The Fraud Boxer Podcast

In this conversation, Jordan and Jacqueline continue their conversation with special guest Klas Bäck from Pagos where they do a deeper dive into the intricacies of network tokens and debit routing, discussing their benefits, challenges, and the importance of data in optimizing payment processes. They explore how network tokens can enhance acceptance rates and the complexities involved in implementing debit routing for merchants. The discussion focuses on the need for merchants to engage with their acquiring partners to leverage these technologies effectively. The conversation details the intricacies of BINs (Bank Identification Numbers) and their significance in payment processing. We discuss the differences between six-digit and eight-digit BINs, their applications in fraud prevention, customer relationship management, and transaction routing. Lastly we explore the complexities of payment fees, including interchange rates and downgrades, emphasizing the importance of accurate data in optimizing transaction costs. The discussion highlights the need for merchants to be proactive in understanding their payment systems and the potential financial implications of mismanagement. --------------- Also, Pagos is giving away FREE enriched BIN data on 25 BINs today to listeners. You can get those by clicking here: https://pagos.ai/landing/fraudboxer Klas Bäck - https://www.linkedin.com/in/klasback

In this episode of Payments Corner Jordan and Jacqueline invite Klas Bäck from Pagos to join us as we do a deeper dive into the intricacies of network tokens and debit routing, discussing their benefits, challenges, and the importance of data in optimizing payment processes. They explore how network tokens can enhance acceptance rates and the complexities involved in implementing debit routing for merchants. We emphasizes the need for merchants to engage with their acquiring partners to leverage these technologies effectively. Also, Pagos is giving away FREE enriched BIN data on 25 BINs today to listeners. You can get those by clicking here: https://pagos.ai/landing/fraudboxer Klas Bäck - https://www.linkedin.com/in/klasback

Get your FREE website Bot Vulnerability Assessment here: https://datadome.co/signup/?utm_source=fraud_boxer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=bva In this episode Jordan interviews Ben Fabre from DataDome, discussing the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, particularly focusing on bot protection and account security. They explore the impact of bots on businesses, the challenges of maintaining user experience while ensuring security, and the innovative solutions offered by DataDome, including their DataDome Account Protect tool. The conversation also touches on the importance of edge processing, the evolution of threats, and the union of fraud prevention with cybersecurity efforts. Here are some key take aways from the episode: Bots are increasingly used for malicious activities beyond inventory theft. Account Takeover (ATO) is a significant concern for online businesses. Balancing user experience with security is crucial for customer retention. Edge processing allows for better detection of legitimate user behavior. The rise of AI has made it easier to create fake reviews and comments. Many websites lack basic protection against bot attacks. The cost of bot attacks can escalate quickly for businesses. Cybersecurity and fraud prevention teams must collaborate closely. Link to the 2024 Bot Report: https://datadome.drift.click/a430172e-2941-4683-bf0f-f0c3dfc2800e Link to the AI webinar with the MRC: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/reflecting-key-learnings-from-merchant-risk-councils-summit-aurelie-zkaqc/?trackingId=dVNhNV0rRT6ARKeweLH%2Bvg%3D%3D 

Get FREE enriched BIN data on 25 BINs today from our friends at Pagos by clicking here: https://pagos.ai/landing/fraudboxer ---------------------------- In this episode of Fraud Boxer, Jordan interviews Klas Bäck, co-founder of Pagos, a payment data company. Klas shares his extensive experience in the payment industry, detailing his journey from Sweden to the U.S. and the evolution of payment processing. The conversation centers on the vision behind Pagos, emphasizing the importance of data-driven decision-making in payment processing. Klas explains how Pagos helps businesses optimize their payment strategies through analytics, insights, and benchmarking against industry standards. The discussion explains how companies can leverage their payment data as a strategic asset to drive better outcomes and reduce costs. They also discuss the complexities of payment processing, focusing on authorization challenges, the importance of optimizing payment strategies, and leveraging tools like account updater and BIN data. They discuss the need for merchants to be proactive in managing their payment systems and the future innovations at Pagos that aim to enhance payment analytics and decision-making capabilities.

Welcome to another episode Fraud Focus! Today, Jordan and Cambria discuss the latest in global fraud by kicking things off with a story about U.S. companies unknowingly hiring North Korean contractors. These workers, some of whom have engaged in blackmail, were hired to reduce labor costs but posed serious risks, especially to data security. Cambria reflects on how scammers have evolved from workforce scams to more complex schemes, like funneling information and funds to unauthorized groups. Jordan emphasizes the dangers of outsourcing critical roles like cybersecurity without thoroughly vetting who has access to sensitive data. He shares that some Fortune 100 companies are learning this the hard way. They talk about the challenges of preventing identity fraud, especially as tech like deepfakes continues to improve. Cambria points out the importance of having humans alongside technology to catch things AI might miss. They also discuss the risks of outsourcing data-sensitive tasks to unknown third-party teams and highlight how companies should set boundaries on what information contractors can access. The podcast wraps up with a chat about trends in fraud prevention, the evolving nature of workforce scams, and Jordan’s visit to a recent user conference in New York. All in all, it’s a packed discussion full of insights on global fraud threats and data security. Relevant Article: https://therecord.media/major-us-companies-unwittingly-hire-north-korean-remote-it-workers

Welcome to the first episode of Payments Corner! This episode features his former boss, Jacqueline, as they try to simplify the world of payments. They explore why payments are more complex than they seem. It's not just about rates; it's about making payments easy for customers. Think of how ride sharing handles payments—you don't even notice them.   Many start with simple options like Stripe. It's easy to set up and offers fixed rates. But as your business grows, you'll need to look deeper into payments and the fees that come with it. We discuss the different parts of payments and what each fee is and how you might be able to save your company money by understanding them and knowing what you can ask for even explaining how risk factors in and can affect your acceptance rates.   This is part one of a multi part series where we discuss this topic. Enjoy!

