

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
TBT is Pakistan's fastest-growing podcast show covering conversations around Art, Culture & Technology. Tune in thrice a week to be a part of our community!
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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Mar 2, 2022 • 1h 3min
205 | Pakistan’s First Digital Payment Gateway Ft. Adnan Ali
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Adnan Ali. What do the consumers need to know about PayFast? When did this begin, and how is it progressing? Where is PayFast at the moment? What sets them apart from other market leaders? Is Raast a competitor? What makes PayFast and Raast different? How is this going to help the consumers? What exactly is the issue here? What Model is PayFast using? What exactly is the procedure? What kind of paperwork is required? Can this be used by someone who isn't technically inclined? Are they aggregating payments? What is Adnan's opinion on the regulatory framework? Does this work with all cards? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.
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Adnan’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnan-ali5934426/?originalSubdomain=pk
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYn77smpSS0&ab_channel=PakistanNow
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Feb 28, 2022 • 1h 44min
204 | First IT Stock Market Listing In Pakistan Ft. Ali Naqi Shaheen
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Ali Naqi Shaheen. What was his journey like? Were his parents acceptable of his career choices? How did he find his time in LUMS? How did Ali start his career? How did they manage money? What was the company's growth like? Why did they consider extending the business? What is the German market like? Why did they register their company in Munich? How did they name the business? Was the company growing? Why did they stop looking at headcount? Did they face any issues after the economic policy in 2014? The thought process behind considering seed money? What is “always on video call?” How do they work as an entity right now? Are they considering STZ’s? Is the parent company Pakistani? Who is this now being offered to? What happens next? How and when to apply? The mainboard listing and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Ali’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-naqi-shaheen/
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYn77smpSS0&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Feb 25, 2022 • 1h 3min
203 | Designing Electric Vehicles in Pakistan Ft. Mode Mobility
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In conversation with tonight’s guests, Shah Talha Sohail and Najiullah Hussaini. What do you need to know about Mode Mobility? Thought behind bringing this to Pakistan? Talha’s Journey! What do engineers do after graduating? What is Formula Student? How many teams are expected to attend Formula Student? Is their final product different from ours? Were they customizing any components? What happened after coming to Islamabad? How did this start? Are they changing the engineering dynamics? What’s happening at Mode Mobility? Do costs keep on changing? Why aren’t they targeting the mass market? Would they consider it in the future? Why would people buy this? How is the bike charged? Can the chamber be upgraded later? What do you need to know about the battery? Is it high maintenance? What after-sale services do, they provide? Who are their target customers? When will this be available for the public? Will they be using the startup model? How do they envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way!
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Talha’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shahtalha/
Najiullah’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/najiullah-hussaini-aba27578/
Mode mobility’s Website: http://modemobility.pk/
Mode mobility’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/modemobilitypakistan
Mode mobility’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/modemobilitypakistan/
Mode mobility’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/modemobility
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The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYn77smpSS0&ab_channel=Pakistan

