

Perfume Room
Emma Vernon
Hosted by perfumehead & comedian Emma Vernon, Perfume Room is your #1 safe space to obsess over all things scent.
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry titans, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry titans, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
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Aug 23, 2022 • 37min
63. Scenting the Nordic Aesthetic (w/ Icelandic Artist and Fragrance Founder Andrea Maack)
Icelandic Artist and Niche Fragrance Founder Andrea Maack is in the Perfume Room today. While all of her fragrances are incredibly unique, they're united by a common otherworldly feel; today we discuss exactly what that feel is [Iceland]. We discuss her background as a visual artist, the interactive art exhibit that launched her fragrance career, the fragrance scene and niche scents permeating the streets of Reykjavik, and what it means to have a 'Nordic aesthetic.'
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FRAGS MENTIONED:
Andrea Maack: Ceramic, Craft, Coven; Nasomatto Black Afgano, Byredo Blanche, Andrea Maack: Soft Tension, Commes des Garcons, Byredo, Frederic Malle, Andrea Maack: Entrance, Smart

Aug 16, 2022 • 1h 4min
62. Chris Collins Smells like WHAT? (w/ Fragrance Founder Chris Collins)
Chris Collins, Founder of the niche, luxury, Black-owned fragrance brand Chris Collins (and casual former International Model) is in the Perfume Room today! We cover so much ground including the smell of hustle (yes, it has a smell), Chris Collins' little-known secret: he’s actually quite shy, why every fragrance brand needs a homebase, High School Chris (and what he smelled like), and how for better or worse, the most important thing a fragrance should do is provoke (which obv checks out, because Chris is—but of course—a Scorpio).
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Escentric Molecules Molecule 01, Bleu de Chanel, Aesop Hwyl, Chris Collins: Citrus Grandis, Tokyo Blue, Harlem Nights, Danse Sauvage, Renaissance; Mugler Angel, Geoffrey Beene Grey Flannel, Stetson, Angel for Men, Calvin Klein Obsession for Men, Calvin Klein Escape, CK Eternity, CK One, CK Be, Tommy for Men, Polo Sport, Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male, Dior Fahrenheit, Davidoff Cool Water, Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur
FOLLOW: @worldofchriscollins
SHOP: www.chriscollins.com
PERFUME ROOM: @perfumeroompod (IG) @emma_vern (TT)

Aug 9, 2022 • 59min
61. Vabbing, The Ultimate Indie Sleaze Perfume, and Why You Need to Stop Trying to Make Goblincore Happen (w/ Old Loser In Brooklyn, Mandy Lee!)
This week I am joined by your fave fashion analyst/tastemaker Mandy Lee, AKA Old Loser in Brooklyn. With over 400k TikTok followers, Mandy has played a pivotal role in both setting and predicting so many trends, perhaps most notably, the ever-loved Indie Sleaze, which we obviously scent. From Cottagecore to Coquette, we also discuss the perfect fragrance for every trending e-aesthetic. And you knew it was coming; separately, Mandy has been very high on Perfumetok’s radar in the last month for a different reason— a viral video she made (and has since taken down) about vabbing. Yep, this is the vabbing episode. Since posting, Mandy has not spoken out about that video and the life it took on— UNTIL NOW.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Glossier You, Chanel Chance, Maison Margiela Replica Beach Walk, Under The Lemon Trees; Old Spice, Le Labo Bergamote 22, Essential Faith, Nemat Amber, Axe, Britney Spears Curious, Paris Hilton Tease, DKNY Be Delicious, Clinique Happy, ELdO Secretions Magnifiques, Akro Night, Mugler Angel, Regimes des Fleurs Little Flower, Kismet Olfactive Nostalgia, Marissa Zappas La Divina, Guerlain Insolence, Marissa Zappas Annabel’s Birthday Cake, Escentric Molecules Molecule 01, DKNY Be Delicious, Marc Jacobs Daisy, Masque Milano Lost Alice, Serge Lutens Jeux de Peau, Akro Dark, Initio Absolute Aphrodisiac, Maison Margiela Replica Blue Sailing Day, Maison Margiela Replica By The Fireplace
FOLLOW MANDY: @oldloserinbrooklyn on all platforms
FOLLOW EMMA: @perfumeroompod @emma_vern
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Aug 2, 2022 • 57min
60. Beauty Editors' Most Coveted Fragrances (w/ Breaking Beauty podcast Co-Hosts Jill Dunn & Carlene Higgins)
Breaking Beauty podcast co-hosts Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins are in the Perfume Room today! These two longtime friends and beauty editors tell the stories behind the breakthrough people, products, and moments shaping beauty history and swatch and spritz everything so you don't have to. Today we discuss the most coveted fragrances in their personal collections, how beauty editors select the fragrances they write about, a wild press trip that included a multi-course Mugler Angel-inspired menu, fragrance in the metaverse, and of course, the trends and fragrances exciting them most right now. Need more of this?! Listen to my episode on Breaking Beauty that airs tomorrow all about my thoughts on the most viral Internet fragrances!
