Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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Jun 6, 2022 • 46min

157. Presenting: ‘Who Cares Wins’ with Lily Cole and Christiana Figueres

Today, a special bonus episode in your feed from British model, actress, climate activist and podcaster, Lily Cole. In this episode of ‘Who Cares Wins’, Host Lily Cole interviews Christiana Figueres on how to maintain daily optimism, why more women in leadership will deliver a better world, and how systemic change and a livable future can begin with me and you.   Enjoy the episode!   Click Here to listen to more episodes of ‘Who Cares Wins’   Who Cares Wins with Lily Cole Apple Podcasts | Spotify   —   Lily Cole Instagram | Facebook | Website   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @OutrageOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jun 2, 2022 • 53min

156. Why It's "Not Too Late" with Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua

Reactions to the now infamous presentation of the suspended HSBC Head of Responsible Investing, Stuart Kirk, is still a source of considerable outrage here at Outrage + Optimism.  Kirk’s presentation entitled "Why investors need not worry about climate risk" peddled such dangerous climate disinformation that it prompted Christiana to refer to it in her brilliant op-ed in Investor Week as one of the most irresponsible public statements we have heard in years. In this week’s episode brace yourself for Paul’s no holds barred account of what he really thinks about Stuart Kirk’s views and hear Christiana expand on why opinions like Kirk’s threaten the emergence of stakeholder capitalism. Tom’s insightful analysis further links the growing movement of incumbents rallying against ‘woke capitalism’ with the corporate disclosure of emissions and climate risk that is about to be regulated in the US and the EU.   Thankfully our main interview this week features a previous, much loved, Outrage + Optimism guest Rebecca Solnit, and the inspirational Thelma Young Lutunatabua whose Not Too Late project offers us the tools to tackle this current wave of disinformation, and provides tangible stories of hope. Hear how the project aims to invite newcomers to the climate movement, as well as providing climate facts and encouragement for people who are already engaged but weary.  Listening to these two incredible women speak about Not Too Late ‘rang a bell of truth in our souls’ as Thelma so beautifully puts it in the interview.   Sit back and be sure to enjoy the remarkable track Preacher Man by Mica Millar.   Enjoy the show!   — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!  — Not Too Late Make sure to visit the Not To Late project launched by Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua Website | Facebook | Twitter   — Mentioned links from the episode:   Not So Moral Money?  -  link to the Business Green article Christiana mentions in the episode that deunks Stuart Kirk's presentation.     On Being podcast episode with Tarana Burke speaking about the need for ‘revolutionary grace’ mentioned by Thelma.  —   A HUGE thank you to Adam, James and the team at Airaphon this week for editing this week’s podcast while Clay is away! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Website   — Thank you to our musical guest this week, Mica Millar! Mica Millar Website |Facebook |Instagram |YouTube |Tik Tok |Twitter — Follow @OutrageOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 26, 2022 • 1h 9min

155. Huge Wins for Future Generations in Australia and Wales with Sophie Howe

Finally, some optimism for future generations! First, in Australia, the massive success of the so-called ‘teal’ female candidates, who are not aligned to either of the major political parties, but have essentially swept to power across a number of states. This, along with long-awaited Labour victories…Does this mean the climate wars are over in Australia? We dialed up Dean Bialek, lead negotiator and legal advisor to the world’s island states (AOSIS) in negotiations that led to the 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change and current Head of Policy & International Strategy at CWP Global, to give us a quick update on what this major swing in Australian politics means for climate! And for our main interview this week, we sit down with Sophie Howe, Future Generations Commissioner for Wales. Her role is linked to the Welsh Government’s 2015 Wellbeing and Future Generations Act, which requires public bodies in Wales to think about the long-term impact of their decisions. Described by the Big Issue Magazine as one of the UK’s leading Changemakers, her interventions have secured fundamental changes to land use planning policy, major transport schemes and Government policy on housing - ensuring that decisions taken today are fit for the future, and especially future generations in Wales. And this week a special Outrage + Optimism EXCLUSIVE performance, 'Quémalo' by Kathy Palma (ft. Reyli Barba).   Enjoy the show!   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Mentioned links from the episode:   READ: The Welsh Government’s 2015 Wellbeing and Future Generations Act LISTEN: Repsonse to Listener Review - 4 O+O Episodes on Food Systems   —   Thanks to our guest this week, Sophie Howe!   Sophie Howe Future Generations Commissioner for Wales Twitter | LinkedIn   The Office of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   —   And thank you to Dean Bialek for joining us!   Dr Dean Bialek Head, Policy & International Strategy CWP Global Twitter | LinkedIn   CWP Global  Website |  LinkedIn   —   Thank you to our musical guest this week, Kathy Palma!   Kathy Palma Spotify | Apple Music | YouTube | Tidal | Instagram | Facebook | Website   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @OutrageOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 20, 2022 • 59min

