

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
TBT is Pakistan's fastest-growing podcast show covering conversations around Art, Culture & Technology. Tune in thrice a week to be a part of our community!
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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Jan 24, 2022 • 1h 17min
196 | Will Gilgit Baltistan Become Pakistan’s 5th Province? Ft. Yasir Abbas
Yasir Abbas discusses his journey from Gilgit to working with the Chief Minister. Topics include cultural challenges in university, his experiences in the youth parliament, the potential provincial status of Gilgit Baltistan, infrastructure development, tourism growth, and unlocking economic potential in the region.

Jan 21, 2022 • 1h 11min
195 | Working With Oracle, AWS, Microsoft, Redis And More! Ft. Taimur Rashid
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Taimur Rashid. How did he get into the Tech industry? What is project management? Why did he move to Microsoft? What was his role at Microsoft? When and why did he switch to Redis? What does Redis do? When did he start investing and advising? How did he know how much to invest? What is “SAFE note”? Why is he in Pakistan? How does he see the Pakistani market right now? How should Pakistan build talent? How can we support the creation of talent in Pakistan? Over the next decade will we be seeing a rise in remote jobs? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode.
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Taimur’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/taimurrashid
Taimur's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taimurrashid/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

Jan 19, 2022 • 1h 8min
194 | How Can We Transform The IT Sector Of Pakistan? Ft. CxO Global Forum
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Kanwal Masroor. What was his journey like? How did he get good at design? Are their clients only in Pakistan? Why did he continue working in Pakistan? Do they directly communicate with the client? What is “CxO Global Forum”? What is their plan? What is the solution for the “Talent problem”? Why is the government unable to understand the problems of the IT sector? How to empower entrepreneurs? What mechanism do we need? What is the scope of STZA in Pakistan? Who is preparing the talent that Pakistan needs? Where is the IT industry going to be a few years from now? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.
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Kanwal’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/kanwalmasroorb
CxO Global Forum’s Website: https://cxoforum.global/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

Jan 17, 2022 • 1h 17min
193 | Pakistan's Fastest Growing Unicorn Ft. Omair Ansari of ABHI
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Omair Ansari. What made him come into this field? What was his journey like? Why did he choose political science? What was his first job? How did they handle the financial crisis? How did he end up at his next job? Why did he leave that job? What is the difference between Frontier, Emerging, and Developed Markets? What was his first assignment in Iraq? How does Omair envision Africa over the next 20-30 years? What does he think about China’s interest in Africa? Why did he come to Pakistan? What is ABHI? How long have they been operating? How do they communicate with the client? What is their vision? What is the heart and core of ABHI? What is the fee that they are charging? How do they take the money out? Are they only going Business to Business? How many companies are with ABHI right now? What are the major challenges that companies in Pakistan face? Why don’t QR codes or digital payments work in Pakistan? Who is funding them? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Omair’s linkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/omair-ansari-40494329
Omair’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/omair.ansari
ABHI’s website: https://www.abhi.com.pk/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

Jan 14, 2022 • 1h 39min
192 | Reporting From Inside The Warzone Ft. Sumaira Khan
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Sumaira Khan. What was her journey like? How did her father contribute to her success? What was her first job? Was it scary to be the only female journalist going to “Ilaqa-e-ghair”? For how long did she work in Khyber News? Was she operating on the field or in the studio? How was it like talking to the suffering families? Does she have PTSD from these incidents? Why did she switch from Khyber News to PTV? How was Sumaira’s experience meeting Benazir Bhutto before her demise? How was her experience with Express-News? What happened during the Marriott incident? Did she always want to be a war journalist? What was her work in Express Tribune? How is it like right now in Afghanistan? What is ISISK? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.
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Sumaira’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/sumrkhan1?s=21
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg

Jan 12, 2022 • 1h 54min
191 | Can Freelancing Bring 10 Billion Dollars In IT Exports? Ft. Syed Arsalan Ali Shah
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Syed Arsalan Ali Shah. How was his journey like? How did “Connected Pakistan” start? What is the business model that they use? What motivates them to work? How did they optimize their website in the UK? How would Arsalan categorize his business? What are the different segments of Connected Pakistan? Are they different than software houses? How do you upscale yourself within the freelancing framework? Why did Arsalan excel in freelancing? Why are they starting Connected Pakistan chapters? How to bring the change that we want to see? How well marketed was the Kamiyab Jawan project? What is Akhuwat? Is the government responsible for everything? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Arsalan’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/syedarsalanalishah/?hl=en
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

Jan 10, 2022 • 1h 14min
190 | Can Pakistan Handle A Cyber-Attack? Ft. Etizaz Mohsin
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Etizaz Mohsin. How has his journey been like? How did he get into hacking? How did he clear OSCP? When did he move to Qatar and what happened after he did? What are OSCP, OSCE, OSWE, and OSEE? Has he completed the full series? What is the cybersecurity world? What is OSCP and why do it? What is OSCE and what is it about? What is bug bounty hunting? What is OSWE? What is OSEE and is it the final step? At this point, who is ahead in cybersecurity? What is the situation of cybersecurity in Pakistan? What should a country like Pakistan do for security? Who is protecting us from cyber-attacks? How was his experience in the hospitality industry? How does he see Pakistan 30 years from now? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.
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Etizaz’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aitezaz/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

Jan 7, 2022 • 1h 4min
189 | How To Publish Your Book Ft. Dastaan
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Syed Ommer Amer. How has his educational journey been? How was he able to make version 1.0 of Dastaan? What was the initial pitch for Dastaan? Why did he have to rethink the model? What is the idea behind Qisa? What’s the difference between Dastaan and Qisa? Are they profitable now? How are they different from other services? Are different packages available? Does everything happen in-house? What is the minimum number of books that can be printed? What does the membership cost? What is their most famous book? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.
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Ommer’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/syedommeramer

Jan 3, 2022 • 1h 42min
187 | Making Pakistan's First E-commerce Policy Ft. Badar Khushnood
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Badar Khushnood. The Co-Founder of Fishry.com is talking about his journey today. How was his journey like? How did internships help him? What is he working on? How was Bramerz growth within 9 years? Who mapped Pakistan’s waterways? Are google maps generated by ordinary people? What does his company focus on? Are products fundamentally important for an industry to bloom? What are the different ways to monetize as a publisher in Pakistan? What is Fishry e-commerce? What is the difference between “Fishry” and “Dukaan”? Is Shopify easy to use? What is their startup package? What does the listing of Amazon mean? How are the e-commerce numbers in Pakistan looking right now? Catch the summary on what’s happening in the IT industry and so much more in tonight’s episode.
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Badar’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/badar
The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

Dec 31, 2021 • 1h 22min
186 | Multiplying Your Savings w/Stock Market Ft. Laeeq Ahmad
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Laeeq Ahmad. How’s his life going? What is his educational journey like? Was his first job in Teradata? Why did he leave Teradata? How did he handle work with the twins? Why did he go to Australia? Can we learn how to invest through the books? How to invest if we want to? How do I invest if I have money right now? How to know which company or platform to choose? What courses do they have and are there any sessions going on? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.
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Laeeq’s LinkedIn: https://pk.linkedin.com/in/laeeqahmad
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk


