

Truce - History of the Christian Church
Chris Staron
Truce explores the history of the evangelical church in America, from fundamentalism to pyramid schemes to political campaigns. Host Chris Staron uses journalistic tools to investigate how the church got here and how it can do better.The current season follows the rise of the Religious Right, examining the link between evangelicals and the Republican Party. Featuring special guests like Rick Perlstein, Frances Fitzgerald, Jesse Eisinger, Daniel K. Williams, and more.
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Jul 29, 2025 • 32min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Segregation Academies (part 1)
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Update: I would like to apologize for an error I made in the original version of this story. I stated that tuition payments to private schools are tax-exempt on the federal level. They are not. They sometimes are on the state level. The episode has been edited to reflect the correct information.
When Brown v. Board of Education passed the Supreme Court in 1954, segregationists stepped up their efforts to keep black children out of their schools. If they couldn't use public schools, they'd establish their own private academies.
In the 60's the Supreme Court struck down mandatory Bible reading and prayer in schools, causing some Christians to establish private Christian schools. This movement had unfortunate timing in that it lined up with the segregation academy movement. To our shame, many Protestant schools were segregation academies.
But this story isn't so easy. In this episode and the next, we'll explore the strange twists and turns of the private school movements of the 1960s and 70s. They illustrate just how tangled evangelicals are with schools, taxes, and racism.
Sources:
In Search of Another Country by Joseph Crespino
Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
The Evangelicals by Frances Fitzgerald
Article on Jeffersonian Ideology
The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro (especially books 1 and 2)
Oyez.org article about the McCullum Case
Interview with Austin Steelman, professor at Clemson University
Oyez.org article about the Plessy case
Oyez.org article about Brown v. Board
Department of Labor article about the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Oyez.org article about the Green case
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Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 13min
Scopes Monkey Trial - 100 Year Anniversay
In this engaging discussion, Edward Larson, a Pepperdine professor and Pulitzer Prize-winning author of 'Summer for the Gods', unpacks the complexities of the Scopes Monkey Trial. He explores how a small Tennessee town orchestrated the trial as a publicity stunt, attracting national attention and pitting science against biblical teachings. Larson reveals the true motivations of key players like Scopes, Bryan, and Darrow while examining the trial's long-lasting impacts on American culture and fundamentalism. This conversation sheds light on the evolving relationship between faith and science.

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Jul 15, 2025 • 51min
Republicans and Evangelicals I The Late Great Planet Earth
Ray McDaniel, pastor of First Baptist Church in Jackson, WY, shares insights on the impact of Hal Lindsey's 'The Late Great Planet Earth,' discussing its apocalyptic themes and false prophecies. Melvin Benson, host of the Cinematic Doctrine podcast, analyzes how film influences evangelical culture, exploring the role of representation in media. They dive into the historical context of evangelicalism and politics, the cultural implications of the book and movie, and the significance of Israel's revival in biblical prophecy, highlighting the intersection of faith and fear.

Jul 1, 2025 • 55min
The Camino del Norte part 2
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In the last episode, Chris and his brother Nick started their journey along the Camino del Norte, part of the Camino de Santiago in northern Spain. Now, join Chris as he looks at some of the forces on pilgrims hiking the trail. From the Twelve Tribes religious group and their Yellow Deli restaurants to a spiritual guru in Guemes, people are trying to leverage hikers. Despite this being a Catholic pilgrimage, most of the people we've met on three hikes have not been people of faith. Why is that?
In this bonus episode, Chris hopes to restore your faith in humanity and encourage you to listen to those around you. Jesus died for our sins, but if we're not out there telling people, how will they know? Get out there and be the Church!
Sources:
The Twelve Tribe's document on the Confederate South
Interesting article about the Yellow Deli
Guemes albergue's official website about Ernesto
Discussion Questions:
Why are there so many forces trying to reach pilgrims?
Are you open to reaching spiritual pilgrims around you?
If you were on the hike, what would you say to people who think all religions are the same?
What are some simple graces that you've seen in your life?
How can you be the Church to your community?
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Jun 17, 2025 • 51min
The Camino del Norte part 1
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On this bonus episode, Chris takes you along with him as he hiked 250 miles on an old Catholic pilgrimage route called the Camino de Santiago.
The Camino has a complex history and is actually comprised of more than one trail. The Norte, the oldest (if you take the Primativo), is along the northern coast, the Frances runs east-west through the middle, and the Portuguese routes are north-south from Lisbon to Santiago. You can walk from Turkey following a Camino, or from France. There are webs of them all across Europe. Many lead to the bustling city of Santiago de Compostela in the west of Spain. With lots of tourist traffic, ice cream shops, restaurants, and lodging that caters to pilgrims. The trails converge on a large square and a giant cathedral. This cathedral, started in 1078, as legend has it, is the resting place for the bones of Saint James, one of Jesus' apostles. If you approach the altar, you'll find a door to the right down a set of stairs. Inside, you can see a silver box containing the relics.
