

Truce - History of the Christian Church
Chris Staron
Truce explores the history of the evangelical church in America, from fundamentalism to pyramid schemes to political campaigns. Host Chris Staron uses journalistic tools to investigate how the church got here and how it can do better.The current season follows the rise of the Religious Right, examining the link between evangelicals and the Republican Party. Featuring special guests like Rick Perlstein, Frances Fitzgerald, Jesse Eisinger, Daniel K. Williams, and more.
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May 20, 2025 • 32min
Republicans and Evangelicals I The Failure of Supply-Side Economics
Give to help Chris make TruceGerald Ford's administration was in trouble. The country was experiencing stagflation, where prices were going up but employment was going down. What could he do? He announced his desire to lower taxes. This proposal was met with opposition by... Ronald Reagan. Reagan was worried that these cuts would increase the national debt. Then, just a few years later, Reagan changed his mind.Two major things happened. One was the invention of supply-side economics (also called trickle-down economics) and the other was the tax revolt of the 1970s.Supply-side economics was invented by an economist named Arthur Laffer. His ideas were based on an old concept but with a new twist. Laffer and his friends published their ideas in The Wall Street Journal and shared them with people like Dick Cheney.Author and historian Rick Perlstein joins us for this episode. His books are The Invisible Bridge and Reaganland.Sources:
The Invisible Bridge and Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
NPR story about Laffer's napkin legend
International Inequalities Institute study of supply-side economics
Investopedia article comparing inflation rates
Reagan's "Restore America" speech
Ford Library's documents about Reagan's inaccuracies in his speech
Federal Reserve article about inflation. Here's another
History of COVID stimulus payments
Investopedia article on Keynes
Zombie Economics by John Quiggin
Historical tax bracket rates
Proposition 13 article
Discussion Questions:
What is supply-side economics?
How does it compare to Keynes' ideas?
Does the Bible specify a tax policy?
Where did you first hear about trickle-down economics? Who benefits from it the most?
Rick Perlstein, former President George HW Bush, John Quiggin, and many others say that supply-side economics is bogus. What do you think?
Why might supply-side economics appeal to some evangelicals? To people of the 1970s?
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May 6, 2025 • 44min
Republicans and Evangelicals I The New Right
Give to help Chris continue making TruceA small group of men calling themselves The New Right had a major role to play in bonding some evangelicals to the Republican Party. Yet many Christians don't know who these guys were or how they used money and influence to accomplish their goal.Let's meet the fellas. One was named Paul Weyrich. Weyrich's contribution to the movement is that he knew how to organize people, a skill he learned from watching liberal protests. He was a former radio newsman from Wisconsin, member of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church when he thought the Roman Catholic Church became too liberal. He saw how liberals were organizing in the US and decided to do something similar with conservatives. The goal was to bring together politicians, activists, money, and the press to have a unified front. Organizational skills were his secret weapon.Howard Phillips was a follower of RJ Rushdoony's Christian Reconstruction plan. He gutted the Office of Economic Opportunity for Richard Nixon and then founded a think tank called The Conservative Caucus. He said "we organize discontent" meaning that the New Right used emotional issues to rile up their base.Then there was Richard Viguerie. He was the king of bulk mail. The New Right used his services to advocate for their kind of politicians, for Anita Bryant, and to raise money. His company RAVCO was investigated for fraud.These men and more were vital in bringing some evangelicals into the Republican Party.Our guest today is Rick Perlstein, author of amazing history books like Reaganland and The Invisible Bridge.Sources:
Reaganland and The Invisible Bridge by Rick Perlstein
Mobilizing the Moral Majority: Paul Weyrich and the Creation of a Conservative Coalition, 1968-1988 by Tyler J. Poff pages 22-23
The Evangelicals by Frances Fitzgerald
Weyrich, Memorandum, April 16, 1973, Paul M. Weyrich Scrapbooks. But accessed through Mobilizing the Moral Majority: Paul Weyrich and the Creation of a Conservative Coalition, 1968-1988 by Tyler J. Poff page 18
Christian Reconstruction: RJ Rushdoony and American Religious Conservatism - by Michael McVicar
Memo from Gerald Ford Library
The 1974 Campaign Finance Reform Act
James Robison at the Religious Roundtable
Discussion Questions:
What was meant by "we organize discontent"? Is this a statement Jesus would have made?