Feb 23, 2022 • 50min
202 | How Did Coke Studio Happen For Her? Ft. Seemab Saqib Khan
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Seemab Saqib Khan. What is Seemab’s role in Coke studio? What was her journey like? How did she end up at the position she’s at? Why did she go to NCA? When did she start working? Was her family supportive of her continuing photography? Was there ever a scary moment for her during that? How is her experience with wedding shoots? What is the thought behind her style of photography? How did Nescafe Basement happen for her? How did Coke Studio happen for her and what was her role? What was the role of the creative associate? What was it like working in the fashion industry? What does she think about the industry in Pakistan? Does the problem lie within the writers instead of the filmmakers? What is the creative community doing right now? How does she see the women in Pakistan’s media industry? Is the modeling industry still suffering? Is this problem exclusive to women or the entire industry? What is her next step? How does she envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode!
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Seemab’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seemabsaqibkhan/?hl=en
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYn77smpSS0&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Feb 21, 2022 • 1h 24min
201 | CEO Unilever Pakistan Amir Paracha
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Amir Paracha. What was his journey like? Are schools a status symbol now? Where did he go to college? How did he end up in IBA? How was his experience in IBA? Did he know what he was doing back then? How did he end up working in Shell? How can you adjust to the new company you work in? How long did he work in Shell? Why did he leave Shell? How did he get into Unilever? What made him stay in Unilever? How long did he work on Surf Excel and what was it like? What is the brand manager's role? Where did he move next? How would he differentiate working there from Pakistan? Why did he come back to Pakistan? What happened after he came back? How diverse and widespread is Unilever? How was it like taking over in the pandemic? Why and how are they working on Climate change? Has Pakistan changed over the past few years? Why is saving so important? Is Pakistan capable of producing world-class products? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Amir’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amir-paracha-4883801/?originalSubdomain=pk
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYn77smpSS0&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Feb 2, 2022 • 1h 1min
200 | Our Season 2 Last Best Super Mega Foxy Episode
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Ali Ilyas. How does it feel to be back on TBT? What has his journey been like? Is it better to do Psychology from abroad? How did he find a job right after his masters? Is it easy to find a good job in this field? How did he get his first clients? What is Forensic Psychology? Is Criminal Psychology and Forensic Psychology the same? What is NeuroMarketing? Is Neuro Marketing common in Pakistan? What are all the areas that Ali has worked in? Is research being done on Criminal Psychology in Pakistan? What helped Ali reach his goals? Would he want to impart his knowledge and findings? How to identify a psychopath? How does Ali envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode.
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Ali’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mentalhealthwithali/?hl=en
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmClmtAoIeE&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Jan 31, 2022 • 1h 7min
199 | Maximizing Your Productivity As A Freelancer Ft. Sarmad Ahsan
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Sarmad Ahsan. How many motion graphic designers are there in Pakistan? What was his journey like? What inspired Sarmad to start graphic designing? What was his first-ever job? What did he do after his graduation? How difficult was it to study for the CSS exam? How was it like being a Sindhi living in Lahore? Was living in Lahore different from Karachi? What is the difference between Graphic Design and Motion Design? Did studying for CSS transform him? Where did he learn from? What is the major problem with the design industry in Pakistan? How do we solve it? Are knowing the basics important? What is important for designers to know? How does being organized help make things easier? Has being organized helped the team become more productive? How does he feel about the progress of PakistanNow? Why is Sarmad still in Islamabad? What is his take on what One8nine Media is doing? Will he ever make courses that people can benefit from? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Sarmad’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarmadahsan/?hl=en
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmClmtAoIeE&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Jan 28, 2022 • 1h 5min
198 | Successfully Running The Government's Digital Media Wing Ft. Shahbaz Khan
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Shahbaz Khan. What was his journey like? How did he deal with the cultural shock? How did they start Lolz Studio? What was the purpose of Lolz Studio? Why did they take a break from Lolz Studio? What was his first corporate job? How did he end up in Tera-Data? What is Tera-Data? Where did he go next? How did he get into the Ministry of information and what does he do there? Does PTI handle this? Why did they restart Lolz Studio? How is his life going? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode.
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Shahbaz’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shahbaz-khan-894947199/?originalSubdomain=pk
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmClmtAoIeE&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Jan 26, 2022 • 1h 2min
197 | Why Is There A Financial Burden On Men Ft. Saad Khalid
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Saad Khalid. What is he currently doing? What is Tera-Data? How do you manage data? Does he want to get married? What is Saad’s life like? How was his trip to Thailand? Why is there financial pressure on men? Are Punjabi’s privileged? Why can’t we survive on a single income now? What was the concept behind French Revolution? How do you create a system without fascists? Is Pakistan an Authoritarian state? How were the first three years of the economic policy? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode.
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Saad’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saad-khalid-68a0a9112/?originalSubdomain=pk
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

Jan 24, 2022 • 1h 17min
196 | Will Gilgit Baltistan Become Pakistan’s 5th Province? Ft. Yasir Abbas
Yasir Abbas discusses his journey from Gilgit to working with the Chief Minister. Topics include cultural challenges in university, his experiences in the youth parliament, the potential provincial status of Gilgit Baltistan, infrastructure development, tourism growth, and unlocking economic potential in the region.