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Chris Collins Citrus Grandis, Aerin Mediterranean Honeysuckle Mimosa, Chris Collins African Rooibos, Le Labo The Matcha 26, Le Labo The Noir 29, Aspen Apothecary Dusk, Chanel Jersey, Terre D’Hermes, Penhaligon’s: Luna, Bluebell, Revenge of Lady Blanche; Liz Taylor White Diamonds, Dior J’Adore, Escentric Molecules Molecule 01, D.S. & Durga I Don’t Know What, Gwen Stefani Harajuku Lovers, The Body Shop White Musk, Coty: Exclamation, Vanilla Fields; Drakkar Noir, Old Spice cologne, Body Shop Vanilla Oil, Phlur Missing Person, Hermes Eau de Pamplemousse Rose, Marc Jacobs Splashes, Chanel Gardenia, Prada Infusion D’Iris, Chloe Eau de Fleurs Capucine, JLo Glow, Carolina Herrera Good Girl, Chanel No. 19, Dana Love’s Baby Soft, Stella McCartney Stella, Frederic Malle Synthetic Jungle, Baby Phat Goddess, SJP Lovely, Diesel Only the Brave, Emporio Armani Diamonds, ELdO I Am Trash, Henry Rose Windows Down, Chanel Gardenia, Tom Ford Soleil Blanc, Ellis Brooklyn Salt Body Oil, Marc Jacobs: Cucumber, Cranberry Rain; Chloe EDP, Dossier, Better World
FOLLOW BREAKING BEAUTY: @breakingbeautypodcast
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM: @perfumeroompod (IG) @emma_vern (TT)
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Jul 26, 2022 • 58min
59. Reconstructing Cleopatra’s Signature Scent: The Perfumes of Ancient Egypt (w/ Egyptologist Dora Goldsmith)
Egyptologist Dora Goldsmith is in the Perfume Room today! Dora is a PhD researcher at the Freie Universität Berlin who employs linguistics-based evidence to study and reconstruct the smells of ancient Egypt. You read that right; Dora doesn’t just study Egyptian scents, she brings them back to life(!) through perfect recreations of these ancient formulas. What did Cleopatra’s perfume smell like? Mummification? Deodorant? Hair Perfume? (Yes, hair perfume was a thing long before any of us started wearing it.) Dora knows and after today’s episode, so will you!
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Teo Cabanel Peau Salee Kierin Pier NY, Mugler Womanity, Vacation Inc, Jo Malone Salty Amber, Arquiste Sydney Rock Pool, Jo Malone Wood Sage & Sea Salt, Mugler Womanity
FOLLOW DORA: @prof_dora
EMAIL DORA TO ORDER HER SCENT KITS: doragold@zedat.fu-berlin.de

Jul 19, 2022 • 50min
58. The Urge to Herbal (w/ Queer Icon & Pop Star Hayley Kiyoko)
Hayley Kiyoko, AKA “Lesbian Jesus,” as her fans adoringly call her, is in the Perfume Room today! This multi-hyphenate pop-star, advocate, dancer, actress, producer, director, and ultimately queer *icon*, has added one more notch to her belt: perfume (which we obviously chat all about)! We discuss everything from the smells of her first crushes, to her newly-public relationship, to her horoscope sign and whether Hue (said newly launched fragrance) is indeed an Aries scent, and of course, we discuss her highly-anticipated second album, Panorama, which drops next Friday (!) MARK YOUR CALS & PREGAME THE ALBUM WITH THIS DELIGHTFUL CONVO 😘
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Escentric Molecules: Escentric 02, Escentric 01, Molecule 01 + Iris, Escentric 04; DS & Durga Rose Atlantic, Snif Suganami, Chrisitan Dior Bois D'Argent, Goutal Etoile d'une Nuit, Hue Hayley Kiyoko, Kelloggs Corn Flakes®, Elizabeth Arden Green Tea, D&G L’Imperatrice, VS Love Spell, Herbal Essences, Glow by JLo, P.F. Candle Co. No. 35 Ojai Lavender, P.F. Candle Co. No 21 Golden Coast, Le Labo Another 13, Glossier You, Tom Ford Lost Cherry
FOLLOW HAYLEY: @huefragrance @hayleykiyoko
SHOP HUE: huebyhayley.com
SEE HAYLEY ON TOUR: https://www.hayleykiyokoofficial.com/tour
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM: @perfumeroompod (IG) @emma_vern (TT)