Have you ever heard of the New Right guys before?
Google Paul Weyrich and watch videos of him talking. How does he use language to stir fear in others?
Are there issues that politicians can use to push your buttons? What are they? Why?
Why are some evangelicals driven by these push button issues?
How was the New Right able to use issues of sex to steer some evangelicals?
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Apr 22, 2025 • 54min
Bonus: Compelled: A New Song
Give to help make Truce more sustainableThe Compelled podcast is hosted by my friend Paul Hastings. It's a testimony show that walks listeners through people's lives so that we can hear how God continues to set people free through faith in Jesus. This episode is part of an ad-swap that Chris did with Paul to get the word out about Truce, but it also serves as a reminder to us that God is still working in the lives of His people. You can learn more about the Compelled podcast at https://compelledpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 8, 2025 • 27min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Milton Friedman and School Choice (part 2 of 2)
Give to help Chris continue to make TruceMilton Friedman is one of the most important economists of the last hundred years. His ideas were quoted by many evangelical writers in the 1970s and 80s, despite his not being a Christian and few of his ideas being in the Bible. Figures like Jerry Falwell loved the guy. Ronald Reagan adopted many of his ideas, though they disagreed on things like the increasing national debt. Friedman played a major role in the popularization of the school voucher concept. Essentially, some people want to allow parents to have a say in which school their children attend. If they want to take the children to a private school, they believe that the government should give them a certain amount of money that would have gone to the public school and give it to the private one. Those who disagree say that this would defund already underfunded schools. Friedman also believed that teachers should not necessarily be certified and that the free market would weed out the bad ones.Stanford professor Jennifer Burns (author of Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative) returns to help Chris explore this complicated subject.Sources:
Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative by Jennifer Burns
Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
Free to Choose
A helpful Britannica article on Friedman
Listen, America! by Jerry Falwell. Paperback, August 1980 reprint version Bantam edition
Divided We Stand by Marjorie Spruill
Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman
Discussion Questions:
Had you heard of Friedman before this episode?
What are school vouchers?
How could school vouchers be seen by some as a tool of segregation?
What would it mean if parents had to keep track of every teacher their children learned under?
How are schools currently funded in the US? Why does that matter? How are some schools wealthy while others are poor?
What should be the role of wealthy people when it comes to education?
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Mar 25, 2025 • 38min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Milton Friedman vs. John Maynard Keynes (1 of 2)
Give to help Chris make TruceMilton Friedman may be the most famous American economist. His research and theories have profoundly shaped the modern American economy. But few of us can clearly articulate what he taught and what it means for our times. Friedman's career was defined by the aftermath of the Great Depression. He worked in the government administering the New Deal, but never really agreed with it. He joined the faculty at the University of Chicago and built a department around him that taught a version of free-market economics known as monetarism. Essentially, monetarism is the idea that inflation is a product of how much money is in circulation. Friedman did not like the Federal Reserve or the gold standard, instead, advocating for a standard 4% increase in the money supply every year that would not be shifted. By setting a rule, he hoped to do away with an entire governmental department.Friedman and his co-authors ventured into areas that other economists thought, perhaps, unwise. They used economics to explain things like marriage and school choice. He was also a proponent of school vouchers.Stanford professor Jennifer Burns joins Chris today to explore the many facets of Milton Friedman. This is the first of two parts.Sources:
Milton Friedman: The Last Conservative by Jennifer Burns
The Years of Lyndon Johnson: The Part to Power by Robert Caro
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/laissez-faire
“Keynesian Economics Theory: Definition and How It's Used” Investopedia article
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2014/article/one-hundred-years-of-price-change-the-consumer-price-index-and-the-american-inflation-experience.htm
Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman
Milton Friedman: A Concise Guide to the Ideas and Influence of the Free-Market Economist by Eamonn Butler
Friedman on the Donahue show in 1979
Discussion Questions:
Had you heard of Friedman before this episode?
