
Growth Masterminds: mobile growth podcast
Growth Masterminds is smart user acquisition and mobile growth pros sharing their best insights on UA, retention, mobile measurement, privacy, mobile marketing data, and much more.
Hosted by John Koetsier, we chat with brands like IMVU, DraftKings, and Mixtiles. We interrogate ad networks like Fyber, Kidoz, AppLike, Vungle, Bluestacks, and more. And we feature global experts like Eric Seufert and Jayne Peressini. Along the way, we hit topics like pLTV, creative optimization, incrementality, granularity, fraud, privacy, success in China ... and much, much more.
Latest episodes

Mar 8, 2023 • 37min
What Steph Curry's shoes reveal about livestream shopping in the west
Why does livestream shopping work in China but not in the U.S. or Europe? And what is one big obvious opportunity that big brands are missing?
In this Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier chats with MoEngage's VP of Strategy Vassil Mladjov. We chat about where livestream commerce is actually working, could work, and isn't. We also chat about what's different and why livestream commerce does work in China.
Key topics we cover:
1:27 3 minutes about Vassil
4:34 Livestream shopping: east vs west
8:57 Southeast Asia skipped the web
11:55 Cultural differences
12:28 Much bigger influencers in China
14:14 A massive opportunity for brands
14:38 Steph Curry's kicks
16:42 Siloed shopping
18:39 The huge Facebook opportunity
22:44 Live shopping with American characteristics
24:51 Amazon Live
29:29 Livestream commerce won't happen overnight
31:38 The bricks-and-mortar retail opportunity

Mar 3, 2023 • 27min
How TikTok is the new Google, with M&C Saatchi’s Jennifer Sudo
With over a billion people on TikTok, there’s a lot going on. In this episode of Growth Masterminds, we chat with M&C Saatchi’s Jennifer Sudo, who just completed a study on TikTok users.
What she found:
Over 90% of TikTokkers buy or are willing to buy products they see on TikTok
TikTok can make the most mundane product go viral
TikTok ads shouldn’t really be ads at all
Authenticity wins
TikTok is evolving into something like Home Shopping Network or QVC
TikTok is the new Google for millions of young people

Feb 6, 2023 • 23min
How to pick an MMP in 2023, with Matej Lancaric
How do you pick the right MMP? Are there major differences between MMPs? Do you even need a mobile measurement partner in the age of SKAN and (soon) Privacy Sandbox on Android?
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, we chat with UA expert and consultant Matej Lancaric about the evolving role of MMPs and things to look for when you need one.
(And yes, we also chat about when you need to get an MMP.)

Feb 1, 2023 • 22min
Cockroach apps: growing when budgets are low, with Lomit Patel
Whole generations of mobile marketers have cut their teeth on growth in the grand old times of (nearly) free money from venture capitalists, resulting in huge budgets that could be deployed and deterministically measured. Those times are over, so how do you grow when growth is hard? You become a cockroach app.
Cockroach apps survive the nuclear apocalypse when nothing else does because they focus on the fundamentals, says Tynker chief growth officer Lomit Patel.
“If you look at the past 5, 6, 7 years, there was such an over-index emphasis on growth at all costs, right?” Patel, who is the former VP for growth at IMVU and led direct marketing at Roku, says. “It was really cheap to get money at that time, especially in startups. So it was really about just buying your way to growing as quickly as possible.”
So what do you do?
Well, for starters, listen to (or watch) this episode of Growth Masterminds, brought to you by Singular.

Jan 25, 2023 • 21min
Location-based gaming beyond Pokemon Go, with Atlas Reality
Where is location-based gaming right now? Pokemon Go is a massive hit, and Niantic is trying to follow it up with NBA All World, but what else is happening?
And, are we going to turn the world into a laser tag theme park?
In this episode of Growth Masterminds we chat with Beau Button, the president and CTO of Atlas Reality. Button is making a location-based game with play-to-earn mechanics that incorporates web3 thinking without blockchain.
We also chat about growth, user acquisition, and much more ...

Jan 4, 2023 • 40min
Streaming deep dive with M&C Saatchi's Guillaume Lelait: CTV growth, leaders, ads, and future
CTV. OTT. Streaming media. Connected TV. Whatever you want to call it, there's a huge amount of growth in CTV.
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, we chat with Guillaume Lelait, managing director Americas at M&C Saatchi Performance about the growth to date, future growth, and advertiser opportunities in CTV.
Along the way, we hit the biggest players, the industry structure, how advertisers are structuring calls to action, and how to measure ad impact and results on connected TV. Players we chat about include Disney+Netflix, HBO Max, YouTube TV, Roku, Amazon Prime Video, Apple, Hulu, Crackle, and more ...

Nov 18, 2022 • 43min
Growth hacking web3: "a beautiful moment of a bear market"
How do you build web3 in 2023, after the boom and after the bust?
In this Growth Masterminds host John Koetsier chats with Dan Reynolds from First Light Games, Jon Hook, the CMO of PlayEmber, and Quinn Campbell, the VP Growth at Sky Mavis, makers of Axie Infinity.
After the hype, after the Discord and Telegram, after the influencers ... where do you go for growth? And what is the emerging web3 growth stack?
We chat about:
- new web3 growth strategies
- old web2 growth strategies
- wallet relationship management
- web3 attribution
- and different kinds of users/owners/players in web3 environments

Nov 7, 2022 • 33min
Doubling retention to grow faster: Storyly VP Daniele Di Nunzio
Mobile user acquisition is great. But for many apps it's not the problem.
The problem: most apps’ retention rates are the bad news. If your app is a leaky bucket, pouring users out as fast as you dump them in, you're wasting tons of marketing dollars.
But what if you could double retention, 2Xing standard industry mobile app user retention rates? How would that change your UA strategy?
In this Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier chats with Storyly VP Daniele di Nunzio. Storyly works with McDonalds, Domino’s, SoulCycle, and many more brands to drive deep user engagement.
And, of course, to improve in-app user retention.

Nov 1, 2022 • 56min
SKAdNetwork 4: introduction, overview, questions answered
Apple just released SKAdNetwork 4, or SKAN 4. In this special episode of Growth Masterminds, Singular CEO Gadi Eliashiv walks us through all the details released so far AND, crucially, what they mean for mobile marketers on iOS.
More postbacks - good!
More complexity - true.
More opportunity - also true.
Gadi and host John Koetsier chat about SKAdNetwork version 4's new postbacks, new lockable conversions, new random timer delays for postbacks 2 and 3, and how Apple's crowd anonymity works.
They then take questions from a LinkedIn Live audience on what this all means, how it will all work, and how the ecosystem will adjust, adapt, and implement everything in SKAN 4.

Oct 14, 2022 • 32min
Unity's gaming report: Pong, multiplayer monetization, & ironSource with Unity CEO John Riccitiello
In this crosspost from the TechFirst podcast, we chat with Unity CEO John Riccitiello about Unity's latest gaming report.
Riccitiello talks about monetization of multiplayer games, which have much higher paying player rates than just about any other kind of games or apps. We also chat about the ironSource acquisition, the first game he played, and how he sees the metaverse evolving.
In addition, we touch on 2022: what's happening now after 2 years of explosion in the global gaming industry.