Pilgrims have travelled there for over a thousand years. Some for religious purposes, others as criminals who were forced to walk as part of their sentence, a journey that could take years, and claimed the lives of many. Others hiked to absolve their sins, something Pope Calixtus II declared could happen if they did it in a year where St. James' Day fell on a Sunday. In the 12th and 13th centuries, as many as a quarter of a million pilgrims made one of these journeys. Today, these routes are experiencing a renaissance. As hundreds of thousands more walk for their own reasons. To the chagrin of seasoned hikers who think the routes are too crowded.
In this two-part series, you'll hear Chris and his brother Nick as they talk with people about the Camino, as they share Jesus with people, and find their way on this ancient route.
Any packing list is going to be incomplete, because everyone likes their own things! But you REALLY should consider keeping it light. You will have more fun and fewer injuries if your pack stays light.
Rain poncho
2 x hiking shirts
1 x hiking pants
1 x hiking shorts
mini toiletries
shoes (already broken in)
hiking poles
a broad-brimmed hat
app with maps and GPS (we like Camino Ways)
sun glasses
journal and pens
plastic bags for dry stuff
light jacket
2 x hiking socks (I like the dual-layered kind)
a small bottle of sunscreen
cash (at least 3--400 euros) because not all albergues take cards
medicines
water bottles
a tennis ball (to massage your tired feet!)
and more!
Sources:
https://caminoways.com/the-history-of-the-camino-de-santiago
Whaling museum
Discussion Questions:
What leads people to hike a long trail?
Would you ever hike a pilgrimage route?
Why do so many people have difficulty with the Christian Church that they would go on a pilgrimage route without being religious?
How do you interact with strangers? Are you ever in places where you can meet them?
Could you share the gospel with a stranger if you had the opportunity?
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Jun 3, 2025 • 31min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Boardroom Jacobins
Give to help Chris make Truce. A little goes a long way!In November of 1965, a young lawyer published a book called Unsafe at Any Speed about the dangers of driving a Chevy Corvair. The car could become unstable and possibly flip if driven in poor conditions or without proper training. The lawyer? Ralph Nader.It took a while for the book to find its audience, but soon it was on bookshelves across the US and made a celebrity our of Nader. Soon he and his "Nader's Raiders" were on a spree, advocating for consumer safety.This movement was met with skepticism and fear in the industrial community. Who did this guy think he was? Americans didn't need "big government" looking over their shoulders! Well, that's what big corporate leaders thought. They set out to dismantle the consumer safety movement and to convince conservative religious people that safety was actually creeping government interference.My special guest for this episode is Rick Perlstein, author of The Invisible Bridge and Reaganland.Sources:
Chevy Corvair ad
Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
Road and Track article about the Corvair
Washington Post article about the UAW strike
One Nation Under God by Kevin Kruse
Article with fun pictures from the Ad Council campaigns
Christian Reconstruction by Michael McVicar
Reagan's "I'm From the Government and I'm Here to Help"
Listen, America! by Jerry Falwell p73, paperback, Bantam edition, August 1980
Discussion Questions:
What do you think about the government involvement in the Chevy Corvair?
How has product safety impacted your life?
Is the government small, big, or somewhere in between?
Do you remember Ralph Nader?
Is it okay for big business to use advertising to change American minds about the government and economics?
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May 20, 2025 • 32min
Republicans and Evangelicals I The Failure of Supply-Side Economics
Give to help Chris make TruceGerald Ford's administration was in trouble. The country was experiencing stagflation, where prices were going up but employment was going down. What could he do? He announced his desire to lower taxes. This proposal was met with opposition by... Ronald Reagan. Reagan was worried that these cuts would increase the national debt. Then, just a few years later, Reagan changed his mind.Two major things happened. One was the invention of supply-side economics (also called trickle-down economics) and the other was the tax revolt of the 1970s.Supply-side economics was invented by an economist named Arthur Laffer. His ideas were based on an old concept but with a new twist. Laffer and his friends published their ideas in The Wall Street Journal and shared them with people like Dick Cheney.Author and historian Rick Perlstein joins us for this episode. His books are The Invisible Bridge and Reaganland.Sources:
The Invisible Bridge and Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
NPR story about Laffer's napkin legend
International Inequalities Institute study of supply-side economics
Investopedia article comparing inflation rates
Reagan's "Restore America" speech
Ford Library's documents about Reagan's inaccuracies in his speech
Federal Reserve article about inflation. Here's another
History of COVID stimulus payments
Investopedia article on Keynes
Zombie Economics by John Quiggin
Historical tax bracket rates
Proposition 13 article
Discussion Questions:
What is supply-side economics?
