The Best SEO Podcast: Defining the Future of Search with LLM Visibility™

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Dec 29, 2025 • 43min

Why You Need Human Oversight For AI-Based Marketing With Anthony Chiaravallo

We unpack how AI reshapes performance marketing and why strategy, clean data, and human oversight matter more than ever. We share a full-funnel, dayparted approach for B2B, show what creative works now, and outline fixes that quickly lift ROAS.• AI tools accelerating media operations while requiring human strategy• Risks of automation with bad data and weak tracking• Buyer shifts beyond Google and the rise of YouTube, TikTok, CTV and podcasts• Dayparted omnichannel plan from commute to desktop to couch• Short-form video and UGC outperforming static creative• Full-funnel investment timelines and influenced revenue measurement• Cleaning fragmented data and feeding CRM segments back into media• Common account fixes including target CPA, remarketing and limiting AI expansion• How to audit paid media and set realistic expectationsGuest Contact Information: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/anthonychiaravalloWebsite: anthonychiaravallo.comMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Dec 22, 2025 • 47min

From Silos To Revenue With Luis Baez

We explore how to align sales, marketing, and operations so growth becomes predictable, not chaotic. Luis Baez shares practical frameworks to productize services, unify data, and raise conversion rates in a world where buyers consult AI before they call you.• breaking silos between sales, marketing and ops• why unified data beats dueling spreadsheets• shifting websites to knowledge bases for LLM era• productizing services into a signature method• pricing to outcomes and standardizing delivery• sprinting to validate offers before scaling• improving microconversions across the funnel• practical tech stack and revenue intelligence tools• managing AI anxiety and proving value with quick wins• human connection as a competitive advantageGuest Contact Information: Website: luisbaez.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/baezluisYouTube: youtube.com/@unhustlingMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Dec 15, 2025 • 41min

LLM Visibility Meets E‑Commerce Email With Nikita Vakhrushev

We explore how buying decisions now pivot inside large language models and why e‑commerce brands must earn trust through proof, consistency, and email systems that never sleep. Nikita shares practical frameworks for list growth, deliverability, and flows that convert.• LLM visibility as a new trust signal• Post‑discovery research inside ChatGPT• Rising skepticism and the need for social proof• E‑commerce maturity from hacks to systems• Small brands out‑innovating slower incumbents• Case study of at‑home aligners capturing demand• Building an email list with pop‑ups and content• Essential automations across the customer journey• Deliverability safeguards and sunsetting strategyGuest Contact Information: Website: aspektagency.comInstagram: instagram.com/nikitavakhrushvLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nikita-vTwitter/X: x.com/nikitavakhrushvYouTube: youtube.com/NikitaVakhrushevTV⁩More from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Dec 8, 2025 • 60min

Guardrails For Your Online Brand With Paige Donnell

We explore how digital PR, entity SEO, and shifting social algorithms shape reputation, discovery, and trust. Paige Donald explains why coherent signals across platforms now drive both reporter interest and AI overviews, and how to play the long game without chasing vanity metrics.• personal speech risk and employer brand alignment• entity identity across profiles and the knowledge graph• echo chambers, LinkedIn’s niche pivot, and Reddit research• newsjacking with intent vs vanity metrics• LLM visibility, AI overviews, and third‑party authority• long‑game PR, reporter relationships, and useful measurement• analytics gaps and mapping content to real demand• trust recession and multi‑channel credibility• media training for executives and scalable video content• agile startups outpacing legacy brands onlineGuest Contact Information: Website: paigepr.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/paigeprMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Dec 1, 2025 • 53min

From Podcasting To AI: Building Real Audiences That Convert With Chris Krimitsos

Matthew Bertram and Chris Krimitsos dive into how creators and brands can grow faster together amid an AI content surge, with real case studies from Podfest and beyond. We map a practical playbook: entity SEO, the 7-11-4 rule, a clip-first workflow, and partnership models that beat CPMs.• creator economy trends and the shift to video• long form for trust, shorts for discovery• entity SEO, consistent handles and domains• the 7-11-4 rule for brand familiarity• platform economics with YouTube as home base• partnership deals beyond CPMs and MGs• measuring hidden ROI and affiliate leakage• NIL, rights and repurposing content• brand control vs creator authenticity• B2B adoption steps, timelines and testsGuest Contact Information: Website: chriskrimitsos.comInstagram: instagram.com/chriskrimitsosFacebook: facebook.com/chriskrimitsosX: x.com/chriskrimitsosMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Nov 24, 2025 • 46min

How To Use AI Without Getting Deindexed With Jon Gillham

Matthew Bertram and Jon Gillham unpack how AI content, plagiarism risk, and Google’s crackdowns reshape SEO, then lay out guardrails that protect rankings while building real LLM visibility. The focus stays on practical governance, provenance checks, entity health, and adding value beyond words.• Rebrand context and why AI integrity matters• Study showing AI overviews citing AI content• Risks of synthetic data and value of human signals• School and workplace guardrails for AI use• Google’s stance on helpful content vs scaled abuse• Penalty patterns, core updates, and indexing lags• Plagiarism trends, fair use thresholds, and QA checks• LLM visibility strategy and entity consolidation• Editorial workflows to detect copy‑paste AI• Actionable playbook for responsible AI adoptionGuest Contact Information: Website: originality.aiLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jon-gillhamMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Nov 17, 2025 • 49min