154. African Clean Energy Access: Why Gas Cannot Be The Future Africa Chooses with Rachel Kyte

In this episode, we talk about the impacts of living through a global energy crisis while living through a climate crisis. Inflation is running at 10% in most major economies, the highest in decades. This is driven primarily by the cost of food and energy. And while most of us are aware of higher prices at the pump and on energy bills, today we focus on the hardest place it is hitting: Africa. Since 2019, 4% of Africans have lost access to affordable energy, undoing a decade of gains.  And with a desire in the Global North to get off of Russian Gas, there is higher demand for gas, and therefore pushing more and more people out of the ability to afford it. This week in response, African Ministers made the case for expanding gas production in Africa, amidst a climate crisis. So that’s the setup for this week’s discussion - we bring in Rachel Kyte, Dean of the Fletcher School at Tufts University to argue the case on how to move forward out of this complicated situation. And be sure to stick around ‘til the end for a brand new tune from Carmody titled, “Mother.”   Enjoy the show!   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Mentioned links from the episode:   READ: Vanessa Nakate’s Op-Ed in Aljazeera READ: SG António Guterres’ 5 Point Plan on Renewable Energy VOTE: Time is running out to vote! Go to EnvironmentalMusicPrize.com to vote for your favorite 3 songs. Voting ends May 22nd!   —   Thanks to our guest this week, Rachel Kyte!   Rachel Kyte Dean | The Fletcher School at Tufts University Twitter   The Fletcher School at Tufts University Twitter | Website   —   Thank you to our musical guest this week, Carmody!   Carmody Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Spotify   LIVE: Go see Carmody @ Amazing Grace in London on May 31st!   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @OutrageOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 12, 2022 • 1h 6min

153. Why the 21st Century is for Cities and Mayors with Sadiq Khan

Cities are where we will lose or win the climate change battle. Chapter 8 of the IPCC report on mitigation reported that more than half of the global population now lives in cities, and that proportion is expected to grow to about two-thirds by 2050. That is a lot of people. And that’s a lot of emissions. As of 2020, urban areas are the source of about 67-72% of emissions with about 100 of the highest emitting urban areas [currently] accounting for approximately 18% of the global carbon footprint.” But with problems like urban heat, growing disparities in income and access to food and healthcare, how are mayors uniquely empowered to adapt to everything a climate emergency brings with it? This week, we have the Mayor of London and Chair of C40, Sadiq Khan. He shares his personal journey with being diagnosed with Adult-Onset Asthma after breathing in too much pollution in London, and how educating the public and bringing people along with you in your leadership is the way forward to cleaner, greener cities. And this week a special sample of Environmental Music Prize finalist, Holy Holy with their song ‘Hello My Beautiful World’   Enjoy the show!   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Mentioned links from the episode:   LEARN: CDP Cities, States and Regions Open Data Portal VOTE: Environmental Music Prize   —   Thanks to our guest this week, Sadiq Khan!   Sadiq Khan Mayor of London | Chair of C40 Cities Twitter | Instagram   Mayor of London Twitter | Instagram   C40 Cities Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube   —   Thank you to our musical guest this week, Holy Holy!   Holy Holy Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube   Time is running out to vote! Go to EnvironmentalMusicPrize.com to make sure your vote counts!   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @OutrageOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 5, 2022 • 1h 12min

152. Putin, Producer Logic and Peak Demand with Kingsmill Bond

Does Putin’s invasion mark the end of the Fossil Fuel Era? In this week’s episode we look at how the Russian invasion in Ukraine and subsequent energy crises are impacting energy deals between developed and developing countries ahead of COP27. We also subject our guest, Kingsmill Bond of RMI, to a round of Paul’s new painfully-condescending evil oil baron persona as we put his optimistic assertions on the green energy transition to the test. And be sure to stay tuned until after the interview for a brand new song with main-character energy titled, ‘End Transmission’ from Stelios Vassaloudis.   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Mentioned links from the episode:   READ: How Putin’s War Marks the End of the Fossil Fuel Era LISTEN: The Climate Change and Happiness Podcast READ: ‘Generation Dread’ by Brit Wray   —   Thanks to our guest this week, Kingsmill Bond!   Kingsmill Bond Senior Principal | RMI Twitter | LinkedIn   RMI Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook   —   Thank you to our musical guest this week, Stelios Vassiloudis!   Stelios Vassiloudis Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Website   WATCH: All Else Fails Album Visuals Playlist   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @OutrageOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 28, 2022 • 1h 14min

