The Kevin Rooke Show

Daniel Buchner is the Head of Decentralized Identity at Block, the company formerly known as Square. In our talk, Daniel helped me understand the concept of identity, why and how identity can be decentralized, and how having self-sovereignty over your identity can change the relationships and the power dynamics between users and the apps we use today. → TBD: https://tbd.website/ → DIF: https://identity.foundation/ Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Highlights & Intro 02:34 - Daniel Buchner Intro 08:38 - Taking Control of Your Public Identifiers 13:39 - Securing Decentralized Identifiers 22:59 - Building a Decentralized Identity Network 25:32 - Block’s Decentralized Identity Work 36:54 - Privacy for DIDs 45:00 - DIDs vs. Slashtags 49:24 - The Process of Developing Open Standards 56:31 - Applications for Decentralized Identity 1:00:07 - Personal Servers 1:03:00 - How Self-Hosting Changes the Relationships Between Apps and Users 1:12:24 - tbDEX 1:20:06 - The Lightning Round

Tom Chojnacki is the founder of Satsback, a platform that helps you save in bitcoin whenever you shop online. In our conversation, Tom and I discussed the concept of Sats back rewards, why consumers love Bitcoin as a form of loyalty points, and the addressable market for retail and e-commerce rewards. →Satsback: https://satsback.com/ Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:05 - Tom Chojnacki Intro 04:15 - Different Types of Satsback Rewards 14:23 - Onboarding New Users to Lightning 19:44 - Can Merchants Instantly Split Payments on Lightning? 28:43 - How Big is the Global Cashback Economy? 46:43 - Sats Back vs. Loyalty Points & Rewards 50:48 - Interesting New Lightning Applications 1:00:07 - The Lightning Round

Sam Walker is a Senior Software Engineer at Strike, and the creator of a new app called Reacher that aims to solve email spam with Lightning payments. In our conversation, Sam and I discussed exactly how Reacher works, how Lightning can eliminate spam all over the internet, and some of the new business models that may emerge on a Lightning-powered internet. → Reacher: https://www.reacher.me/ Today’s show is sponsored by Voltage and ZEBEDEE. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show in the Lightning Round, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:09 - Sam Walker Intro 12:47 - Can Email Paywalls Enable New Email Use Cases? 21:35 - Streaming Bitcoin on Lightning vs. Streaming Dollars on Lightning 26:38 - Web3, Lightning, and the Next Iteration of the Internet 35:31 - Monopolies & Value Capture on Lightning 43:06 - Twitter and the Lightning Network 52:46 - How Will Users Interact with Lightning Apps? 1:00:05 - The Impact of Lightning on Internet vs. Offline Payments 1:09:13 - The Lightning Round

Julie Landrum leads International Strategy & Growth for OpenNode, a Bitcoin payment processor built on the Lightning Network. In our conversation, Julie and I discussed the addressable market for Bitcoin payments, the hidden fees traditional payment processors charge, and the challenge of overcoming the network effect of fiat payment systems. → OpenNode: https://www.opennode.com/ Today’s show is sponsored by Voltage and ZEBEDEE. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show in the Lightning Round, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:17 - Julie Landrum Intro 07:49 - The Addressable Market for Payments & Payouts 15:40 - The Adoption of Lightning In El Salvador 29:09 - Success Metrics for OpenNode 41:24 - Can Lightning Break Down Traditional Payment Rail Network Effects? 53:46 - Merchants on Lightning & Hidden Credit Card Fees 1:18:21 - The Lightning Round

Lyn Alden is an investor and analyst who needs no introduction on this show. In our conversation, Lyn and I discussed her interest in Bitcoin’s Lightning Network, liquidity as a network effect, the impact of stablecoins on Lightning, nation-state Bitcoin adoption, and much more. → Lyn Alden: https://www.lynalden.com/ Today’s show is sponsored by Voltage and ZEBEDEE. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show in the Lightning Round, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:38 - Lyn Alden Intro 08:57 - Lightning & Bitcoin Network Effects 22:02 - Bitcoin as a Unit of Account 28:16 - Stablecoins on Lightning 38:23 - Regulatory Risks for Bitcoin & Lightning 42:36 - Interesting Use Cases for Lightning Payments 59:09 - Nation State Bitcoin Adoption 1:08:58 - The Bear Case for Bitcoin and Lightning 1:22:30 - The Lightning Round

