On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Jonathan Holmes, the founder and executive director of Fieldstone Counseling and pastor of counseling for Parkside Church. We delve into the topic of releasing friendships in a godly way versus sinfully walking away from friends. Jonathan shares his insights on the value of friendship in the body of Christ and why there seems to be a crisis of friendship within the church. We discuss discernment, boundaries, and when it may be necessary to walk away or even run from a toxic relationship. Join us for this insightful conversation on navigating the complexities of friendship in a Christ-like way. ----- At Anchored Hope, we're committed to excellence. We believe that compassionate, biblically grounded, clinically informed counseling shouldn't be hard to find. That's why we are also committed to affordability and accessibility. To do this as a nonprofit, however, requires us to lock arms with people who care about the mental, emotional, and spiritual crisis happening all around us. If this is you, we need your help. This month we launched a brand new giving campaign and we are seeking to find a hundred people willing to give so that others might live. Whether it's $5 or a thousand dollars, we need your help. These proceeds go to men, women and families, pastors, ministry leaders, and missionaries across the globe in need of counseling care today. In order to join us, go to anchoredhope.co/give and join the cause for accessible, affordable, and excellent counseling care today. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Dr. Michael Keller, founding and senior pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church, Lincoln Square in New York City, about deconstructing versus discernment. We explore the broad lexical range of the word deconstruction and the importance of starting with assumptions based on scripture when questioning our faith. We also discuss healthy ways to question our faith and differentiate between cultural additives and true biblical teachings. Tune in to this episode for a thought-provoking conversation on faith and discernment. ----- Marketeering⁠⁠ - Are you spending too much time managing your website, designing graphics, and trying to figure out how grow your digital platform? Maybe you know you should be focusing on these things, but you just don’t have the time. At Marketeering, we believe that no brand should lack the creative tools needed to grow and thrive. We can help you uncover what makes your brand unique and develop a strategy for helping your brand stand out from the rest. Right now, we're offering a special rate to get started that is exclusively for This vs. That listeners. Visit ⁠⁠marketeering.co⁠⁠ and schedule a brand assessment with us and receive 50% off! Just mention This vs. That in the contact form. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

In this episode of This vs. That we share a preview of what's to come in season 2. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this final episode of This vs. That season 1, we discuss the tension between godly striving and works-based sanctification with Dr. Joel Muddamalle, Director of Theology and Research for Proverbs 31 Ministries and Lysa TerKeurst. We explore the motivations behind our actions and the importance of a theology of remembrance. We also delve into the concept of new creation theology and how it relates to the direction we are moving in our Christian lives. ----- ⁠⁠Women & Work⁠⁠⁠ - Are you a woman who wants to honor God with your life but aren’t sure how your work makes an eternal difference in the kingdom of God? Women & Work is a faith and work organization that is for every woman in every season. They produce a podcast and countless resources to inspire women to confidently step into their God-given calling and leverage their unique potential for God’s glory. They also have a new book releasing, Women & Work: Bearing God's Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work and you can preorder your copy today! Go to ⁠⁠⁠womenwork.net⁠⁠⁠ to learn more. ⁠⁠The Disciple-Making Parent⁠⁠ - Do you feel equipped to disciple your children? In today’s hostile culture, you need a strategy for parenting. The Disciple-Making Parent ministry seeks to equip parents and churches to pass the gospel to their children - and they want to help you raise strong disciples of Jesus Christ who can stand firm in today's culture. Their book, The Disciple-Making Parent, has been endorsed by Albert Mohler and Tim Challies. You can get a copy of the audiobook absolutely free. Simply visit: ⁠⁠thedisciplemakingparent.com/freeaudiobook⁠⁠ to get access. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today. -----