Join Jordan as he sits down with Jeff Otto, the CMO of Riskified, during their user conference in Brooklyn, New York back in June 2024. They discussed how the event brings merchants together to share insights and fight fraud collectively and the value of connecting with peers who use the same software, highlighting how these summits deepen trust between merchants and vendors. Jeff shared his pride in his team for organizing the conference and creating a space for collaboration. They talk about the surprising rise in payment fraud in markets once considered safe and how Riskified uses advanced AI to predict and prevent such fraud, moving beyond just credit card issues to focus on customer identity. They also discuss the importance of merchants interacting with product builders which helps tailor solutions to real needs, rather than just creating features they think are cool. Finally, Jeff announces new products like Decision Studio and Policy Decisions. These tools let merchants customize settings and rules, providing more control over fraud prevention strategies. Enjoy the discussion!

In this episode, Jordan welcomes Erin West and Andrew Austin to discuss the human aspect of pig butchering scams. Erin is leading the charge in education, prosecution, and victim advocacy in the complex world of pig butchering which is a combination of a romance and cryptocurrency scam. It lures victims into a fake romantic or friendship relationship, builds trust, and eventually convinces them to invest in crypto, only for scammers to drain all their funds. Here are some of the topics covered: The emotional manipulation used in scams, which makes it difficult for victims to recognize the fraud until it's too late. Jordan reflects on his evolving views, realizing the importance of empathy toward victims and understanding the human side of fraud. Scammers now using more sophisticated techniques, including fake profiles and fake job offers, to lure victims. Law enforcement struggles with handling cryptocurrency crimes due to the complexity and evolving nature of the scams. The need for better victim support systems and education to help the public and local authorities recognize and prevent scams. And so much more! Erin is leading the charge with her Operation Shamrock movement to educate, seize, and disrupt. She is looking for victims, law enforcement, and finance partners to join and help her bring the fight and education to the masses. Please visit https://operationshamrock.org/ to learn how YOU can help!   Erin West: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinnordbywest/ Andrew Austin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/awaustin/

Jordan and Cambria discussed recent fraud news, focusing on a viral TikTok trend about a Chase bank glitch. People deposited fake checks into their accounts, trying to withdraw funds before the checks bounced. They noted that this "glitch" is essentially an old school check fraud, which has gained traction due to social media's influence.   Cambria emphasized that many didn't see it as fraud but rather an opportunity for quick cash. Both Jordan and Cambria found it amusing how easily people justified it due to the viral nature of the posts. They also pointed out that social media plays a significant role in normalizing questionable activities, such as this glitch and other scams.   They also touched on how sophisticated account takeover (ATO) and synthetic identities contribute to modern fraud, with many fraudsters using fake or stolen identities to exploit the system.   Additionally, they briefly discussed the rise in small business lending fraud, attributing it to stolen legitimate business identities and economic pressures. Jordan shared insights on how people are applying for fake loans using stolen business information. They concluded by stressing the importance of early fraud detection and the need for more robust shared intelligence among businesses to prevent fraud. Visit Frank's website who we reference a lot today: www.frankonfraud.com

In this episode of "Fraud Focus," Jordan and Cambria dive deep into the topic of friendly fraud, discussing recent industry trends and their personal experiences in fraud prevention. They begin by addressing the recent National Public Data breach, providing a detailed overview of the incident and offering practical advice on how to protect oneself from identity theft, such as freezing credit and being cautious with suspicious communications. The conversation then shifts to the core topic: friendly fraud. They explore how the COVID-19 pandemic and the rise of online shopping have led to an increase in friendly fraud cases, where consumers dispute legitimate charges to get refunds without returning the items. Jordan and Cambria discuss the psychological disconnect that leads consumers to engage in this behavior, comparing it to traditional theft. They also touch on the impact of friendly fraud on businesses, especially in industries like food delivery and digital goods. The discussion includes insights into the challenges of managing friendly fraud, the role of ATOs (Account Takeovers), and the sophistication of fraudsters in making fraudulent transactions appear legitimate. They also speculate on the potential for stricter consumer penalties and the need for better biometric authentication to curb fraud. They conclude by considering the broader implications of fraud prevention strategies and the importance of consumer education in reducing fraud. Articles Referenced in the episode: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/08/nationalpublicdata-com-hack-exposes-a-nations-data/ https://www.mastercard.com/news/perspectives/2024/sellers-beware-getting-to-the-bottom-of-first-party-fraud/   *The opinions expressed in this episode represent the hosts' personal opinions and do not necessary represent those of their affiliated or sponsor companies.