

Asia Tech Podcast
Michael Waitze Media
All Things Asia, All Things Tech
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Feb 19, 2022 • 33min
EP 180 - William Li - CEO of Akulaku - They're Punished Because They're Poor
The Asia Tech Podcast hosted William Li, the CEO of Akulaku, which recently announced a $100MM investment from Thailand's Siam Commercial Bank. Akulaku is a digital finance platform that includes credit and e-commerce, wealth management, and digital banking (via Bank Neo Commerce).
Some of the topics that William covered:
The founding of Akulaku as an outgrowth of a remittance business in Hong Kong
Built the remittance business for the overseas workers of the Philippines, Indonesia, and Bangladesh
Training as a lawyer
Getting a Master's Degree at Washington and Lee
Getting exposure to many businesses as part of the investment team at Ping An
Entrepreneurship was not a natural path
The vision of Akulaku and how it evolved
The realization that affordable and accessible financial services can help a lot of people
Pivoting from a remittance business to a lending business when they had very little cash left
Acquiring a bank in Indonesia and completely restructuring it
Lebron James or Steph Curry as a model for business
Other titles we considered for this episode:
It's Really a Giant Leap
Go Deep Also Means Go Big
People Who Believe In Data and Machine Learning Finally Win

Feb 15, 2022 • 34min
EP 179 - Jakob Angele - CEO APAC at foodpanda - It’s Such a Complicated Optimization Problem
The Asia Tech Podcast really appreciated the conversation we had with Jakob Angele, the CEO APAC at foodpanda. Jakob has been with foodpanda since its earliest days and his insights reflect a deeply embedded knowledge of the company. You can tell in his voice that he really cares about this company and its mission.
Some of the topics Jakob discussed:
Studying physics at university
Working at McKinsey & Company and what it taught him about management
Decision Making, Stakeholder Management, Conceptual Frameworks, Perfectionism, and Clean Communication
The pros and cons of moving to a startup from a consulting company
Joining foodpanda during its earliest days (when no investor wanted to invest)
How the foodpanda business model is very technology-intensive
Business growth was slow at the beginning as consumers and restaurants did not see the value
Getting purchased by Delivery Hero in 2016
Managing through hyper-growth
Southeast Asia's regional diversity and market inconsistencies
Hyper-localization in Asia and hyper-decentralized management
Other titles we considered for this episode:
It's Like a Very Fragile System
The First Thing You Always Do Is Prioritize
You Have a Fire In the Opposite Corner of the Room
We Can Still Run Lightning Fast
The Willingness To Make Decisions Fast
How Can We Help Develop the Ecosystem?
Everybody Consumes Food 120 Times Per Month

Feb 11, 2022 • 39min
EP 178 - Denise Kee - CEO at Xtremax - The Reporter and the Salesperson Are Quite Similar
Denise Kee seems to look at life through a very positive lens. The conversation Asia Tech Podcast had with her was no different. We smiled a lot during our chat...and I got the sense that her positive attitude also spills over into the culture that has been built at Xtremax, where Denise is the CEO.
Some of the topics that Denise discussed:
Worked as a journalist for Reuters and Bloomberg
Earned a Master's Degree in Journalism from Northwestern University
Xtremax was founded by her now-husband, James Leong, in 2003
Innovative ways to solve tech-talent hiring in Singapore
Finally joining James at Xtremax as Creative Director
Initially focused on usability and user experience
Her sales philosophy
The team's first experience with AWS - a playground to build things in the cloud
Solving a large and complicated problem for the Government of Singapore
Throwing away their own servers and moving everything to the cloud
Other titles we considered for this episode:
We Like to Fact-check
Life Is Really About Experience
What Is the Core Problem They Are Trying to Solve?
I Know How to Ask Questions
Everyone's Going to the Cloud
Feeling the Vibrations Before Everyone Else
The Whole Cloud Is API-Driven
When It’s API-Driven, Magic Can Happen
Rainy Days Are My Favorite