Jul 5, 2022 • 45min
57. The Perfume with a 200,000-person-long Waitlist (w/ PHLUR Re-Founder Chriselle Lim!)
CHRISELLE LIM(!), Phlur Re-Founder, Bümo Co-Founder, mother, mega-influencer, Creative Director, and Rich Mom to 2.8M doting fans is in the Perfume Room today!! We discuss Missing Person—the Internet’s most wanted perfume (and its 200,000-person-long waitlist), the secret to great PR, the re-brand/launch/birth of both Chriselle and Phlur, and of course, Chriselle’s *Single* Rich Mom era—including her sexiest photoshoot yet 😏
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Tocca Stella, Britney Spears Curious, Marissa Zappas Annabel’s Birthday Cake, Hanae Mori Butterfly EDT, Phlur: Apricot Privée, Missing Person, Not Your Baby, Phloria, Lost Cause, Ameline; Juicy Couture Viva La Juicy, Clinique Happy, CK One, Phlur: Missing Person, Not Your Baby
FOLLOW: @chrisellelim @phlur
SHOP: phlur.com
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Jun 28, 2022 • 1h 7min
56. Perfume Room LIVE!!! (w/ Kismet Olfactive Founder/Perfumer Shabnam Tavakol!)
At long last, today's ep is the recording from Perfume Room LIVE (the one-year anniversary live show)!! Enjoy a snippet on trends of the past, present, and future from panelists Travaulya Wallace, Liz Renstrom (Basenote Bitch), and Dulma Altan, plus a full length interview with the Founder/Perfumer behind Kismet Olfactive, Shabnam Tavakol! Shaby and I discuss the path that led her to perfumery, what she actually learned in perfume school, the time she slept with a flower, and a phone call from Christopher Sheldrake that changed her life. PLUS enjoy a bonus cameo from MY MOM!
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Revlon Enjoli, Jean Nate, Dana Canoe, 4711, Ambre Blends, Dry Idea, Clean Reserve Muguet & Skin, Kenzo Parfum D’Ete, Parfums de Marly Meliora, JHAG Not A Perfume, Frederic Malle Carnal Flower, Kilian Good Girl Gone Bad, Avon Skin So Soft, YSL Opium, BR 540, La Perla Possibilities, Malibu Musk, Gap: Dream, Grass, Heaven; Miss Dior, Miss Dior Cherie, Viktor & Rolf Flowerbomb, SpiceBomb, Dior Sauvage, Curve for Men, SJP Stash, M by Mariah Carey, Paris Hilton Pixie Dust, Byredo, Phlur , Ariana Grande Cloud, Narciso For Her, Kismet Olfactive: Tuberose Tantra, Nymphea; Elizabeth Arden Sunflowers, A&F Fierce, Kismet Olfactive The Poet, VS Love Spell, Ralph Lauren Romance, Max Azria BCBG, Polo Blue, Strangelove, Kismet Olfactive Nostalgia, Tuberose Tantra