151. What on Earth is Happening in the US with NRDC’s Manish Bapna

What on Earth is happening in the US on climate policy? This week, a look at US federal climate policy ahead of the US midterm elections. We explore the scarily-small-and-measured-in-weeks amount of time we have to pass meaningful climate legislation before the US midterm elections, and where the optimism is in Senate blocked legislation, a so-called ‘Conservative’ leaning Supreme Court, and a Presidential Administration dealing with fossil fuel addiction issues - Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and high prices at the pump. So, with the help of the NRDC’s Manish Bapna, we discuss whether it is still possible to squeeze through an acceptable climate package that would put The States back on track to achieve their net-zero goals, AND why his outrage fuels his optimism in the  midst  of seemingly insurmountable challenges. Plus! Stick around after the interview for the room shaking track ‘My Mama’ by musical guest, Dizraeli.   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Mentioned links from the episode:   NEWS: India’s Heatwave is about to get worse READ: ‘The Ministry For The Future’ by Kim Stanley Robinson REST: Resources for Dealing with Climate Anxiety DAME: Christiana Figueres is Now A Dame   —   Thanks to our guest this week, Manish Bapna!   Manish Bapna | President & CEO | Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) Twitter | LinkedIn   NRDC Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook   —   Thank you to our musical guest this week, Dizraeli!   Dizraeli Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Website   TOUR: Dizraeli is coming to a city near you! WATCH: See for yourself how Dizraeli is touring sustainably   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 21, 2022 • 57min

150. Earth Day Special: The Environmental Music Prize! with Edwina Floch

Australia is turning up the volume on environmentalism for the world to hear! If you turned on your favorite music radio station, would you know we’re in a crisis? Only 1% of songs in National Australian premier radio station Triple J’s Hottest 100 (2.5M+ votes) over the last 5 years directly referenced environmental issues…and that’s following mass bleaching of The Great Barrier Reef, The devastating Australian Bushfires of 2019-2020, AND a recent study before COP26 that reported 75% of Australians are concerned about climate change. So why is Australian mainstream music so culturally disconnected from a population overwhelmingly environmentalist? We know artists, bands, and musicians have been and are currently creating environmentally-minded music, so how do we get those songs into the mainstream? Our guest today, Edwina Floch, recently launched The Environmental Music Prize - A new $AU 20,000 prize that amplifies the voices of artists who inspire action for climate and conservation. The prize launched during the UN Climate Summit, and it's a global first and a call-to-action for artists to create and submit powerful music videos that celebrate nature and encourage us to defend it. Every movement needs anthems. The search is on! Enjoy the show and stick around to hear some amazing music from music artists Montaigne, In Hearts Wake, Little Green, Billy Otto, and King Stingray!   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Mentioned links from the episode:   WATCH: All the Music Videos by the finalists for The Environmental Music Prize! VOTE: Vote for your favorite Environmental Music Prize finalists! DONATE: Keep The Environmental Music Prize going! LEARN: Learn more about The Environmental Music Prize!   —   Thanks to our guest this week, Edwina Floch!   Edwina Floch Founder | Environmental Music Prize LinkedIn   Environmental Music Prize  Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook | Website   —   A massive thank you to all our musical guests this week:   Montaigne Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube WATCH: ‘Ready’ Music Video (feat. School Strike For Climate Activist Fergus Clarkson)   In Hearts Wake Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | EMP Profile   Little Green Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | EMP Profile   Billy Otto Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | EMP Profile   King Stingray Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | EMP Profile   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 14, 2022 • 1h 55min

