we sliding toward a global catastrophe or seeing the birth of a new political order? How will we know which one awaits us? This week, we speak to former UK Foriegn Ministers David Miliband and the Rt Hon Lord William Hague. We pitch to them this question of, “how will we know which one awaits us?” as we admire the resilience of the people of Ukraine and witness the inextinguishable might of people power. Is this the ironic end of global energy dependence on a petrostate or the resurgence of fossil fuel infrastructure for the sake of energy independence? No simple answers ahead. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode: READ: William Hague’s piece from 2019 in The Telegraph - Conservatives Have to Take the Climate Crisis Seriously READ: David Miliband’s latest in NYT - Ukraine Presents a Moral Crisis, Not Just a Military One CATCH UP: Outrage + Optimism’s previous episodes on The Future of Food LISTEN: Our episode from Tuesday on the Latest IPCC Report — Thanks to our guests this week, William Hague and David Miliband! Rt Hon Lord William Hague Lord Hague of Richmond Twitter David Miliband President & CEO | International Rescue Committee Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook International Rescue Committee Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook — Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 1, 2022 • 36min
141. IPCC Report: Adapt or Die! with Patrick Verkooijen
The latest IPCC Report from Working Group II on Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability comes at an unprecedented moment in human history. A moment too late to avoid all effects of climate change baked into an already 1.1C warmer world, and a moment not too late to adapt humanity and all species to our increasingly important target of only 1.5C of warming. In a strikingly clear connection this report makes between human and ecosystem vulnerability, the science is clear; Either we adapt, or we perish. Because between 3.3-3.6 Billion humans are currently living in areas “highly vulnerable to climate change”. So, with over 270 scientists that poured over 34,000 publications and assessed 127 risks telling us to adapt now, Now, NOW! …how do we cut to the heart of those at the levers of economic and governmental power already dealing with war, famine, a pandemic, the list goes on. This week, Patrick Verkooijen, CEO of the Global Center on Adaptation joins us to lay out the findings of this next section of the IPCC report, and how tapping into humanity’s enlightened Self-interest (with a capital S) can take investment now into adaptation and promise exponential returns for humanity, as well as all species on Earth. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode (and others): READ: The IPCC Report: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability WATCH: IPCC Press Conference + Secretary-General of The UN’s Address LISTEN: Our Episode with Michael Mann on the previous Working Group I contribution to the IPCC Report — Thanks to our guest this week, Patrick Verkooijen! Patrick Verkooijen CEO | Global Center on Adaptation Twitter | LinkedIn Global Center on Adaptation Twitter | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 24, 2022 • 55min
140. Every Country Could Be Carbon Negative with Erika Mouynes
“It doesn’t matter what your economy is. It’s just a matter of deciding of protecting your areas and committing to it.” Last week it was reported that the world’s governments are currently subsidizing our own destruction to the tune of $1.8 Trillion a year…yeah. Not good. What does it look like to turn these subsidies around to promote nature, clean energy, and equitable access to energy across continents? Maybe this week we have the answer, because in the midst of those irresponsible subsidies, this week we present a story of responsibility, political courage, and negativity! …The good kind. Erika Mouynes is the Minister of Foreign Affairs from Panama, a country that recently attained certified Carbon Negative status. How does a country with a fleet of ships that is the 8th largest emitter of greenhouse gases and an economy based on global trade go carbon negative? Minister Mouynes tells all in our interview. From implementing a Greenhouse Gas Emissions Fee, to the indigenous protection of land, and even some eco-surveillance in space, today’s episode is all about how a Minister of Forein Affairs goes absolutely Environmental. And stick around ‘til the end for the African Fusion Soul stylings of ‘Ganda Boys’. Enjoy the show! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter! — Mentioned links from the episode: READ: ROADMAP TO REGENERATION: THE EARTHSHOT PRIZE SELECTION PRIORITIES 2022 READ: The Guardian - “World spends $1.8tn a year on subsidies that harm environment, study finds” READ: Yuval Noah Harari’s 2% More Campaign — Thanks to our guest this week, Minister Erika Mouynes! Erika Mouynes Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Panama Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores de Panamá Twitter | LinkedIn — African Fusion Soul Group ‘Ganda Boys’ are our musical guest! Ganda Boys Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website | YouTube (Note from Clay - Be sure to check out their YouTube) Ganda Foundation Website — Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 17, 2022 • 1h 7min
139. 2% For 1.5 with Yuval Noah Harari
It took 40-50% of GDP to win WWII, 15% to manage COVID in 2020, so what can 2% do? Historian, philosopher, bestselling author (and newly welcomed activist!), Yuval Noah Harari joins us to highlight how investing just 2% of global GDP into developing eco-friendly technologies and infrastructure every year could avert “the apocalypse” as he puts it. His clear, down-to-the-essence thinking shines a bright light on a dark moment. Hit play to listen! And at the top of the episode, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss the latest UK fringe conservative rumblings of the “Net Zero Scrutiny Group” and how recent populism movements are a wolf in sheeps clothing for communities who feel disenfranchised by politicians and global energy price fluctuations alike. Plus! This week we have a special musical guest, “Ny Oh” with her song “Australia”. Stick around for that! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Mentioned links from the episode: LISTEN: Christiana guests on The Way Out Is In — Thanks to our guest this week, Yuval Noah Harari Yuval Harari Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Sapienship 2% More | Website — The multi-talented, undeniable Ny Oh is our musical guest! Ny Oh Instagram | YouTube | BandCamp | Spotify | Website | Facebook Neon Gru Spotify | BandCamp | YouTube — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 10, 2022 • 1h 9min
138. Just Look Up! with Adam McKay
Today, an earth-shattering comet of an episode as Christiana, Tom and Paul talk to the phenomenally talented Adam McKay about his 4 time Oscar nominated film Don’t Look Up! Writing and directing a comedy film about climate change is not a challenge for the faint hearted. Not only did Adam McKay take this challenge on, in doing so he created a tour-de-force which dominated global news feeds after its release, quickly took the position of 2nd most watched Netflix original and got EVERYONE talking about climate change. Listen as he describes his journey of growing climate awareness, how he doesn’t think he will produce another piece of work that ISN’T about climate change, and the breaking news that France will be hosting its own series of ‘Just Look Up’ days as a result of the film. The hosts are also super charged this week as they tackle the global energy crisis head on, taking us on a whistlestop tour of the major issues that are being played out against an ever increasingly tense geopolitical backdrop. Can gas ever be considered green? What are the implications of this crisis on a swift green energy transition and stability of net zero ambitions? We think you’ll agree, we really did have it all this week didn’t we? And! Stick around til the end because playing us out this week is the incredibly talented Sibusile Xaba with his single ‘Angisenalutho’. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Mentioned links from the episode: JOIN: Don’t Look Up’s Count Us In Initiative! (And bring a friend!) READ: What if Climate Change Were Like a Comet? By Emily Atkin of HEATED WATCH: Rowanbank’s Positive Imaginings Films LISTEN: The Last Podcast Ever Made: A Don’t Look Up Podcast — Thanks to our guest this week, Adam McKay! Adam McKay Writer | Director | Producer Twitter HyperObject Twitter — The fantastic Sibusile Xaba is this week’s musical guest! Sibusile Xaba Instagram | Facebook | BandCamp | YouTube | Twitter — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


