

Thought Behind Things
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
TBT is Pakistan's fastest-growing podcast show covering conversations around Art, Culture & Technology. Tune in thrice a week to be a part of our community!
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
We upload every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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Apr 29, 2022 • 53min
230 | Chief Process Outsourcing Officer Systems Limited Ft. Salman Wajid
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Salman Wajid. What has his journey been like? What was the nature of Salman's first job? What is his work experience? What was his role while working in all these Telecom companies? What was his role in Ibex Digital? What position did he take when he joined Systems? What operations has he and the team been working on? Image processing and was it used for Urdu as well? Why isn’t there much work in the Middle East? What markets have they tapped? What sort of processes are they looking at in e-commerce? Why haven’t we been able gain a foothold in the training data market? Was the Ukraine crisis a blessing in disguise? What changes has he noticed in the industry? What is the current value proposition for someone coming to Pakistan? Is it possible to make a good living as a contact center agent? Salman’s current opinion of the IT industry? What helped our industry grow from 1 billion to 3.5 billion? The large-scale business gurus! Will automation lead to dehumanization? How does he see the IT sector over the next decade? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Salman’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/salmanwajid/?originalSubdomain=pk
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 27, 2022 • 1h 4min
229 | How To Earn $50,000 Through PUBG? Ft. Khan PUBG
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Taimoor Ali Khan. What does he do? What has his journey been like? Why did he choose International Relations? When did he start playing e-sports? When did he first start gaming? What was his dota team like? Winning over the Indian team. What made him switch to Pubg? Why is this game more profitable than others? Was it simple to transition from Dota to Pubg? What is the frequency of gaming events in Pakistan? Amateur to Pro Level tournaments. How do they break down the prize money? How much can you earn from this yearly? Is he currently fully invested in e-sports? What is he planning to do next? How frequently do they perform? Who are their sponsors? When will he begin playing internationally? Leagues in Pakistan and how do they work? Why haven’t they ever considered FIFA? Is there a connection between age and e-sports? Can we expect a mega event in Pakistan? How does he see the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Taimoor’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/khann_pubg/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 25, 2022 • 1h 45min
228 | CXO Easypaisa, CEO Pinkribbon & Co-founder RIZQ
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In conversation with tonight’s guests, Omr Moeen Malik, Omer Aftab, and Huzaifa Ahmad. What does CXO mean? What have their journeys been like? Why and how was Easypaisa started? What was the beginning like, and how did it progress? Introducing Mini Apps via the platform model. Omer’s journey in Pink Ribbon? The risk of breast cancer in Pakistan and what challenges did they initially face? The “external” symptoms of breast cancer? The importance of timely diagnosing it? What kind of campaigns has Pink Ribbon run? Is it an advocacy group? Why is the risk in Pakistan higher than in India? Pakistan’s first dedicated Breast Cancer Hospital. RIZQ: How did it all begin and progress? What is RIZQ currently doing? Have charities caused an impact? Traditional ways of giving money? What part can Easypaisa play in the donation process? Crowdfunding and Fundraising? Digitized Account Opening through Easypaisa? How will this help the women in Pakistan? Why don’t we have such charity models in Pakistan? Omar's current opinion on the FinTech industry? How do they envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.
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Omar Moeen’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/omarmoeen/?originalSubdomain=pk
Huzaifa’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/huzaifa-ahmad-7026aa165/
Omer Aftab’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/omeraftab/
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 22, 2022 • 2h 8min
227 | Pakistan’s Leading Ed-Tech Platform Ft. Nearpeer
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Ammar Ali Ayub. What has his journey been like? How did he end up in Cadet college and why did he leave? How did he end up at LUMS? How to get a distinction in A-Levels? How was his time at LUMS? The importance of self-learning? How did he secure so many job opportunities? What type of resumes you should drop? What to consider before applying for a job? Why did he choose to Start his own business? What is Nearpeer and why was it started? Why does Apple assemble in China? What are they currently trying to do? Is a testing system integrated into it? What is the procedure for using it and how will it help us? How will they make it interesting for the audience? Primary, middle school education and the importance of Interactive learning. How does he see the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Ammar’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ammar.ali.ayub/?hl=en
Ammar’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ammar-ali-ayub/?originalSubdomain=pk
Nearpeer’s Website: https://nearpeer.org/landing
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 20, 2022 • 1h 3min
226 | "Killing Cancer Kindly" Ft. Dr. Mohammad Muneeb Khan
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Dr. Mohammad Muneeb Khan. What does an oncologist do? What has his journey been like? Why did he pursue a career as a doctor? Why did he choose Cancer as his focus? What happened during his post-graduation period? How was it to be a volunteer oncologist? When and why did he move to England? What are his qualifications? Initially what was his routine there? What is FRCR? Consultant Vs. Specialist? Dr.Khan’s Speciality? Why is there an Influx of patients in his hospital? What are the chances of getting cancer? Why is it higher in the western world? What options do we have if we don't take vitamin supplements? What is the “DAN technique” and how to do it? What can cause Cancer? How can fasting help us prevent it? Why does it happen? Can your lifestyle choices impact your children? How will the screening program work? What treatments are available and what is expected in the future? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Dr. Khan’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thekillingcancerkindly/
Dr. Khan’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCoRKTMncRTVIIGHlv-IVS7g
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnzyQYBT6g&t=1297s&ab_channel=PakistanNow
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 18, 2022 • 1h 34min
