

The Gist
Peach Fish Productions
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
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Sep 3, 2025 • 35min
Miles Taylor on Resistance Cascades, Rubio’s Turn, and Testing the Judiciary
Miles Taylor, a former DHS official and author of "Blowback," dives into the complexities of Trump’s political strategies. He discusses the ‘permission structures’ that shaped resistance in 2020 versus the challenges of 2024. The conversation touches on Marco Rubio’s political evolution, the role of patronage in silencing dissent, and the precarious position of the judiciary. Taylor argues that satire might persuade more people than traditional lectures, highlighting the dynamics of immigration policy and collective courage in the face of authoritarianism.

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Sep 2, 2025 • 37min
Ex-DHS Chief Miles Taylor: Trump, Treason, and Executive Power
Miles Taylor, former DHS Chief of Staff and author of 'Blowback,' sheds light on the alarming misuse of executive power. He shares his personal experiences with threats after being labeled 'treasonous' in a White House memo. The conversation dives into how loyalty scorecards affect organizations and the chilling impact of political intimidation. Taylor discusses the media's role in shaping perceptions around immigration policy, highlighting the complexities of enforcement and public opinion while critiquing a viral CNN segment.

Aug 30, 2025 • 20min
Governor Wes Moore on Baltimore’s Historic Drop in Homicides, Plus Laura Loomer’s Lunacy
Maryland Governor Wes Moore, known for steering Baltimore through a historic decline in homicides, discusses his data-driven strategies that have cut the city's murder rate by over 40%. He emphasizes the importance of community engagement and the role of support for crime victims in these efforts. The conversation also dips into the bizarre media landscape surrounding Laura Loomer, where sensationalism often trumps substance, revealing how her antics both garner attention and undermine meaningful political discourse.

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Aug 29, 2025 • 34min
Edward Wong: At the Edge of Empire, China, Family, and Power
Edward Wong, a New York Times diplomatic correspondent, dives deep into the intertwining of personal history and geopolitics in his insightful discussion. He shares stories from his father's experiences in Mao's army and his own challenges with censorship in modern China. The conversation also tackles ideologies, nationalism, and the implications of China's ascent on the global stage. Additionally, Wong reflects on the lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina and the role of misinformation in shaping narratives during crises.

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Aug 28, 2025 • 33min
Nick Foster on How We Really Think About the Future
Nick Foster, a designer and futurist with a background at Apple and Google, discusses his book 'Could Should Might Don’t', exploring how society misinterprets the future. He emphasizes a more collaborative and critical approach to futurism, challenging conventional narratives. Foster reflects on his experiences at Google X, urging us to understand biases in predictions. He also highlights the interplay of science fiction with real-world advancements, advocating for a grounded perspective on technology and everyday life.

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Aug 27, 2025 • 52min
Inside a Fat Camp named Shame
Kelsey Snelling, creator and reporter of the Camp Shame podcast, discusses the intense reality of weight loss retreats like Camp Shane. She reveals how these camps, founded on false promises, can deeply impact children's self-worth and body image. The conversation unpacks societal misconceptions about obesity and the ethical concerns surrounding fat camps. Snelling argues for a more nuanced understanding of health beyond appearance, revealing the distressing truths campers face and challenging conventional dieting ideologies.

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Aug 27, 2025 • 38min
Trump’s Mortgage Attacks and Kessler on Weight Loss
David Kessler, the former head of the FDA and author of "Diet, Drugs, and Dopamine," dives into how GLP-1 drugs are revolutionizing weight management. He discusses the failures of traditional diets and the need for a comprehensive approach to health that considers psychological factors. Kessler also reflects on the COVID-19 pandemic's impact on health and underscores the connection between obesity and chronic diseases. In a political twist, there's a heated discussion about Trump's controversial mortgage fraud claims and their implications.

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Aug 25, 2025 • 41min
David Kessler on Why Junk Food Is America’s Nicotine
David Kessler, former FDA Commissioner and author of 'Diet, Drugs, and Dopamine', shares insights on the alarming parallels between junk food and nicotine. He argues for reclassifying refined carbohydrates due to their addictive nature, explaining how ultra-processed foods function more like narcotics than nourishment. Kessler discusses the transformative potential of GLP-1 drugs for weight loss and how society’s health challenges mirror those of past tobacco use. His call to action urges a reevaluation of food safety standards in light of growing health concerns.

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Aug 23, 2025 • 32min
Trump’s Long Game and Miles Taylor’s Warning
Miles Taylor, a former top staffer at the Department of Homeland Security and known for his dissent as 'Anonymous,' shares insightful warnings from his new book, Blowback. He discusses the long-term dangers of Trump’s trade tactics, including tariffs that could jeopardize future elections. Taylor reflects on the emotional toll of anonymity in political discourse and the moral dilemmas faced by those dissenting within the Trump administration. He also highlights the urgent need for unity among moderates and progressives to counter the risk of a more extreme political landscape.

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Aug 22, 2025 • 54min
The Working Class Party with the Post-Graduate Jargon
McKenzie Wilson, Director of External Affairs at Blue Rose Research, joins to discuss how the Democrats are alienating crucial voter demographics. She highlights the disconnect between politicians and working-class concerns, particularly around the cost of living. Wilson delves into why Gen Z is drifting toward the right and critiques past electoral strategies. She also covers the absurdities of Trump’s detention center plans and urges a more relatable political discourse to regain lost voter appeal.