The Kevin Rooke Show

Lisa Neigut is a member of Blockstream’s Lightning team, and the co-founder of Base58, branded as the world’s best Bitcoin education company. Lisa and I discussed her work at Blockstream, the differences between Lightning implementations, as well as centralization risks and educating Bitcoin developers at Base58. → Core Lightning: https://blockstream.com/lightning/ → Base58: https://www.base58.info/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, the industry standard in Lightning Network infrastructure. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node The Lightning Round is the show segment where I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:09 - Lisa Neigut Intro 10:43 - Lisa’s Work on the Lightning Team at Blockstream 14:58 - What Differentiates Various Lightning Implementations? 24:24 - Do Lightning Implementations Have Strong Network Effects? 29:38 - Corporate Incentives for Lightning Implementations 39:57 - Centralization Risks on the Lightning Network 43:43 - The Importance of Distributed LN Nodes & Personal Servers 1:03:24 - Lisa’s Vision for Base58 & Bitcoin Education 1:19:06 - The Lightning Round

Cory Klippsten is the co-founder of Swan Bitcoin, as well as a Bitcoin angel investor and educator. Cory and I had a wide-ranging conversation, starting with Cory’s work at Swan, and then getting into the Lightning work Cory is doing, startup investing, the macro-economic picture, educating Bitcoiners, and more. → Swan Bitcoin: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/ → The Bitcoin Canon: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/canon/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, the industry standard in Lightning Network infrastructure. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node The Lightning Round is the show segment where I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:52 - Cory Klippsten Intro 07:43 - Swan’s Ambition to Help Bitcoin Savers, Earners, and Spenders 15:03 - Constraints Limiting Bitcoin Adoption Today 17:49 - Earning Bitcoin on Lightning 25:52 - The Hardest Part of Educating People on Bitcoin 27:55 - Are Enough People Aware of Inflation? 37:31 - Governments Using Bitcoin as a Tool to Improve Their Country 45:20 - Cory’s Bitcoin Startup Investing & El Zonte Capital 50:30 - Bitcoin & Lightning Predictions 54:34 - The Lightning Round

Pierre Rochard is a Bitcoin advocate, entrepreneur, and a Product Manager at Kraken, where he played a key role in launching Kraken’s Lightning Network integration. Pierre and I discussed exactly how Kraken’s Lightning integration was launched, the trade-offs that exchanges face when considering integrating with the Lightning Network, and a wide array of Lightning Network predictions. → Kraken: https://www.kraken.com/ → Kraken’s Lightning Node: https://amboss.space/node/02f1a8c87607f415c8f22c00593002775941dea48869ce23096af27b0cfdcc0b69 The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, the industry standard in Lightning Network infrastructure. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node The Lightning Round is the show segment where I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:04 - Pierre Rochard Intro 13:52 - Kraken’s Lightning Network Integration 17:34 - Will Kraken Be a Catalyst for Other Exchanges to Adopt Lightning? 27:06 - Using Lightning for Exchange Operations vs. Routing Revenue 36:11 - Why Kraken Chose to Build on LND 46:10 - Exchanges Choosing To Integrate Lightning 54:07 - Lightning Network Predictions 1:17:56 - The Lightning Round

Anders Helseth is a senior analyst at Arcane Research, and helped create their State of The Lightning Network report. Anders and I discussed the Lightning Network metrics covered in his report, the pace of innovation in Lightning since the report was published, and potential catalysts that could spur on further Lightning adoption. → Arcane Research: https://www.research.arcane.no/ → The State of  Lightning Report: https://www.research.arcane.no/the-state-of-lightning The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, where you can ask me questions over the Lightning Network. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node At the end of every show I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:57 - Anders Helseth Intro 07:27 - State of Lightning Report Findings 15:02 - Almost 100 Million People Have Access to the Lightning Network 17:18 - What Will Be The First Mainstream Lightning Application? 24:35 - Adoption of Remittances on the Lightning Network 34:08 - Sending vs. Earning Bitcoin on Lightning 38:24 - Lightning Network Misconceptions 56:47 - Lightning Network Predictions 1:07:22 - The Next Lightning Network Growth Catalyst 1:15:09 - The Lightning Round

Abubakar Nur Khalil is the CEO at Recursive Capital, a ₿ Trust board member, and a co-founder at Qala. Abubakar and I discussed his role in overseeing Jack Dorsey and Jay Z’s ₿ Trust, Bitcoin and Lightning adoption in Nigeria and Africa more broadly, investing in African Lightning startups through his work at Recursive, and educating the next generation of Bitcoin developers. → Recursive Capital: https://rcrsv.xyz The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, where you can ask me questions over the Lightning Network. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node At the end of every show I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:59 - Abubakar Nur Khalil Intro 12:00 - What Motivates Abubakar To Build on Bitcoin? 17:56 - The Evolution of Payments & Banks in Nigeria 26:46 - Bitcoin’s Role in Helping the Banked & Unbanked 34:09 - Is Bitcoin A Hedge Against Inflation in Nigeria? 38:40 - Abubakar’s Role in Jack Dorsey & Jay Z’s B Trust 57:55 - Factors Limiting Lightning Adoption 1:02:45 - What Applications Will Accelerate Lightning Adoption? 1:18:33 - The Lightning Round

