
This vs. That
A podcast where we have conversations that explore what we think and why we think it.
Latest episodes

Aug 2, 2023 • 50min
Virtual vs. In-Person Counseling - Curtis Solomon
On this episode of This vs. That, we are joined by Curtis Solomon, Executive Director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition, to discuss virtual vs. in-person counseling. Curtis shares his insights on the primary concerns of those who may be skeptical of virtual counseling, such as the role of the local church and the motivation behind seeking counseling. We also explore the sensory and three-dimensional components of in-person counseling that may be lost in a virtual setting, and how to make the most of technology to bridge the gap. Join us for this insightful conversation on the pros and cons of virtual versus in-person counseling.
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At Anchored Hope, we're committed to excellence. We believe that compassionate, biblically grounded, clinically informed counseling shouldn't be hard to find. That's why we are also committed to affordability and accessibility. To do this as a nonprofit, however, requires us to lock arms with people who care about the mental, emotional, and spiritual crisis happening all around us.
If this is you, we need your help. This month we launched a brand new giving campaign and we are seeking to find a hundred people willing to give so that others might live. Whether it's $5 or a thousand dollars, we need your help. These proceeds go to men, women and families, pastors, ministry leaders, and missionaries across the globe in need of counseling care today.
In order to join us, go to anchoredhope.co/give and join the cause for accessible, affordable, and excellent counseling care today.
While our funds go to people in need of counseling and to support the growing ministry of Ingrid Hope, we have two specific financial needs. One is to serve ministry leaders in a foreign country that are caring and doing outreach to trafficked victims. The other need is a request to help and financing counseling for military families across the nation.
If you would like more information about these two opportunities to give, send us an email@officebiblicalcounseling.online
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 26, 2023 • 53min
Longing vs. Trusting God in Singleness - Yana Jenay
On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Jana Jenay Connor, a writer, Bible teacher, and host of the Living Single podcast, to discuss the topic of longing versus trusting God in singleness. Whether you are married or single, this conversation is important and relevant. Jana shares her personal experiences and insights on how to enjoy the season of singleness, the challenges of loneliness, and the importance of investing in friendships. We also delve into the current dating scene and how technology has changed the game, making it harder to navigate the plethora of options available. Join us for a thought-provoking and encouraging conversation on this important topic.
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At Anchored Hope, we're committed to excellence. We believe that compassionate, biblically grounded, clinically informed counseling shouldn't be hard to find. That's why we are also committed to affordability and accessibility. To do this as a nonprofit, however, requires us to lock arms with people who care about the mental, emotional, and spiritual crisis happening all around us.
If this is you, we need your help. This month we launched a brand new giving campaign and we are seeking to find a hundred people willing to give so that others might live. Whether it's $5 or a thousand dollars, we need your help. These proceeds go to men, women and families, pastors, ministry leaders, and missionaries across the globe in need of counseling care today.
In order to join us, go to anchoredhope.co/give and join the cause for accessible, affordable, and excellent counseling care today.
While our funds go to people in need of counseling and to support the growing ministry of Ingrid Hope, we have two specific financial needs. One is to serve ministry leaders in a foreign country that are caring and doing outreach to trafficked victims. The other need is a request to help and financing counseling for military families across the nation.
If you would like more information about these two opportunities to give, send us an email@officebiblicalcounseling.online
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 19, 2023 • 53min
Self-Care vs. Wise Sabbath - Rusty Mckie
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the topic of self-care versus wise Sabbath with special guest Rusty Mckie. Rusty is a spiritual director, author, and founder of Steadfast Ministries, which exists to help others stay grounded in Christ. He also serves as a counselor with Anchored Hope.
Throughout the episode, we explore the biblical principles behind Sabbath and self-care, and how they relate to our identity and work. Rusty reminds us that we work from rest, not for rest, and that self-care is about right-sizing ourselves and paying attention to our needs and limits.
Join us as we dive deeper into the topic of self-care versus wise Sabbath and learn how to live a more balanced and fulfilling life.
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At Anchored Hope, we're committed to excellence. We believe that compassionate, biblically grounded, clinically informed counseling shouldn't be hard to find. That's why we are also committed to affordability and accessibility. To do this as a nonprofit, however, requires us to lock arms with people who care about the mental, emotional, and spiritual crisis happening all around us.
If this is you, we need your help. This month we launched a brand new giving campaign and we are seeking to find a hundred people willing to give so that others might live. Whether it's $5 or a thousand dollars, we need your help. These proceeds go to men, women and families, pastors, ministry leaders, and missionaries across the globe in need of counseling care today.
In order to join us, go to anchoredhope.co/give and join the cause for accessible, affordable, and excellent counseling care today.