FOLLOW THE PANELISTS: @basenote_bitch @travaulyawallace @iamdulma
FOLLOW SHABY (Kismet Olfactive): @kismet.olfactive || kismetolfactive.com
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Jun 21, 2022 • 1h 3min
55. We Need a Le Labo Kitty Litter!! (w/ COMEDIAN MARGARET CHO!)
In today’s installment of all the best people are fragheads, I am joined by the ultimate fraghead: the one, the only MARGARET CHO!!! A 5-time Grammy-nominated comedian, Emmy-nominated actor, activist, entrepreneur, musician and artist, Margaret Cho not only does it all, she does it all…smelling GOOD. Margaret has an extensive collection, immaculate taste, and lays her head on her pillow each night smelling like a character in an Edith Wharton novel. We discuss what makes a scent a *bed scent,* the appropriate time to wear Secretions Magnifiques, what her perfect fragrance would smell like, and the niche fragrance that's scentscaping her...cats' litter boxes. Still not over this episode. Won't ever be.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Celine Dion Spring in Paris, Elizabeth Arden Green Tea, Estee Lauder Pleasures, Avon Haiku, Serge Lutens Filles en Aiguilles, Le Labo Petit Grain 21, Le Labo Santal 26, Figue 15, Le Labo Cedre 11, ELdO Secretions Magnifiques, Frederic Malle Portrait of A Lady, Vilhelm Poets of Berlin, Prescriptives Calyx, Byredo Belle de Tanger, Le Labo Another 13, Byredo Super Cedar, Frederic Malle Vetiver Extraordinaire, Glossier You, JHAG Not A Perfume, Le Labo Gaiac 10, Revlon Charlie, Jean Nate, Old Spice, Estee Lauder, Dana Loves Baby Soft, Cacharel Anais Anais, China Rain, Byredo Blanche, patchouli oil, Oil of Olay, The Body Shop Dewberry, Le Labo Santal 33, Comme des Garcons Wonderwood, Escentric Molecules Molecule 01, D&G Light Blue, Escentric Molecules: M01 + Iris, M01 + Patchouli, M01 + Mandarin, Molecule 02, Molecule 03, Molecule 04; Frederic Malle: Iris Poudre, French Lover (Bois D’Orage), Musc Ravageur Hair Perfume, Carnal Flower; Comme des Garcons Celluloid, Akro Ink, Chanel Jersey, Diptyque Benjoin Boheme, Le Labo Benjoin 19, MFK Petit Matin, Le Labo Limette 37, Le Labo Rose 31, Dana Loves Fresh Lemon, Dolly Fragrance, headshop strawberry oil, Hilde Soliani Fraaagola Saalaaata, Demeter Gingerale, Atelier Clementine California, Atelier Pomelo Paradis, Robert Piguet Fracas, Elizabeth Taylor White Diamonds, Revlon Enjoli, Coty Emeraud, SJP Stash, Commodity Book, BR540, Vilhelm Poets of Berlin, DS & Durga Cowboy Grass, Nemat Amber, DKNY Delicious, Parfums MDCI Peche Cardinale, Serge Lutens Filles en Aiguilles, Xinú Monstera
FOLLOW MARGARET: IG @margaret_cho, Twitter @margaretcho, TikTok: @themargaretcho
SEE MARGARET ON TOUR: https://margaretcho.com/tour/
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Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 5min
54. Everything You've Ever Wanted to Know About Perfumery School (w/ Apprentice Perfumer Ashley Santiago)
If you’ve ever been curious about the perfume-lover to perfumer pipeline, that's exactly what today's ep is about. I am joined by Ashley Santiago, AKA Ashley in Paris, who is—you guessed it—a perfume-lover turned [classically-trained] perfumer. Currently, she’s an Apprentice Perfumer at Givaudan. And if you’re wondering how an Apprentice Perfumer differs from a regular perfumer (or a even a Master Perfumer for that matter), guess what? Ashley takes us through all the different ranks, what they mean and how and when one achieves them. We chat all things perfume school including how to get in, if it's worth it, what you actually learn, and so much more. If you've ever been curious about anything related to classical training, this ep, with Ashley in Paris (who FTR, came before Emily), is #foryou.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Nasomatto Baraonda, Glossier you, Le Labo Santal 33, Le Labo The Noir 29, Kilian Roses on Ice, Custom MFK scent, MFK Oud Satin Mood, MFK Oud Silk Mood, JPG La Belle, B&BW, Lancome Miracle Forever, Paris Hilton by Paris Hilton, Serge Lutens Chergui, Montale Chocolate Greedy, Serge Lutens Bois de Violette, Coco Madamoiselle, Tom Ford, JPG Le Male, Mugler Angel
FOLLOW: @ashleyinparis @ashleyinperfume
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