Bryan Solstin is a US Senate Candidate with a campaign focused on making Bitcoin legal tender in America. Bryan and I discussed the steps required to make Bitcoin legal tender, Bitcoin’s effect on the US political landscape today, how the Lightning Network will fulfill Bitcoin’s ability to be a medium of exchange, and the second-order effects of America on a fiat vs. Bitcoin standard. → Bryan Solstin: https://solstin.org/ → Bryan’s 22 Bitcoin Use Cases: https://zenimal.xyz/use-cases The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, where you can ask me questions over the Lightning Network. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node At the end of every show I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:47 - Bryan Solstin Intro 04:31 - Bryan’s Introduction to Bitcoin 09:44 - The Impact of a Broken Fiat Financial System 14:29 - Transitioning From a Fiat Standard to a Bitcoin Standard 21:25 - The Steps to Making Bitcoin Legal Tender in the US 30:39 - What Will The Future Role of the US Dollar Be? 34:56 - Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange 42:46 - Bitcoin’s Impact as a Payments Platform 49:45 - Bitcoin’s Energy Usage 56:49 - Why America Should Be First to Adopt Bitcoin 1:01:05 - How Long Will It Take to Make Bitcoin Legal Tender? 1:04:29 - How Bitcoin Demonetizes Real Estate 1:12:48 - The Lightning Round

Brian Murray is a partner and the COO at Craft Ventures, a VC firm dedicated to finding the next generation of world-changing companies. Brian shared a fascinating perspective on Bitcoin, Lightning, startup investing, and the ways in which the Lightning Network will be impactful to different sets of people all over the world. I learned a ton from this conversation, and I know you will too. → Craft Ventures: https://www.craftventures.com/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, where you can ask me questions over the Lightning Network. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node At the end of every show I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01: 38 - Brian Murray Intro 07:18 - The Lightning Network’s Impact on Society 12:05 - Will Lightning Change The Way People Earn? 19:22 - How To Get More People Building on Bitcoin 21:22 - How Craft Ventures Partners Think About Bitcoin 23:36 - Craft Ventures’ Investing Process 28:28 - SaaS and Bitcoin Business Models 37:22 - Bootstrapping a Bitcoin Business 39:39 - The Lightning Network’s TAM 45:05 - Hedging Uncertainty with Bitcoin 48:00 - Measuring Bitcoin Adoption 55:19 - Lightning’s Impact in the Developing vs. Developed World 59:25 - Creating & Capturing Value on Lightning 1:12:30 - The Lightning Round

Michael Bumann and Moritz Kaminski are the co-founders of Alby, a Chrome extension that enables anyone to send Bitcoin over the Lightning Network directly from their browser. Michael, Moritz, and I spoke about exactly how Alby works, the similarities and differences between Alby and Metamask, why Alby chose to build on WebLN and LNURL, as well as a wide-ranging discussion covering identity, value for value, and interesting new Lightning applications. → Alby: https://getalby.com/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, where you can ask me questions over the Lightning Network. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node At the end of every show I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:35 - Alby Intro 05:21 - Connecting the Lightning Network to the Web 09:09 - Building a Browser Extension  vs. Browser vs. Mobile App 13:08 - Disrupting Existing Business Models vs. Creating New Markets 16:40 - Similarities & Differences Between Alby and MetaMask 18:56 - Why Should People Use Alby? 26:50 - Are Lightning App Developers Using WebLN & LNURL? 30:48 - Value 4 Value 53:52 - Will Lightning Be More Impactful for Digital or Physical Goods? 56:30 - Alby's Business Model 59:56 - Will Alby Solve Identity on the Lightning Network? 1:07:00 - Interesting Lightning Applications 1:11:50 - The Lightning Round

Ken Kruger is the CEO and Founder of Moon, a company making it easy for anyone to spend their Bitcoin anywhere online. Ken and I spoke about exactly how Moon enables this functionality, Moon’s partnership with VISA, the challenge for traditional payment platforms to innovate on Lightning, as well as a wide-ranging discussion covering privacy, censorship, and emerging Lightning applications. → Moon: https://paywithmoon.com/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, where you can ask me questions over the Lightning Network. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node At the end of every show I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:20 - Ken Kruger Intro 05:51 - How Does Moon Work? 09:00 - Visa’s Expansion Into Crypto Wallets 14:53 - The Impact of Low Transaction Fees oh Lightning 19:40 - Demand for Stablecoins 22:18 - Commerce Activity on Moon 26:52 - Making Private Payments on Moon 30:56 - Why Are People Concerned About Privacy and Censorship Now? 33:17 - Politics in Business 41:14 - Moon’s Product Roadmap 45:38 - Lightning Adoption on Moon 48:13 - Why Moon Users Are Choosing Lightning 57:40 - Will Lightning Payments Change Commerce Volume? 59:05 - Interesting Lightning Applications 01:12:21 - The Lightning Round

Justin Rezvani is the CEO of Zion, a Bitcoin company re-imagining social media on the Lightning Network. Justin and I spoke about how Zion differs from traditional social media apps, the importance of peer-to-peer communication and value transfer, how Value 4 Value changes people’s behavior, and Zion’s business model and adoption metrics to date. → Zion: https://www.getzion.com/ The Lightning Round is sponsored by Voltage, where you can ask me questions over the Lightning Network. → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Use code KEVINROOKE to get 50% off your first month's Lightning node At the end of every show I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network. To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the iOS or Google Play App Store and load your wallet with a few sats. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → Listen to More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Follow Kevin Rooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Lightning Address: ⚡kr@getalby.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:29 - Justin Rezvani Intro 07:07 - Zion’s Social Media Vision 15:54 - Transitioning Users From Web 2 to Zion 19:04 - Zion’s Social Media Focus 24:41 - Supporting Creators With Sats 33:13 - Paid vs. Free Social Media 40:24 - Convincing Users To Pay For Zion 43:02 - Does Zion Rank Content? 48:25 - How Will Zion Build A Sustainable Business? 52:00 - Getting New Users On Lightning & Zion 54:40 - Educating People About Bitcoin 56:35 - Lightning Network Statistics 01:00:53 - Lightning Network Predictions 01:03:14 - Interesting Lightning Applications 01:05:12 - The Lightning Round