While our funds go to people in need of counseling and to support the growing ministry of Ingrid Hope, we have two specific financial needs. One is to serve ministry leaders in a foreign country that are caring and doing outreach to trafficked victims. The other need is a request to help and financing counseling for military families across the nation.
If you would like more information about these two opportunities to give, send us an email@officebiblicalcounseling.online
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 12, 2023 • 41min
Releasing Friendships vs. Walking Away - Jonathan Holmes
On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Jonathan Holmes, the founder and executive director of Fieldstone Counseling and pastor of counseling for Parkside Church. We delve into the topic of releasing friendships in a godly way versus sinfully walking away from friends. Jonathan shares his insights on the value of friendship in the body of Christ and why there seems to be a crisis of friendship within the church. We discuss discernment, boundaries, and when it may be necessary to walk away or even run from a toxic relationship. Join us for this insightful conversation on navigating the complexities of friendship in a Christ-like way.
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At Anchored Hope, we're committed to excellence. We believe that compassionate, biblically grounded, clinically informed counseling shouldn't be hard to find. That's why we are also committed to affordability and accessibility. To do this as a nonprofit, however, requires us to lock arms with people who care about the mental, emotional, and spiritual crisis happening all around us.
If this is you, we need your help. This month we launched a brand new giving campaign and we are seeking to find a hundred people willing to give so that others might live. Whether it's $5 or a thousand dollars, we need your help. These proceeds go to men, women and families, pastors, ministry leaders, and missionaries across the globe in need of counseling care today.
In order to join us, go to anchoredhope.co/give and join the cause for accessible, affordable, and excellent counseling care today.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jul 5, 2023 • 55min
Deconstruction vs. Discernment - Michael Keller
On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Dr. Michael Keller, founding and senior pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church, Lincoln Square in New York City, about deconstructing versus discernment. We explore the broad lexical range of the word deconstruction and the importance of starting with assumptions based on scripture when questioning our faith. We also discuss healthy ways to question our faith and differentiate between cultural additives and true biblical teachings. Tune in to this episode for a thought-provoking conversation on faith and discernment.
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Marketeering - Are you spending too much time managing your website, designing graphics, and trying to figure out how grow your digital platform? Maybe you know you should be focusing on these things, but you just don’t have the time.
At Marketeering, we believe that no brand should lack the creative tools needed to grow and thrive. We can help you uncover what makes your brand unique and develop a strategy for helping your brand stand out from the rest.
Right now, we're offering a special rate to get started that is exclusively for This vs. That listeners. Visit marketeering.co and schedule a brand assessment with us and receive 50% off! Just mention This vs. That in the contact form.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jun 28, 2023 • 12min
Season 2 Preview
In this episode of This vs. That we share a preview of what's to come in season 2.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

Jun 7, 2023 • 41min
Godly Striving vs. Works-Based Sanctification - Joel Muddamalle
On this final episode of This vs. That season 1, we discuss the tension between godly striving and works-based sanctification with Dr. Joel Muddamalle, Director of Theology and Research for Proverbs 31 Ministries and Lysa TerKeurst. We explore the motivations behind our actions and the importance of a theology of remembrance. We also delve into the concept of new creation theology and how it relates to the direction we are moving in our Christian lives.
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Women & Work - Are you a woman who wants to honor God with your life but aren’t sure how your work makes an eternal difference in the kingdom of God?
Women & Work is a faith and work organization that is for every woman in every season. They produce a podcast and countless resources to inspire women to confidently step into their God-given calling and leverage their unique potential for God’s glory.
They also have a new book releasing, Women & Work: Bearing God's Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work and you can preorder your copy today!
Go to womenwork.net to learn more.
The Disciple-Making Parent - Do you feel equipped to disciple your children? In today’s hostile culture, you need a strategy for parenting. The Disciple-Making Parent ministry seeks to equip parents and churches to pass the gospel to their children - and they want to help you raise strong disciples of Jesus Christ who can stand firm in today's culture.
Their book, The Disciple-Making Parent, has been endorsed by Albert Mohler and Tim Challies. You can get a copy of the audiobook absolutely free. Simply visit: thedisciplemakingparent.com/freeaudiobook to get access.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.
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May 31, 2023 • 40min
Performance vs. Worship - Shane and Shane
In this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Shane Barnard and Shane Everett, better known as Shane and Shane. They discuss the topic of Performance vs. Worship and how it's relevant to every believer.
The conversation also touches on the concept of corporate worship and how it's a unique opportunity to lift our voices to God and experience the word of Christ dwelling richly in us. Shane and Shane believe that all of life is worship, and the pursuit of musical excellence can lead us to a path of greater satisfaction in God. They also highlight the importance of eliminating distractions in worship to create an undistracted space for us to see, love, and know Jesus. We really enjoyed this conversation and are excited to share it with you
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The Disciple-Making Parent - Do you feel equipped to disciple your children? In today’s hostile culture, you need a strategy for parenting. The Disciple-Making Parent ministry seeks to equip parents and churches to pass the gospel to their children - and they want to help you raise strong disciples of Jesus Christ who can stand firm in today's culture.
