
Banking with Interest
Banking with Interest, a podcast by IntraFi, features in-depth analysis and insight into the policy changes reshaping the banking industry. With insightful interviews and previews of pending policy challenges, the podcast is an essential listen for anyone connected to the financial services industry.
Banking with Interest is hosted by Rob Blackwell, an award-winning former journalist with more than two decades of experience as an expert on financial services policy. He is now Chief Content Officer and Head of External Affairs with IntraFi.
The show is produced by Sam Navarro, senior principal writer at IntraFi. The podcast theme song was written and produced by Stellar Tracks. The information, views, and opinions expressed during Banking With Interest belong solely to Rob Blackwell and his guests and do not represent those of IntraFi LLC, its directors, management, or employees. Any ideas and strategies contained within the podcast are for informational purposes only and do not constitute legal or investment advice.
Latest episodes

May 8, 2024 • 43min
Rep. Lucas on HFSC Chair Bid, Bank Consolidation, Fed Independence
Rep. Frank Lucas, the longest serving Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, makes his case for why he should be the next chair, offering his views on community bank consolidation, whether the Fed should be independent, the dangers of quantum computing and how history informs his view of government agencies and programs.

May 1, 2024 • 43min
Could a Stablecoin Bill “Shatter” the Wall Between Banking and Commerce?
Hilary Allen, a law professor at American University Washington College of Law, warns that a stablecoin regulation bill could open the door to mixing banking and commerce, allowing WalMart, Amazon or Google to effectively set up their own bank without facing bank-like regulations. She also details issues with the legislation introduced to date, including failures to address critically important issues.

Apr 24, 2024 • 38min
The Populist Threat to Banks
John Heltman and Claire Williams, two journalists with American Banker, discuss the outlet’s recent series on populism and how it impacts banks. They tackle why the banking industry is so often the target of populist politicians from both the left and the right, how populism is changing the debate on various bank policy debates now, and what comes next.

Apr 17, 2024 • 37min
Klein vs. Calabria Round 2: How to Solve the Housing Crisis
Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, debate the best way to address the housing crisis, as well as the dangers of politicizing banking regulation, whether the Fed is too worried about consensus, if the central bank is secretly working on a central bank digital currency and who should play The Sphere next.

Apr 10, 2024 • 40min
Calabria vs. Klein Round 1: Bank Rescues, Fed Playing Politics, Liquidity Fixes
Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, discuss how politics factors into the Fed’s monetary policy decisions, decry the rescue of uninsured depositors last year, debate how to fix liquidity rules and weigh in on revamping the FHLBs.

Apr 3, 2024 • 48min
Steele on What’s Needed After SVB, Biggest Threat to Banks, M&A Policy
Graham Steele, the former Treasury assistant secretary for financial institutions, offers a behind-the-scenes perspective on regulators’ decision to rescue uninsured depositors at Silicon Valley Bank and two other regional banks. He also discusses what policy changes are still needed as a result, the greatest challenge facing the banking industry, and why he’s worried about a “catastrophic” cybersecurity event.

Mar 21, 2024 • 32min
How SVB’s Collapse Changed Bank Policy for Good
Exploring the aftermath of Silicon Valley Bank's collapse and its impact on bank supervision and policy-making strategies. Reflecting on regulatory supervision post-collapse, challenges in home loan bank reform, bank stability concerns, and delays in FDIC's M&A policy changes. Discussing bank policies, competition, and promoting de novo formation while discouraging mergers.

Mar 13, 2024 • 38min
Whip Emmer on CBDCs, “Junk” Fees, Crypto and Community Banks
House Majority Whip Tom Emmer talks about his fears for the future of small banks—and how to reverse course—and why his movement to ban the Fed from creating a CBDC has gained steam. He also tackles his predictions for the House elections this year, the CFPB’s push against so-called “junk” fees and how he became one of the leading advocates for cryptocurrency in Congress.

Mar 6, 2024 • 36min
“The Most Contentious Fight in Washington Right Now”
Richard Hunt, executive chair of the Electronic Payments Coalition, talks about the battle over Capital One buying Discover, how it connects to the Durbin amendment’s restrictions on debit interchange fees, and why the fight over another Durbin legislative proposal on credit cards is so heated.

Feb 28, 2024 • 34min
How Banks Can Win the Battle for Deposits
Neil Stanley, CEO of the CorePoint, offers strategies and products banks can use to attract and retain deposits in a highly competitive deposit environment.
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