
Future Proof
Future Proof is the marketing podcast from Said Business School, Oxford University, and Kantar, the world’s leading marketing data and analytics company. In each episode, we’ll have a frank discussion with an expert, to help brands and business leaders navigate the changing landscape of marketing… and hopefully dispel some myths and misconceptions along the way. Looking at big industry question through both a market research and an academic lens, we can help prepare marketers for the future (with proof). All episodes and more info at https://www.kantar.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Feb 22, 2023 • 21min
29. What does media look like in 2023?
What does 2023 hold for media adspend? Jane Ostler talks to GroupM’s new guru of market prediction, Kate Scott-Dawkins, to get her views on where the global ad market is going. Together they explore the reality of what a soft-landing for the global economy will mean for overall ad spend as well as individual channels. Kate explains that while digital may appear to be to be struggling, it is in fact simply decelerating after unprecedented growth during the pandemic and remains one of the fastest-growing channels. More concerning for many brands is the challenge of delivering reach in 2023, which is becoming trickier as linear TV continues to decline in most markets. Finally, Jane and Kate discuss whether spend on new opportunities such as retail media, user generated content and influencers, gaming and the metaverse is going to scale rapidly. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 7, 2023 • 23min
28. Can being creative drive profitability?
We all know that great ads win awards but do they drive bottom line for the business that pays for them? In this episode of Future Proof, Jane Ostler talks to Amy Rodgers at WARC and Duncan Southgate from Kantar about new research into the complex relationship between creativity and profit. In particular, with many marketers being pushed to consider greater focus on performance marketing, she asks whether brand marketers can make an economic case for being bigger and bolder with their messaging in 2023. Amy and Duncan explain how WARC case study data on campaign ROI has been combined with Kantar’s Link ad quality scores to identify just how much short and long-term creative quality attributes drive profitability. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 2, 2023 • 23min
27. Why representation matters to brands
Jerry Daykin explains why inclusive marketing is, simply, better marketing. Jerry Daykin, Head of Global Media at Beam Suntory and WFA Diversity Ambassador, has recently written Inclusive Marketing, a practical guide to embedding true representation across the marketing process. In this episode, he talks to Valeria Piaggio, Global Head of DEI at Kantar, about how marketers need to think beyond their comfort zones and find different voices who can deliver competitive advantage and connect their brands with new customers. Valeria and Jerry discuss how research can help brands create more inclusive campaigns and explore the idea that inclusive marketing is simply better marketing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 18, 2023 • 20min
26. How should the worlds of culture, technology and policy interact?
Ed Vaizey has been part of the UK’s cultural leadership for more than a decade, as a UK Government Minister, a member of the House of Lords, a director at the Tate, and now with his own show on Times Radio. Today he talks to Jane Ostler, EVP of Thought Leadership at Kantar, about pandemic TV viewing, the future of radio and TV, and how data is used. In particular, he explains how cultural institutions such as the Tate can use technology, data and content to build communities of interest that could provide substantial revenues. Finally, he explains why our hybrid broadcasting system – streamed content plus live broadcasting – on both radio and TV, is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 15, 2022 • 28min
25. How can brands better understand and improve the menopause experience?
Menopause is an increasingly hot topic as brands, politicians, celebrities, and influencers are driving the conversation to the top of the agenda. We have invited Lesley Salem, Founder of Over The Bloody Moon, a leading menopause support provider, to frankly discuss about our research into symptoms, the menopause in the corporate space and how brands should look at the menopause with insights from our study Redefining the Menopause launched earlier this year. Lesley joins Jane Ostler to discuss the opportunities for brands in this space, how they can better understand the audience through insights and ultimately innovate and communicate sensitively and authentically – avoiding criticisms of “wellness washing”. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 1, 2022 • 18min
24. Why does brand safety on Twitter matter to CMOs?
With prominent ad agencies advising their clients to pause advertising on Twitter, we talk with Nick Primola, Group EVP of the Association of National Advertisers, about brand risk, credibility and how advertisers perceive the recent decisions taken by Twitter’s new owner Elon Musk. In this new episode Jane Ostler, EVP of Global Thought Leadership at Kantar, asks Nick what the social media platform can do to win back CMOs' trust, what are the big issues concerning advertisers right now, and how CMOs are now choosing the digital platforms where they will be present in the future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 18, 2022 • 28min
23. Did we mention attention?
Sander Bosch from Heineken explains the role of attention measurement in planning and evaluating communications effectiveness. There has been a rise in interest around attention in the last few years. Our latest Media Reactions study reveals the majority of marketers believe that attention influences both creative and media effectiveness. Will it soon become a media currency? In this episode of Future Proof, Sander Bosch, Global Head of Brand & Communication Insights at Heineken, joins Kantar’s Duncan Southgate to talk about multimedia planning, attention elasticity and attention metrics. With Sander we discuss how marketers are using attention measurement to drive performance, and explore the latest techniques to both measure and predict attention. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 2, 2022 • 32min
22. How brands are improving ad performance
Ad pre-testing plays a central role in campaign effectiveness, making sure the ad creates an emotional connection, builds the brand, and meets sales objectives. But with media budgets shifting to digital, should brands simply rely on in-flight campaign optimisation to drive performance? In this episode, Duncan Southgate, Creative & Media Solutions Director at Kantar, talks with Robin Langford, Editor at Performance Marketing World and Leonie Gates-Sumner, Head of Creative, Kantar UK about ad testing, in-flight optimisation, the role of Artificial Intelligence, and how the performance marketing landscape will evolve into 2023 and beyond. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 14, 2022 • 35min
21. What is truth in marketing?
What happens when marketing academics disagree? How do marketing academics look at brand theories and how does that resonate between marketing practitioners? In this episode, Jane Ostler, EVP of Global Thought Leadership at Kantar talks with Felipe Thomaz, associate professor of marketing at Saïd Business School, about trust, lies and evidence in marketing. Together with Graham Staplehurst, Thought Leadership director at Kantar BrandZ, they dig into the concepts of complexity, dynamism and differentiation and how they are seen by the world of academia and between marketing practitioners who must deal with decisions on a day-to-day basis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 11, 2022 • 31min
20. Aldi & McCann Manchester: The power of entertaining advertising to solve business challenges and propel growth.
In 2022 Aldi bounced back into the Global Top 100 Brands, having increased its value by 20% to $21bn. Aldi had the most effective UK Christmas ad last year and in is one of six brands to be nominated for Marketing Week’s UK brand of the year. Aldi is on the verge of taking over from Morrisons as the UK’s fourth biggest supermarket, it’s growth being far ahead of everyone else in a category that saw all but Tesco lose their share of wallet in the 12 weeks to July 10. Effective communications is one of the key pillars underpinning Aldi’s growth in the UK. In this podcast Jamie Peate, McCann’s UK head of Effectiveness and MWGs Global Head of Retail Strategy, talks about how McCann Manchester and Aldi have a shared effectiveness culture and ways of working that leads to the creation of entertaining and distinctive brand centric communications that solve business challenges and play a key role in propelling Aldi’s growth. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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