Their book, The Disciple-Making Parent, has been endorsed by Albert Mohler and Tim Challies. You can get a copy of the audiobook absolutely free. Simply visit: thedisciplemakingparent.com/freeaudiobook to get access.
Marketeering - Are you spending too much time managing your website, designing graphics, and trying to figure out how grow your digital platform? Maybe you know you should be focusing on these things, but you just don’t have the time.
At Marketeering, we believe that no brand should lack the creative tools needed to grow and thrive. We can help you uncover what makes your brand unique and develop a strategy for helping your brand stand out from the rest.
Right now, we're offering a special rate to get started that is exclusively for This vs. That listeners. Visit marketeering.co and schedule a brand assessment with us and receive 50% off! Just mention This vs. That in the contact form.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

May 24, 2023 • 49min
Control vs. Discipleship in Parenting - Melissa Kruger
On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into the topic of parenting with special guest Melissa Kruger. Join us as we discuss the difference between control and discipleship in parenting and how to navigate the transition as our children grow older. We explore the importance of understanding our own hearts as parents and how to shift from reactive control to proactive discipline. Melissa shares personal stories and insights from her own parenting journey and offers practical advice for raising children who love Jesus and choose what is good. Don't miss this encouraging and thought-provoking conversation on parenting.
She serves as Vice President of Discipleship Programming at the Gospel Coalition. She's the author of many books, including Walking With God in the Season of Motherhood. Her husband Mike, is the president of Reformed Theological Seminary, and they have three children. She writes at Wit's End, hosted by the Gospel Coalition.
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The Disciple-Making Parent - Do you feel equipped to disciple your children? In today’s hostile culture, you need a strategy for parenting. The Disciple-Making Parent ministry seeks to equip parents and churches to pass the gospel to their children - and they want to help you raise strong disciples of Jesus Christ who can stand firm in today's culture.
Their book, The Disciple-Making Parent, has been endorsed by Albert Mohler and Tim Challies. You can get a copy of the audiobook absolutely free. Simply visit: thedisciplemakingparent.com/freeaudiobook to get access.
Marketeering - Are you spending too much time managing your website, designing graphics, and trying to figure out how grow your digital platform? Maybe you know you should be focusing on these things, but you just don’t have the time.
At Marketeering, we believe that no brand should lack the creative tools needed to grow and thrive. We can help you uncover what makes your brand unique and develop a strategy for helping your brand stand out from the rest.
Right now, we're offering a special rate to get started that is exclusively for This vs. That listeners. Visit marketeering.co and schedule a brand assessment with us and receive 50% off! Just mention This vs. That in the contact form.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.

May 17, 2023 • 48min
Divine Sovereignty vs. Toxic Positivity - Jared Wilson
On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into the topic of Divine Sovereignty vs. Toxic Positivity. We discuss the trending phrase of toxic positivity and its impact on our lives, and why it's important to take a step back and consider whether we're truly trusting in God's sovereignty or just trying to be positive. We also explore the importance of understanding the context and contour of our relationships when ministering to those who are suffering. Join us for this insightful and thought-provoking conversation.
Jared Wilson serves as assistant professor of Pastoral Ministry and Author in Residence at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He's the General Editor of For the Church and also the author of numerous books including Gospel Wakefulness, The Gospel Driven Church, and most recently, Love Me Anyway: How God's Perfect Love Fulfills Our Deepest Longings.
For a complete list of book and resources from Jared Wilson, visit jaredcwilson.com
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The Missions Course - We believe God has an important role for you – and The Church – to play in The Great Commission. Don’t know what The Great Commission is? That’s alright! The Missions Course is a 6-week, online study that reveals God’s heart for the nations and invites you to play your part in it. We’ve designed this course to tuck nicely in-between classes, while you’re making dinner, or on your daily commute. Missions isn’t just for them, it’s for you too! Use the code ANCHOREDHOPE to take $10 off your registration. Visit TheMissionsCourse.com to learn more and register today.
Women & Work - Are you a woman who wants to honor God with your life but aren’t sure how your work makes an eternal difference in the kingdom of God?
Women & Work is a faith and work organization that is for every woman in every season. They produce a podcast and countless resources to inspire women to confidently step into their God-given calling and leverage their unique potential for God’s glory.
They also have a new book releasing, Women & Work: Bearing God's Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work and you can preorder your copy today!
Go to womenwork.net to learn more.
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This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life.
To meet with a counselor, visit anchoredhope.co and schedule an appointment today.