If so, what did you know about him?
What does "laissez-faire" mean in economic terms?
Does it line up with the Bible in any direct way?
Why do you think so many conservative Christians lean toward laissez-faire?
How bad was the Great Depression?
If you had worked for the government during the Depression, what would you have advocated?
Why are some people against the New Deal?
What did the New Deal mean to starving people during the Depression?
How does a fear of communism play into anti-New Deal sentiment?
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Mar 11, 2025 • 17min
Republicans and Evangelicals I William F. Buckley v. Ayn Rand and the John Birch Society
Give to help Chris make TruceWilliam F. Buckley Jr. helped change the face of conservatism in the US because he gave it intellectual backing. But that doesn't mean that his ideas were accepted completely. He had several nemesis within his own movement that tried to derail him.One opponent was the John Birch Society. Buckley's whole modus operandi was to make conservatism respectable. But Robert Welch and other members of the JBS were using their movement to spread bogus conspiracy theories. They were actively discrediting the movement that Buckley tried to build. So Buckley, National Review, and Barry Goldwater tried to bring it down.Another enemy was Ayn Rand. Buckley and Rand were libertarians, but they disagreed on something important: religion. Rand was an ardent atheist, while Buckley believed Christianity and conservatism were inseparable. When Buckley started Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) he discovered that his young followers were incorporating many other ideas into their ideology. Rand's writings were impacting the students. So Buckley had to work to expel those ideas from YAF.Libertarian economist Murray Rothbard was another enemy. Rothbard actively encouraged his followers to split YAF and leave the organization.Extremism leads to extremism. Extremism lends itself to ideological purity, which means that groups like YAF were destined to split and split and split again. Buckley has his work cut out for him.Sources
Buckley: William F Buckley Jr. and the Rise of American Conservatism by Carl T. Bogus.
The Rise and Fall of Modern American Conservatism by David Farber
Burning Down the House by Andrew Koppelman
Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus by Rick Perlstein
God and Man at Yale by William F. Buckley Jr
Heather Cox Richardson's YouTube series on the history of the GOP
Hoover Institution article on the impact of Buckley and Firing Line
Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
The Incomparable Mr. Buckley documentary
The Sharon Statement
Discussion Questions:
Extremism leads to extremism. Do you agree?
The desire to keep a movement ideologically pure is not unique to Buckley. Discuss that desire. When is it important and when does it lead to issues?
Rand and Buckley disagreed on the role of religion. Why did that put them at odds?
Why would Murray Rothbard want to split YAF?
Why are youth movements so important to politics? To religion?
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Mar 4, 2025 • 43min
Republicans and Evangelicals I William F. Buckley Jr. and National Review
Give to help Chris continue the Truce Podcast.Senator Robert Taft couldn't get the nomination. He tried to be the GOP's nominee for president three different times but could not get elected. Conservative Republicans' failure to get nominated by their own party was a source of much frustration. What could they do? Concerns of conspiracy spread through people like Phyllis Schlafly whose book A Choice Not an Echo claimed that "elites" were steering the party.It was into this world that a bright young man with an untraceable accent found his appeal. William F. Buckley Jr. was born into a wealthy family that was deeply Catholic and driven by concern over the New Deal. They were libertarians and wanted a small government. Buckley lived a childhood of privilege, riding horses, playing piano, and mostly private education. His first book, God and Man at Yale, was a sharp critique of his alma mater, stating that they should have done a better job promoting laissez-faire economics and religion. The book was a smash hit, in part, because Yale fought its charges in the press.Buckley followed it with a rousing defense of Senator Joseph McCarthy's tactics in the early 1950s, but the book was published just as the senator was revealed to be the demagogue he was. So Buckley decided to shift his effort to creating a journal of opinion that would appeal to conservatives. National Review became the "it" publication for conservatism in the US, and the most successful journal of opinion in the country. Its greatest impact was giving conservatism an intellectual voice in an era when the "liberal consensus" dominated.Buckley then went on to start in the PBS television show Firing Line, a funny thing for a libertarian because the show was sponsored, in part, through government funding. Buckley succeeded in giving conservatism an intellectual voice. In the process, he won his greatest victory: convincing Ronald Reagan to become a conservative.Sources
Buckley: William F Buckley Jr. and the Rise of American Conservatism by Cart T. Bogus.
