
Banking with Interest
Banking with Interest, a podcast by IntraFi, features in-depth analysis and insight into the policy changes reshaping the banking industry. With insightful interviews and previews of pending policy challenges, the podcast is an essential listen for anyone connected to the financial services industry.
Banking with Interest is hosted by Rob Blackwell, an award-winning former journalist with more than two decades of experience as an expert on financial services policy. He is now Chief Content Officer and Head of External Affairs with IntraFi.
The show is produced by Sam Navarro, senior principal writer at IntraFi. The podcast theme song was written and produced by Stellar Tracks. The information, views, and opinions expressed during Banking With Interest belong solely to Rob Blackwell and his guests and do not represent those of IntraFi LLC, its directors, management, or employees. Any ideas and strategies contained within the podcast are for informational purposes only and do not constitute legal or investment advice.
Latest episodes

Sep 4, 2024 • 32min
Inside the “Summer of Small Cuts” for Banks
Jaret Seiberg, managing director of TD Cowen’s Washington Research Group, discusses the many policy changes facing banks this summer, including the FDIC’s brokered deposit proposal, the Fed’s new FAQ on the discount window, a Texas court decision on the small business rule, and the new uncertainties the election poses for the industry.

Jul 31, 2024 • 50min
Inside the CFPB’s Sprint to the Finish Line
Alex Johnson, founder of Fintech Takes, discusses the CFPB’s race to complete as many regulatory initiatives – on earned wage access products, open data, privacy and more – ahead of the November election. And he talks about why banking as a service has turned into a “high-wire act without a safety net” in the wake of the Synapse bankruptcy.

Jul 24, 2024 • 36min
French Hill on Crypto Reg, Housing Reform, SVB Lessons & Bank Consolidation
Rep. French Hill, one of the leading candidates to chair the House Financial Services Committee next year, makes his case for the job, discussing how his former role as a bank CEO would help guide his agenda. He talks about why he’s worked so hard on crypto and stablecoin regulation bills, his vision for housing reform, the lessons of SVB, the end of Chevron deference, and his concerns on bank consolidation.

Jul 17, 2024 • 42min
The Titanic Shift in Banking Policy Ahead
Claire Williams, Capitol Hill reporter for American Banker, and Brendan Pedersen, who covers financial services for Punchbowl News, discuss the latest on financial policy. Will Christy Romero Goldsmith be confirmed to lead the FDIC? Is Basel III Endgame dead? How could Sen. J.D. Vance as vice president impact bank policy going forward?

Jul 9, 2024 • 44min
A Looming Crisis in CRE? What Bankers Need to Know
Phil Mobley, national director of office analytics for CoStar, the leading firm when it comes to commercial real estate, talks about how the market has changed in the wake of the pandemic. He discusses the trends right now, where the market is headed, and what risk office CRE poses to banks.

Jun 25, 2024 • 28min
Inside a Reg Split on Basel and the Battle for FDIC Control
Pete Schroeder, who covers financial regulation and policy for Reuters, breaks down why federal banking agencies are split on how to finalize new capital rules and explains how policymakers are reacting to a nominee for FDIC chair.

Jun 11, 2024 • 40min
Catch Check Fraud If You Can: The Growing Issue for Banks, Consumers
Frank Abagnale Jr., an expert on check forgery and the subject and inspiration for Steven Spielberg’s film “Catch Me If You Can,” talks about why check fraud is so much worse in recent years despite the overall decline of use of checks. He talks about why banks are struggling to detect forgeries, how policymakers should address the issue, and why the problem is poised to become even more dire.

Jun 4, 2024 • 31min
The Coming Battle Over Zelle Fraud
Penny Crosman, executive editor of technology at American Banker, goes behind the scenes on a case of Zelle fraud that cost a consumer thousands of dollars—and what it means for a coming policy fight between the big banks and Washington over the real-time payment system.

May 22, 2024 • 30min
The Massive Impacts of a Whirlwind Week for Banking Policy
Andrew Ackerman, a financial services reporter for the Wall Street Journal, discusses what happens next after FDIC Chair Martin Gruenberg’s surprise announcement that he will resign upon confirmation of a successor. Ackerman also details how regulators plan to dial back the Basel III Endgame proposal, and talks about the CFPB’s future after the Supreme Court upheld its funding structure.

May 14, 2024 • 43min
"A Political Thunderdome": The High Stakes for FDIC at Two Hill Hearings
Brendan Pedersen, the financial services reporter for Punchbowl News, discusses the critical importance of upcoming hearings to the future of the FDIC and disturbing revelations from a recent report looking into the agency’s culture. He also discusses an upcoming House vote on a crypto bill and the latest on financial privacy and stablecoin legislation.
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