Feb 8, 2022 • 43min
EP 177 - Wouter Delbaere - CEO at Mangtas - Our Vendors Are Our Product
Wouter Delbaere, a co-Founder and the CEO at Mangtas, was such a great guest. With a world of experience and a very unique background, it was a pleasure to have him as a guest on the Asia Tech Podcast. As a business services platform, Mangtas aims to make business outsourcing available for all.
Some of the topics that Wouter and I discussed:
Being born in Congo and growing up in 10 different countries
Witnessing genocide in Rwanda
How playing team sports can help one integrate into almost any geography
His most formative years were on Negros Island in the Philippines
Being fluent in Cebuano
Starting Mangtas in the middle of the pandemic
Making Mangtas an equal-opportunity platform and why this is important
The necessity of having reviews linked to specific project deliverables
Outsourcing via strategic partnerships for the long-term
Gathering data to help service providers and clients make better decisions
Some things I got wrong or could not remember during this episode:
Shenzen's population growth statistics
The league in which the New York Cosmos played
Some other titles we considered:
It's a Universal Language
There Are Several Layers To This
A Lot of Projects Fail Because the Clients Are Not Ready
We Set Ourselves Up as an Ecosystem
We Love Nothing More Than Third-Party Integration

Feb 1, 2022 • 1h 1min
EP 176 - Geir Windsvoll - co-Founder Panya Studios - How Will These Economies Start to Interact?
The Asia Tech Podcast really appreciated having Geir Windsvoll sit with us in the studio at True Digital Park. Geir is a Founding Partner of Santora Nakama and a co-Founder and the CEO of Panya Studios. Panya Studios is a Web 3.0 studio building P2P Games, Live Shopping for the metaverse, and other projects leveraging unique assets. Geir is also one of the most thoughtful entrepreneurs that I have met.
Some of the topics that we covered:
Raising funds while in an apartment and then from the beach during the early part of the pandemic
Actually going back to the same island where he originally lived in Thailand 14 years ago
Finally moving back to Koh Pha Ngan
The island has become very international with a big blockchain emphasis
Why he believes there is a huge opportunity for Thailand to build remote ecosystems
ICOs, CryptoKitties and the birth of NFTs
The rise and fall of Panya's original trivia show
Using gamification to pivot to live shopping
Diving deeper into Non-Fungible Tokens and how they change the game for Web 3.0
Cultural literacy and cultural inclusion
Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs)
Other titles we considered for this episode:
Fast and Painful Years
You Don’t Need to Have That On Your Bucket List
I Feel Like I Am Home Again
We Thought It Would Be Easy
Am I Really That Bad At Explaining Things?
Content Is Still King
Can We Just Change the Strategy?

Jan 29, 2022 • 44min
EP 175 - Christina Sok - Founder and CEO of ClassBubs - It Was Motherhood That Led Me to ClassBubs
The Asia Tech Podcast was joined by Christina Sok, the Founder, and CEO of ClassBubs. ClassBubs helps parents to discover, book and review kids' extracurricular classes.
Some of the topics that Christina discussed:
Born in South Korea but growing up all over the world
Finished her secondary schooling at UWC in Singapore
Knowing as a teenager that she was not built to work for anybody else
What she learned from her art gallery internship
Always wanted to challenge the status quo
How her parents were non-traditional in their approach to her education
Learning as something enjoyable and fun
The discipline she developed while being self-employed helped in the startup world
Was searching for activities for her daughter and realized just how fragmented that market was
The opportunity to talk about the holistic development of kids
The development of ClassBubs and the potential for creating in-house content and programs
The kind of role model she wants to be for her daughter
Other titles we considered for this episode:
Tuesday to Thursday Was Just a Blur
It’s About Building a Life
You Don’t Just Land at the Top
Dots Do Connect Looking Back
North or South Korea?
How Do You Get the “Me Time” Without the “Mom Guilt”?