The Rise and Fall of Modern American Conservatism by David Farber
Burning Down the House by Andrew Koppelman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYgv7ur8ipg&t=3018s Firing Line Episode 113, September 3 1968
Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus by Rick Perlstein
God and Man at Yale by William F. Buckley Jr
Heather Cox Richardson's YouTube series on the history of the GOP
National Review. 1st edition, November 19, 1955. Page 6 (gives a helpful breakdown of what the magazine stands for)
Hoover Institution article on the impact of Buckley and Firing Line
Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
The Incomparable Mr. Buckley documentary
Discussion Questions
Do you have any personal connection with Buckley? Did you see his shows or read his writings?
Why did conservatism need an intellectual voice?
How did conservatism change between Bob Taft and Buckley?
Buckley believed in a limited government, one that incorporated Christianity. Would you like his version of the American government?
Buckley claimed that he wasn't racist, but believed that black people were incapable of governing themselves. That they should earn the right to vote in the South. Is this racism?
National Review welcomed segregationists to write in the journal. Would you read a publication like this?
Buckley advocated for a smaller government but also stared in a TV show on public television. Does this strike you as hypocrisy?
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Feb 18, 2025 • 42min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Barry Goldwater – How Republicans Welcomed Extremism - Part Two
Give a little to help Chris a lotIn the first part of our series, Chris explored the beginning of Barry Goldwater's career, from his early days as a young man to his rise to the Senate. In the second episode, Goldwater still hasn't agreed to be the nominee, even though groups are raising money in his name.One of his most valuable supporters was a woman named Phyllis Schlafly. In 1964 she published a small book, A Choice Not an Echo. It claimed that GOP nominations had been rigged going back many years. She felt burned that Robert Taft (a true conservative) had been avoided over Dwight Eisenhower. Her book earned Goldwater the eventual nomination by his party.At the 1964 GOP convention, Goldwater announced that extremism was a thing he was okay with. While this excited his base, it scared a good many others who were already afraid that he'd use his power to launch nuclear weapons.Lyndon Johnson won that year in the greatest landslide in US presidential history.CORRECTION: The original version of this episode said that LBJ's win in 1964 was bolstered by the Civil Rights Act. Historian Rick Perlstein wrote in to say that he won despite the Civil Rights Act.Sources
Before the Storm by Rick Perlstein.
The Heritage Foundation's claims about Black Lives Matter
JFK's address about the Cuban missile crisis
The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro
LBJ ice cream ad
Rockefeller's speech at the 1964 RNC via C-SPAN
Birchers by Matthew Dallek
Goldwater's speech at the 1964 RNC via C-SPAN
1964 RNC party platform
These Truths by Jill LePore
Goldwater's comments on the Religious Right
Discussion Questions
How did the 1964 Republican platform show a slide to extremism?
Is the argument for "states' rights" inherently racist? How has it been used to back racism?
Why did Goldwater's talk about nuclear weapons make people uneasy?
How did Goldwater's address to the 1964 RNC act as a call to extremists?
Why did Lyndon Johnson win by the largest victory in US presidential history?
Even though he lost dramatically, Goldwater had a big impact. What was it?