Pairing SEO With Automation With Steven Werley

We reframe SEO for an AI-first world and show how agentic workflows turn messy sales processes into predictable follow-through. Matthew Bertram and Stephen Werley discuss how to map the stack, from transcripts and enrichment to Slack-driven next actions that recover hidden revenue.• rebrand to Best SEO Podcast and new AI-derived book• why LLMs matter for analysis, decks, and feedback• custom GPTs tuned with domain knowledge• building automations in n8n, Make, ClickUp, and HighLevel• human in the loop as the quality guardrail• data enrichment with RB2B and Clay for true personalization• marketing, RevOps, and agent orchestration converge• LLM visibility certification and next stepsGuest Contact Information: Website: stevenwerley.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stevenwerleyInstagram: instagram.com/stevewerleyFacebook: facebook.com/steven.werleyMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Nov 10, 2025 • 1h

Building An AI Layer For B2B Commerce And Search With Rob Neumann

Matthew Bertram brings Rob Neumann on to map how private LLMs, PIM/DAM, and AI-driven search turn messy B2B catalogs into findable, persuasive product experiences that convert. We push leaders to move now on the LLM land grab, unify entities, and align teams to become AI first.• unifying brand, author, and entity signals for clarity• why every business needs an e-commerce path• findability before conversion and product page SEO• persona-based descriptions with private LLMs• PIM/DAM as the enrichment layer above ERP• AI search for exact matches and smart substitutes• channel-aware inventory and safety stock reduction• SKU and vendor normalization for white label margin• CAD, specs, and E‑E‑A‑T for trust and rankings• email fatigue, SMS prompts, and postcard nudges• urgency of the LLM land grab and authority hardeningGuest Contact Information: Website: robneumann.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/robertneumannMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Nov 3, 2025 • 49min

AI-First Marketing For A Legacy Industry With Renaud Delaquis

We explore how an AI-first approach transforms a legacy driving school’s marketing, operations, and hiring while keeping focus on real-world outcomes. The big shift: recruiting becomes the growth engine, and local presence beats AI search for demand.• AI scheduling reduces travel time and increases daily lessons• Local marketing at scale through AI-powered research and print assets• Measuring lift via brand queries, CTR, utilization, and 10th-grade share• Nine test markets to validate and replicate winning tactics• Recruiting treated as marketing, led by clear personas• Retired educators deliver better training and higher lesson counts• Partnerships with online course leaders instead of head-to-head SEO• Focus on physical-service moat and first-principles metrics• Practical AI use: small daily wins over big-bang changesGuest Contact Information: Website: coastlineacademy.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/renaud-delaquisMore from EWR and Matthew:Leave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show
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Oct 27, 2025 • 39min

Visibility Beats Visits: Rethinking Marketing For The LLM Era With Lindsay Halsey

We explore how SEO is evolving into a broader visibility strategy that spans AI overviews, chat tools, and omnichannel marketing. Lindsay Halsey shares client-ready frameworks for education, measurement, and execution that turn complexity into clear next steps.• shift from sessions to visibility and share of voice• client education using visuals and live data reviews• GA4 custom channel for AI tool referrals• AI overview tracking and imperfect but useful signals• LLMs.txt and crawl access considerations• content that shows human expertise and authorship• aligning CTAs to intent to boost conversions• redistributing effort from top-of-funnel to mid-funnel• omnichannel support including paid social and PR• audience research and journey mapping to guide strategy• practical plan: what, why, how, when cadenceGuest Contact Information: Website:  pathfinderseo.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lindsay-halseyMore from EWR and MatthewLeave us a review wherever you listen: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Amazon PodcastFree SEO Consultation: www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callWith over 5 million downloads, The Best SEO Podcast has been the go-to show for digital marketers, business owners, and entrepreneurs wanting real-world strategies to grow online. Now, host Matthew Bertram — creator of LLM Visibility™ and the LLM Visibility Stack™, and Lead Strategist at EWR Digital — takes the conversation beyond traditional SEO into the AI era of discoverability. Each week, Matthew dives into the tactics, frameworks, and insights that matter most in a world where search engines, large language models, and answer engines are reshaping how people find, trust, and choose businesses. From SEO and AI-driven marketing to executive-level growth strategy, you’ll hear expert interviews, deep-dive discussions, and actionable strategies to help you stay ahead of the curve. Find more episodes here: youtube.com/@BestSEOPodcastbestseopodcast.combestseopodcast.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastConnect With Matthew Bertram: Website: www.matthewbertram.comInstagram: @matt_bertram_liveLinkedIn: @mattbertramlivePowered by: ewrdigital.comSupport the show

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