
The Gist
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Latest episodes

25 snips
May 14, 2025 • 41min
David Graham on The Project and the Plan to Remake American Government
David Graham, a staff writer for The Atlantic and author of 'The Project: How Project 2025 is Changing America', discusses the ambitious initiative to remake the U.S. government. He reveals its goal to create a more obedient bureaucracy and politically aligned agencies. The conversation dives into the blending of constitutional theory with radical changes and critiques the past administrations. Plus, Graham touches on the intriguing social implications of the Pope's MAGA-leaning brother on American culture.

8 snips
May 13, 2025 • 37min
Character Under Fire: Gen. Stanley McChrystal on the Costs of Conviction
Retired General Stanley McChrystal, a four-star general and author of 'On Character,' dives deep into the essence of true character in leadership. He emphasizes the importance of moral integrity over mere discipline, especially in military contexts. The discussion touches on military leadership's duality, the need for civilian oversight, and the nuances of decision-making under pressure. McChrystal also draws parallels between military choices and economic ramifications, highlighting the interconnectedness of leadership styles and public perception.

7 snips
May 12, 2025 • 36min
Altman Almighty
Keach Hagey, a Wall Street Journal journalist and author of "The Optimist: Sam Altman, OpenAI, and the Race to Invent the Future," dives into the ambitious world of Sam Altman. They discuss Altman’s journey from failed apps to spearheading billion-dollar AI ventures. The conversation also touches on the cultural shifts in how technology is perceived and the troubling gender imbalances in Silicon Valley. Hagey humorously critiques the implications of Trump's extravagant 'flying palace' and its reflections on political luxury.

May 10, 2025 • 30min
BLT: Bacon, Lettuce, and Todd
Don Bacon, a retired Air Force General and U.S. Representative for Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District, dives into the complexities of political representation in today’s landscape. He discusses the impact of redistricting and proposes reducing district sizes to combat gerrymandering. The challenges of campaigning during the pandemic are explored, highlighting the shift to digital tools and community engagement. Bacon also reflects on his nuanced relationship with the Trump voter base and the necessity of political reform for a healthier democracy.

8 snips
May 9, 2025 • 43min
Jim Lampley on the Blows That Made Broadcasting History
Jim Lampley, a veteran sports broadcaster and author of 'It Happened: A Uniquely Lucky Life in Sports Television', shares captivating tales from his storied career. He delves into the emotional depth of boxing commentary, reflecting on iconic fighters like Mike Tyson. Lampley also tackles the randomness of luck in broadcasting and how it shaped his path. Additionally, discussions touch on the pitfalls of health misinformation and the comedic controversy surrounding high school games like Senior Assassin, highlighting today's societal anxieties.

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May 8, 2025 • 1h 4min
Not Even Mad: Eric Zorn and Austin Berg
Eric Zorn, former opinion columnist for the Chicago Tribune, and Austin Berg, director of the Chicago Policy Center, tackle municipal overcrowding and Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker's ambitions. They humorously analyze the bizarre methods of the new Surgeon General while discussing severe socio-economic challenges. The duo delves into voter turnout issues, advocating for reforms like ranked choice voting, and critiques today's political theatrics. Plus, they lament the overuse of three-pointers in basketball, yearning for a return to the sport's classic style.

6 snips
May 7, 2025 • 46min
Max Expression, Merz Confusion
Max Kerman, frontman of the band Arkells and author of 'Try Hard: Creative Work in Progress', joins to discuss the unique craft behind songwriting and stage banter. He shares insights on how breaking routine fuels creativity and reveals a quirky story about planting show tickets with a retired farmer. The conversation takes a humorous turn as they delve into political confusion surrounding Germany's election, peppered with puns about schnitzels. Their insightful discussion highlights the joys of collaboration and the delicate balance between structure and spontaneity in artistic expression.

10 snips
May 6, 2025 • 33min
Holy Vehicles and Hollow Coverage
Chuck Todd, a seasoned political journalist and host of the Chuck Toddcast, dives into the symbolism behind Pope Francis' Popemobile gift to Gaza, highlighting its limited practical impact. He critiques media complicity and President Biden's inner circle's influence on political narratives. The conversation covers the importance of authentic dialogue in politics and how language, particularly terms like 'oligarch,' shapes public discourse. Chuck also humorously contrasts Bernie Sanders’ and Elissa Slotkin’s linguistic choices, connecting them to their family histories.

6 snips
May 6, 2025 • 44min
Chuck Todd Presses On
Chuck Todd, former host of Meet the Press and NBC journalist, dives into the landscape of modern American politics. He discusses his new podcast and debates the balance between non-partisanship and assertiveness in journalism. Chuck provides insights into Trump’s chaotic influence, comparing it to past administrations, and critiques misleading political rhetoric during interviews. He also tackles California's ambitious emission goals and questions the viability of enforcing new automotive standards. It's a deep and insightful exploration of today’s media and political climate.

6 snips
May 3, 2025 • 1h 11min
Mike Stops by House of Strauss and The Dispatch
Ethan Strauss, a sports and culture writer, joins forces with Sarah Isger, political commentator, Jesse Single, a media contributor, and Jonah Goldberg, a Dispatch veteran. They dive deep into Giannis Antetokounmpo's emotional NBA journey and the intricate dynamics of leadership within sports. The conversation also touches on the intersection of youthful political figures, campaign strategies, and the changing landscape of voter engagement. From media metrics to personal anecdotes, the discussion is a blend of sports, politics, and cultural critique.