Jan 25, 2022 • 38min
EP 174 - Upasna Dash - Founder & CEO of Jajabor Brand Consultancy - I Fell In Love With the Chaos
The Asia Tech Podcast had so much fun talking to Upasna Dash, the Founder, and CEO of Jajabor Brand Consultancy and the VP of Startup India Advisory Services.
Some of the topics that Upasna covered:
Bringing out stories and having an impact
Employing stories and storytelling to help founders meet their business needs
Great ideas and innovations are not epiphanies
The name of her company was inspired by her grandfather's favorite song
Born into a non-English speaking city, struggled to keep up at school
Her grandfather inspired her to learn English by reading her Shakespeare
Remembers specifically the day she fell in love with startups
Following the audience and story wherever it takes you
Why authenticity matters
From idea to execution, so much can change
The similarities between great founders and great athletes
Understanding the value of great teams
The intensely competitive nature of the Indian startup space
Other titles we considered for this episode:
I Am a Storyteller at Heart
I Sang About It and Transported You There
I Grew Up with the Startup Ecosystem in India
You Can’t Put India In a Box
The Journey Is as Enjoyable as the Destination
Small Micro-habits Actually Make a Huge Difference
We Should Meet In Immigration Lines More Often

Jan 18, 2022 • 40min
EP 173 - Jostein Aksnes - CEO Seven Peaks Software - Sell From Day One
The Asia Tech Podcast was visited by Jostein Aksnes, the CEO of Seven Peaks Software and the CEO of Property Flow. Like a lot of my expatriate friends, Jostein agreed to a one-year assignment and shows no signs of leaving Thailand.
Some of the topics Jostein covered:
Studied computer engineering
Got his first job as a software developer at a broadcast technology company
Managed and built real-time graphics and production systems
Getting promoted and expatriated to Thailand
Has now lived in Thailand since 2010
Building and managing remote or extension teams
Some of the challenges and solutions when the head office is on another continent
Building FindYourSpace which morphed into Property Flow
Diving deep into Seven Peaks
The evolution of software development
Microservices and the Cloud
The validated learning loop
Building great user experiences
Selling solutions to problems
Other titles we considered for this episode:
I Want to Build a Website
Trying to Build What They Need, Not What They Want
The Commercial Model Is Not Agile
Don’t Spend Two Years Building a Product
Nobody Buys a Product

Jan 14, 2022 • 38min
EP 172 - Adam Simon - US Head of Innovation at UM Worldwide - So Much of Our Daily Life Has Become About Media Production
The Asia Tech Podcast had a blast talking to Adam Simon, the US Head of Innovation at UM Worldwide. UM Worldwide is a strategic media planning agency that operates in more than 100 countries. Adam is focused on the intersection of emerging technology and changing consumer behavior.
Some of the topics that Adam discussed:
Originally working in the theatre
Yet was always interested in technology
Attended an innovative graduate program at NYU focused on creative technology
How technology and media are disrupting existing businesses
The speed at which platform technology changes and helping clients adapt
The expansion of content creation beyond those who think of themselves as creators
Global culture and global distribution
Content localization
The impact of streaming services on content creators
Media and the evolving metaverse
Turning anything into shoppable media
Other titles we considered for this episode:
Sometimes You Just End Up In It
Constant, Accelerating Change
They Don't Have to Be Mutually Exclusive
I Think About It as Presence
There Are Probably 7 Year Olds On Roblox Making More Money Than Me

Jan 11, 2022 • 29min
EP 171 - Kasia Leyden - VP of Marketing for PayPal International - Taking That Burden Away from Them
In the context of PayPal launching the results of a 2021 survey of 210 online small and medium-sized businesses (SMBs) in Singapore, to learn about their experience and how they survived and thrived through the pandemic, Asia Tech Podcast had a super conversation with Kasia Leyden, the VP of Marketing for PayPal International. Kasia covered a lot of ground and gave her insights on the results of this survey.
We also discussed:
Kasia being a true global citizen and how it has made her more resilient and empathetic
Growing up all over the world was great 'training' for her current role
The trend of digital transformation reaching SMBs in Singapore and around the region
Not just in the B2C space but in the B2B space as well
Social media and social selling as the focus and entry point for going online for SMBs
The importance of 'brand' as a connection to customers
Market expansion and cross-border trade
How increased payment options build trust and enhance conversions
Other titles we considered for this episode:
A Very Specific Market-level Nuance
The World Has Gone Online
Meet the Customer Where They Are
Is That Your Primary Channel?
It’s Not Just about a Storefront
Dynamic, Intimate and Connected
A Beacon of Trust
I Have an Instant Global Business
Feeling Really Optimistic and Excited