149. Presenting: ‘The Way Out Is In’ with Christiana Figueres

As many around the world turn inward this week, we bring you a special episode featuring Christiana Figueres from ‘The Way Out Is In’ podcast. Many of us are looking for a way out of the crises we face. Climate, biodiversity, ecological, nature, health, wealth inequality…not to mention the deeply personal, familial, and interpersonal. A quick log in to twitter, checking the news, or reading the latest IPCC report reveals to us that we are on a path towards breakdown. We know there is a pathway out of this ‘atlas of human suffering’ as United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres recently said, but how do we chart that path? This week, we suggest that the way out of suffering is in it. Today we are sharing an episode from ‘The Way Out Is In’ podcast, produced by Plum Village, the Buddhist Monastery founded by the Late Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. Thich Nhat Hanh and his teachings were a vital support to Christiana in the lead up to the Paris Agreement and beyond.  In this episode, you’ll hear co-hosts Jo Confino and Brother Pháp Hữu invite Christiana on to share deeply about what brought her to Plum Village, both now and years ago during her first encounter with Thich Nhat Hanh; her journey to a spiritual practice that helped her overcome a personal crisis, and the transformative power of practices such as ‘deep listening’ and ‘interbeing’ on the negotiation process of The Paris Agreement. So get comfortable, settle in, and join us for a special listen to Episode #21 of ‘The Way Out Is In’ - Being the Change We Want to See in the World: A Conversation with Christiana Figueres [Content warning: This episode includes mentions of suicidal thoughts at 00:25:00 for approximately two minutes – listeners who could find this discussion distressing may wish to skip this section.]   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Links from the episode:   Next ‘The Way Out Is In’ Recommended Episodes To Listen To: War And Peace (Ukraine) Zen and The Art of Saving The Planet Wise Leadership w/ Lindsay Levin WATCH: ‘A Cloud Never Dies’ on YouTube READ: ‘Zen and The Art of Saving the Planet’ by Thich Nhat Hanh DOWNLOAD: The Plum Village App   —   A special thanks this week to Plum Village!   Brother Phap Huu Abbot | Upper Hamlet in Plum Village Co-Host | The Way Out Is In Instagram   Jo Confino Co-Host | The Way Out Is In Instagram   Plum Village Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube   Plum Village App Twitter | YouTube | Instagram   Thich Nhat Hanh Twitter | Foundation   —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 7, 2022 • 1h 7min

148. The Future is Intersectional with Leah Thomas

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - MLK (1963)   This week, we reject our flawed, siloed thinking and embrace the oneness of social justice and environmentalism as a singular, inclusive movement. In the Summer of 2020, our guest, Leah Thomas, coined the term “Intersectional Environmentalism” with a graphic she shared to Instagram that read, “Environmentalists For Black Lives Matter” as a call out to all environmentalists to stand in solidarity with BIPOC communities that face compounding social and environmental injustices daily. The Instagram post went viral, and the pledge she introduced along with it, The IE Pledge, has reached over a million people.  And so now that it’s 2022 and counting, how can we continue to root ourselves in that moment of clarity in 2020 and hold to the truth that you don’t have to separate race or racial justice from environmental advocacy? How can we scale climate solutions while advocating for marginalized communities all the while not making excuses for extractive industries? We’re also joined this week by special co-host Abigael Kima, a young energy expert and climate activist from Kenya .She is the producer and host of the new Hali-Hewa (Swahili for ‘Climate Change’) podcast, which will profile African activists and climate experts airing through to COP27 on themes including a just energy transition, loss and damage, youth participation in intergovernmental processes and indigenous rights. And —- Stick around for 3-Time GRAMMY Award Winning Artist Fantastic Negrito performing a live version of his song, “Rolling Through California”! Enjoy the show!   —   Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter!   —   Mentioned links from the episode:   ACT: Take the Intersectional Environmentalist Pledge LISTEN: IE’s Brand New Podcast ‘The Joy Report’ READ: MAPS (Marine Arctic Peace Sanctuary) WATCH: How Black Lives Matter and Environmental Justice Are Connected READ: The NAP Ministry   — Thanks to our guest this week, Leah Thomas!   Leah Thomas Founder | Intersectional Environmentalist Twitter | Instagram    Intersectional Environmentalist Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook | Website | Patreon   BUY: The Intersectional Environmentalist by Leah Thomas   —   Thank you to our Co-Host this week, Abigael Kima!   Abigael Kima Host and Producer | Hali Hewa Podcast  Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook    Hali Hewa Podcast  Website   —   Our musical guest this week is Fantastic Negrito!   Fantastic Negrito Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | Spotify | Apple Music | TikTok   WATCH: ‘Highest Bidder’ READ: New Film + Album “White Jesus Black Problems” coming June 3rd    —   Keep up with Christiana Figueres online: Instagram | Twitter   Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn   Paul Dickinson: LinkedIn | Twitter   —   Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn   Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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