225 | To Be Honest With Tabish Hashmi
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Tabish Ahmed Hashmi. What is Tabish up to these days? What is his background? What was life like post-migration? What were the people of Aligarh like? What to joke and what to not joke about? Is it possible that Aligarh influenced him in some way? What has his education been like? The “Failing in Math” story. How did his four years at university go? How and when did he start public speaking? Was he always this funny? The university's assistance in his development. Starting his first job and how he got it? What exactly did his job entail? Switching his job and how did it go? How did he make the work environment conducive? What was it like working with 3M? How was it like joining a Tech Company? How and when did he start stand-up comedy? How does comedy work? Comedy in Pakistan and how it can be made better? How did To be honest (TBH) begin? Joining Geo News and is he excited for the new show? What to expect from the new show? Acceptance of difference of opinion. Why doesn’t he join politics? Thoughts on Geo reaching him at this time? The growth mindset! How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Tabish’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tabishhashmi/?hl=en
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnzyQYBT6g&t=1297s&ab_channel=PakistanNow
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 15, 2022 • 1h 21min
224 | Senior Vice President Systems Limited Kashif Manzoor
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Kashif Manzoor. What was his journey like? Why and how did he end up running away from Cadet College? How did he come to be a part of UET? How did he land in the field of computer science? How did he decide which university to attend? How did his four years at GIK go? What did he do post-graduation? What was the first job he had? What was his experience in China like? What was his role in Techlogix? Learning Chinese and what was it like to conduct interviews and make hiring decisions there? How big was the company? Completing the Master’s degree, Rejoining Techlogix and why did he leave it? Switching to ORACLE and how did it go? How did he end up at Confiz Limited? What brought him to Systems Limited? What's going on in the IT world and at Systems Limited? Are new opportunities going to be created? Will we be able to maintain our growth and improve our work culture? IT sector growth Vs. startup growth? Are IT services essential for the growth of startups? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode.
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Kashif’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kashif-manzoor-9197264?originalSubdomain=pk
Systems Limited Website: https://www.systemsltd.com/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnzyQYBT6g&t=1297s&ab_channel=PakistanNow
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 13, 2022 • 59min
223 | Pakistan's First Flexible Co-working Space Ft. Kickstart
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Saad Riaz. What is Kickstart? Why was it started? How many people are currently using it? What was it like to live in Chakwal? What was his education like? What impact did government college have on him? Why LUMS and how did it go? How did he get his business started? Coping up with the sudden changes post-graduation? What inspired them to start Kickstart? How did they figure out pricing and how was it designed? Was he aware of Co-working spaces before launching it? How long did it take to get clients? Benefits of working in a co-working environment? How did the company progress over time? How did they scale the business? What is the current number of available spaces? What kind of model do they have? How does he see the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Saad’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saad-riaz-/?originalSubdomain=pk
Kickstart’s Website: https://kickstart.pk/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnzyQYBT6g&t=1297s&ab_channel=PakistanNow
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ

Apr 11, 2022 • 1h 6min
222 | How to Plan Your Wedding In Three Minutes? Ft. Shadiyana
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In conversation with tonight’s guests, Izzah Zaman and Neelam Shoaib. What was Izzah’s journey like? How did she end up in software engineering? What was Neelam’s journey like? What drew Neelam to engineering? Why “Software” Engineering? How was their time at Nust? What brought them together? Girls in Practical vs. Academics. What did they do post-graduation? The master's experience! Were they financially independent after graduation? What are their roles in Shadiyana? How did “Shadiyana” happen? What drives them to keep working? When and how did they start? What is “Shadiyana” and how does it work? How many people have they served till now? What is their business model? How did they get the vendors on board? Why the subscription model? Why would people want to use this? What industry problems are they attempting to solve? Would they like to expand to bookings? What are their plans for their business? How many cities are currently they in? How do they see the Pakistan of 2050?
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Neelam’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neelam-shoaib/
Izzah’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/izzah-zaman/
Shadiyana's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shadiyana.pk/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnzyQYBT6g&t=1297s&ab_channel=PakistanNow
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ
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Apr 8, 2022 • 1h 35min
221 | The CEO of Datics AI & Founder Of Tech Nation Umair Majeed
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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Umair Majeed. What was his journey like? The final year “search through image” AI project. How is the Lodhran District? Where is Lodhran located? Had he ever traveled previously? What was his moving experience like? What do our degrees actually teach us? Had he gained any experience by graduation? Where did he apply after graduation? What was his work like? What tools had Umair worked on? What was it like to pursue a master's degree with a job? How was it like joining ITU? Why didn’t he complete his masters? When to start freelancing? When did he start his own organization? How did the company progress? Does he still use Upwork? What else is he currently doing? What is his perspective on freelancing and analysis of our industry? How can we solve the unemployability problem? How does he see the IT industry over the next 5-10 years? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode.
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Umair’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umairmajeedrana/details/experience/
The Pakistan Pivot podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnzyQYBT6g&t=1297s&ab_channel=PakistanNow
TBT shorts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6akyz6EpkwyzBmKh0L2rSQ