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Feb 4, 2025 • 38min
Republicans and Evangelicals I Barry Goldwater – How Republicans Welcomed Extremism - Part One
Give to help Chris continue making TruceBarry Goldwater may be one of the most interesting figures in Republican history. He grew up the son of a wealthy department store owner. He was a city council member and then a senator from Arizona. He was handsome and took pictures with guns and cacti. Goldwater was also a libertarian who wanted a small government and low taxes.His platform was laid out in a ghostwritten book Conscience of a Conservative. L. Brent Bozell wrote the book. He was a member of the John Birch Society. The book advocated for state's rights, though Goldwater argued that he was not a racist. The problem is that the South had long been using state's rights complaints to justify their oppression of black people. So, was Goldwater a racist? He sure as heck did what racists wanted.He also advocated for nuclear weapons in the US, an end to progressive taxation, and strange plans to reduce government spending. He courted extremists, mashing traditional conservatism false conspiracies and bad actors. The Republican Party would eventually bounce back to being an establishment party, but not for long. Many of Goldwater's ideas would be carried out by Reagan just a decade and a half later.CORRECTION: The original version of this episode said that Goldwater served in WWI. It was WWII. Sorry! The error has been corrected.Sources
Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus by Rick Perlstein
The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro. Especially The Passage of Power
Bichers by Matthew Dallek
A Choice Not An Echo by Phyllis Schlafly
Buckley: William F Buckley Jr. and the Rise of American Conservatism by Cart T. Bogus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05MPUsdFyQY The Memory Palace episode 130 “Independence Hall 2: The Legend of Walter Knott”
1964 Republican Party Platform
Heather Cox Richardson's video series on the history of GOP
Questions
What does it mean for someone to be a "conservative"?
How does it impact us when we are tied to organizations like the John Birch Society? How did it impact conservatives?
Discuss the relationship between the state's rights argument and racism.
Was Goldwater a racist?
Many of the people we've covered over the years have been public speakers. Should we take a second pass at vetting our public speakers?
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Jan 21, 2025 • 43min
Republicans and Evangelicals I The John Birch Society (featuring Matthew Dallek)
Give to help Chris make TruceRobert Welch was a candy magnate who invented the Sugar Daddy and sold favorites like Junior Mints and Milk Duds. He was also very anti-communist. His dubious research led him to found the John Birch Society, a group whose mission was to spread conspiracy theories worldwide. They had major support from wealthy men like Fred Koch, father of the Koch brothers (who financed opposition to Obamacare and climate change legislation).Some of their most notable campaigns were those against Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Earl Warren and President Dwight Eisenhower. They claimed that these men were communist sympathizers working behind the scenes to put the communist agenda. Bogus stuff, but they gained thousands of followers across the country. They also fought the income tax, said that black people would not have wanted equality if the communists hadn't taught them to, and argued that the US is a republic and not a democratic republic.Phyllis Schlafly, RJ Rushdoony, Tim LaHaye, and many others had ties to the birchers. This group had a huge influence on the Religious Right! Not to mention shifting the GOP to accept extremists.Our special guest for this episode is Dr. Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George Washington University. His book is Birchers: How the John Birch Society Radicalized the American Right.Sources:
Birchers: How the John Birch Society Radicalized the American Right by Matthew Dallek
Before the Storm by Rick Perlstein
Divided We Stand by Marjorie Spruill
Helpful Guardian article about the Koch brothers and Americans for Prosperity
Christian Reconstruction: RJ Rushdoony and American Religious Conservatism by Michael McVicar
NY Times article about J. Howard Pew's connections to Robert Welch
Dark Money by Jane Mayer
Discussion Questions
What is the John Birch Society?
Was communism a threat to the country in the mid-1900s?
What would have been the proper way to respond to communism?
What is the impact of conspiracy theories on American Christianity?
There are real conspiracies in the US, like those by Donald Trump and his allies to steal the 2020 election. But a lot of Christians don't believe these real conspiracies. How has an abundance of false conspiracies numbed our ability to recognize reality?
Are you surprised Tim LaHaye, Phyllis Schlafly, and RJ Rushdoony were affiliated with the JBS?
How can believers maintain their faith even when evangelical culture has been corrupted?
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