How does it compare to Keynes' ideas?
Does the Bible specify a tax policy?
Where did you first hear about trickle-down economics? Who benefits from it the most?
Rick Perlstein, former President George HW Bush, John Quiggin, and many others say that supply-side economics is bogus. What do you think?
Why might supply-side economics appeal to some evangelicals? To people of the 1970s?
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May 6, 2025 • 44min
Republicans and Evangelicals I The New Right
Give to help Chris continue making TruceA small group of men calling themselves The New Right had a major role to play in bonding some evangelicals to the Republican Party. Yet many Christians don't know who these guys were or how they used money and influence to accomplish their goal.Let's meet the fellas. One was named Paul Weyrich. Weyrich's contribution to the movement is that he knew how to organize people, a skill he learned from watching liberal protests. He was a former radio newsman from Wisconsin, member of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church when he thought the Roman Catholic Church became too liberal. He saw how liberals were organizing in the US and decided to do something similar with conservatives. The goal was to bring together politicians, activists, money, and the press to have a unified front. Organizational skills were his secret weapon.Howard Phillips was a follower of RJ Rushdoony's Christian Reconstruction plan. He gutted the Office of Economic Opportunity for Richard Nixon and then founded a think tank called The Conservative Caucus. He said "we organize discontent" meaning that the New Right used emotional issues to rile up their base.Then there was Richard Viguerie. He was the king of bulk mail. The New Right used his services to advocate for their kind of politicians, for Anita Bryant, and to raise money. His company RAVCO was investigated for fraud.These men and more were vital in bringing some evangelicals into the Republican Party.Our guest today is Rick Perlstein, author of amazing history books like Reaganland and The Invisible Bridge.Sources:
Reaganland and The Invisible Bridge by Rick Perlstein
Mobilizing the Moral Majority: Paul Weyrich and the Creation of a Conservative Coalition, 1968-1988 by Tyler J. Poff pages 22-23
The Evangelicals by Frances Fitzgerald
Weyrich, Memorandum, April 16, 1973, Paul M. Weyrich Scrapbooks. But accessed through Mobilizing the Moral Majority: Paul Weyrich and the Creation of a Conservative Coalition, 1968-1988 by Tyler J. Poff page 18
Christian Reconstruction: RJ Rushdoony and American Religious Conservatism - by Michael McVicar
Memo from Gerald Ford Library
The 1974 Campaign Finance Reform Act
James Robison at the Religious Roundtable
Discussion Questions:
What was meant by "we organize discontent"? Is this a statement Jesus would have made?
Have you ever heard of the New Right guys before?
Google Paul Weyrich and watch videos of him talking. How does he use language to stir fear in others?
Are there issues that politicians can use to push your buttons? What are they? Why?
Why are some evangelicals driven by these push button issues?
How was the New Right able to use issues of sex to steer some evangelicals?
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Apr 22, 2025 • 54min
Bonus: Compelled: A New Song
Give to help make Truce more sustainableThe Compelled podcast is hosted by my friend Paul Hastings. It's a testimony show that walks listeners through people's lives so that we can hear how God continues to set people free through faith in Jesus. This episode is part of an ad-swap that Chris did with Paul to get the word out about Truce, but it also serves as a reminder to us that God is still working in the lives of His people. You can learn more about the Compelled podcast at https://compelledpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 8, 2025 • 27min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Milton Friedman and School Choice (part 2 of 2)
Give to help Chris continue to make TruceMilton Friedman is one of the most important economists of the last hundred years. His ideas were quoted by many evangelical writers in the 1970s and 80s, despite his not being a Christian and few of his ideas being in the Bible. Figures like Jerry Falwell loved the guy. Ronald Reagan adopted many of his ideas, though they disagreed on things like the increasing national debt. Friedman played a major role in the popularization of the school voucher concept. Essentially, some people want to allow parents to have a say in which school their children attend. If they want to take the children to a private school, they believe that the government should give them a certain amount of money that would have gone to the public school and give it to the private one. Those who disagree say that this would defund already underfunded schools. Friedman also believed that teachers should not necessarily be certified and that the free market would weed out the bad ones.Stanford professor Jennifer Burns (author of Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative) returns to help Chris explore this complicated subject.Sources:
Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative by Jennifer Burns
Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
Free to Choose
A helpful Britannica article on Friedman
Listen, America! by Jerry Falwell. Paperback, August 1980 reprint version Bantam edition
Divided We Stand by Marjorie Spruill
Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman
Discussion Questions:
Had you heard of Friedman before this episode?
What are school vouchers?
How could school vouchers be seen by some as a tool of segregation?
What would it mean if parents had to keep track of every teacher their children learned under?
How are schools currently funded in the US? Why does that matter? How are some schools wealthy while others are poor?
What should be the role of wealthy people when it comes to education?
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