Zero Fee Routing is the pseudonymous operator of one of the world’s largest Lightning Network routing nodes. As the name implies, Zero Fee Routing doesn’t charge fees to route payments, and as a result has become a major hub of Lightning connectivity, routing over 10 BTC of payment volume per day. In our conversation, we discussed their strategy of selling liquidity and routing for free, their decision to move their node from LND to Core Lightning, and the future earning prospects for routing nodes on the network. → Zero Fee Routing Node: https://amboss.space/node/038fe1bd966b5cb0545963490c631eaa1924e2c4c0ea4e7dcb5d4582a1e7f2f1a5 Today’s show is sponsored by Voltage and ZEBEDEE. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show in the Lightning Round, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:28 - Zero Fee Routing Intro 03:47 - Why Zero Fee Routing Doesn’t Charge Routing Fees 09:38 - How Much Bitcoin Should You Allocate to the Lightning Network? 12:43 - Inbound Liquidity Fees on the Lightning Network 16:17 - LND vs. Core Lightning for Routing Nodes 21:31 - Zero Fee Routing’s Transaction Volume 38:53 - Where Should Lightning Node Operators Allocate Capital? 43:27 - Earning Interest on your Bitcoin from Routing on Lightning 51:26 - The Risks of Storing Bitcoin on Lightning 59:34 - Advice for Routing Node Operators 1:08:53 - The Lightning Round

Dennis Reimann is a programmer at BTCPay Server, a self-hosted, open-source Bitcoin payment processor. In our conversation, we discussed how BTCPay Server works and the plug-ins that will be built on top of it, the benefits and drawbacks of Lightning for merchants, and value 4 value as a business model. → BTCPay Server: https://btcpayserver.org/ Today’s show is sponsored by Voltage and ZEBEDEE. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show in the Lightning Round, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:08 - Dennis Reimann Intro 09:10 - Features & Plugins Being Built on BTCPay Server 14:52 - The Challenges Holding Back Bitcoin Merchant Adoption 30:28 - How Will Bitcoin & Lightning Fees Evolve? 36:47 - BTCPay Server’s Foundation & Non-Profit Sustainability 43:14 - Value 4 Value as a Business Model 53:23 - PodServer & Podcasting 2.0 1:08:50 - The Lightning Round

John Cantrell is the pseudonymous creator of Sensei, a lightning node implementation focused on making Bitcoin accessible to the entire world. In our conversation, we discussed exactly what Sensei is, Sensei’s relationship to Spiral’s BDK and LDK, the broader Lightning implementation landscape, and emerging payments use cases that could be built on Lightning. → Sensei: https://l2.technology/sensei Today’s show is sponsored by Voltage and ZEBEDEE. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/ At the end of every show in the Lightning Round, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:07 - John Cantrell Intro 06:35 - Non-Payment Use Cases on Lightning 16:52 - What Is Sensei? 33:06 - Business Models for Lightning Implementations 45:14 - Developers Building on LDK 57:03 - The Impact of Streaming Payments 1:05:16 - Lightning Adoption Successes & Areas for Improvement 1:15:43 - The Lightning Round

Simon is the co-founder of the Mempool Open Source project, an explorer for monitoring Bitcoin transactions, mempool congestion, network fees, and more. In our conversation, we discussed the value of building Mempool as an open-source, self-hosted project, the Liquid Network’s role as a side chain on Bitcoin, peer-to-peer exchanges like Bisq, and the debate around Bitcoin’s transaction fee sustainability. → Mempool: https://mempool.space/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, the industry standard in Lightning Network infrastructure. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node The Lightning Round is the show segment where I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:07 - Simon Intro 03:00 - The Importance of Building Open Source & Self-Hosted Projects 14:41 - The Future of Centralized vs. Self-Hosted Applications 25:57 - The Liquid Network as a Sidechain on Bitcoin 37:31 - Why Haven’t Exchanges Integrated Liquid? 42:00 - Mempool’s Plans to Build a Lightning Explorer 44:33 - Bitcoin’s Mempool & Transaction Fee Sustainability 52:21 - Incentives for Bitcoin Businesses to Move to Lightning & Liquid 56:09 - The Similarities and Differences Between Taro & Liquid 59:45 - The Lightning Round

Stelios Rammos is the co-founder of Geyser, a Bitcoin crowdfunding platform built on the Lightning Network. In our conversation, we discussed the pros and cons of fiat crowdfunding platforms, the ways Lightning can improve accessibility for fundraisers, as well as stablecoins, censorship resistance, and the Geyser roadmap. → Geyser: https://geyser.fund/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, the industry standard in Lightning Network infrastructure. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node The Lightning Round is the show segment where I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:58 - Stelios Rammos Intro 08:02 - The Pros & Cons of Fiat Crowdfunding Platforms 11:55 - How Lightning Could Improve Crowdfunding 14:03 - Geyser Success Stories & User Behaviour 22:37 - How Geyser Works Today 33:26 - Future Payment Methods on Lightning 44:24 - Helping More People Earn More Sats 53:05 - Stablecoins on Lightning 56:30 - Canadian Truckers & Bitcoin Fundraising 1:03:12 - Geyser’s Roadmap 1:06:57 - Equity Crowdfunding on Bitcoin 1:16:28 - The Lightning Round