In this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Shane Barnard and Shane Everett, better known as Shane and Shane. They discuss the topic of Performance vs. Worship and how it's relevant to every believer. The conversation also touches on the concept of corporate worship and how it's a unique opportunity to lift our voices to God and experience the word of Christ dwelling richly in us. Shane and Shane believe that all of life is worship, and the pursuit of musical excellence can lead us to a path of greater satisfaction in God. They also highlight the importance of eliminating distractions in worship to create an undistracted space for us to see, love, and know Jesus. We really enjoyed this conversation and are excited to share it with you ----- ⁠The Disciple-Making Parent⁠ - Do you feel equipped to disciple your children? In today’s hostile culture, you need a strategy for parenting. The Disciple-Making Parent ministry seeks to equip parents and churches to pass the gospel to their children - and they want to help you raise strong disciples of Jesus Christ who can stand firm in today's culture. Their book, The Disciple-Making Parent, has been endorsed by Albert Mohler and Tim Challies. You can get a copy of the audiobook absolutely free. Simply visit: ⁠thedisciplemakingparent.com/freeaudiobook⁠ to get access. ⁠Marketeering⁠ - Are you spending too much time managing your website, designing graphics, and trying to figure out how grow your digital platform? Maybe you know you should be focusing on these things, but you just don’t have the time. At Marketeering, we believe that no brand should lack the creative tools needed to grow and thrive. We can help you uncover what makes your brand unique and develop a strategy for helping your brand stand out from the rest. Right now, we're offering a special rate to get started that is exclusively for This vs. That listeners. Visit ⁠marketeering.co⁠ and schedule a brand assessment with us and receive 50% off! Just mention This vs. That in the contact form. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into the topic of parenting with special guest Melissa Kruger. Join us as we discuss the difference between control and discipleship in parenting and how to navigate the transition as our children grow older. We explore the importance of understanding our own hearts as parents and how to shift from reactive control to proactive discipline. Melissa shares personal stories and insights from her own parenting journey and offers practical advice for raising children who love Jesus and choose what is good. Don't miss this encouraging and thought-provoking conversation on parenting. She serves as Vice President of Discipleship Programming at the Gospel Coalition. She's the author of many books, including Walking With God in the Season of Motherhood. Her husband Mike, is the president of Reformed Theological Seminary, and they have three children. She writes at Wit's End, hosted by the Gospel Coalition. ----- The Disciple-Making Parent - Do you feel equipped to disciple your children? In today’s hostile culture, you need a strategy for parenting. The Disciple-Making Parent ministry seeks to equip parents and churches to pass the gospel to their children - and they want to help you raise strong disciples of Jesus Christ who can stand firm in today's culture. Their book, The Disciple-Making Parent, has been endorsed by Albert Mohler and Tim Challies. You can get a copy of the audiobook absolutely free. Simply visit: thedisciplemakingparent.com/freeaudiobook to get access. Marketeering - Are you spending too much time managing your website, designing graphics, and trying to figure out how grow your digital platform? Maybe you know you should be focusing on these things, but you just don’t have the time. At Marketeering, we believe that no brand should lack the creative tools needed to grow and thrive. We can help you uncover what makes your brand unique and develop a strategy for helping your brand stand out from the rest. Right now, we're offering a special rate to get started that is exclusively for This vs. That listeners. Visit marketeering.co and schedule a brand assessment with us and receive 50% off! Just mention This vs. That in the contact form. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠anchoredhope.co⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into the topic of Divine Sovereignty vs. Toxic Positivity. We discuss the trending phrase of toxic positivity and its impact on our lives, and why it's important to take a step back and consider whether we're truly trusting in God's sovereignty or just trying to be positive. We also explore the importance of understanding the context and contour of our relationships when ministering to those who are suffering. Join us for this insightful and thought-provoking conversation. Jared Wilson serves as assistant professor of Pastoral Ministry and Author in Residence at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He's the General Editor of For the Church and also the author of numerous books including Gospel Wakefulness, The Gospel Driven Church, and most recently, Love Me Anyway: How God's Perfect Love Fulfills Our Deepest Longings. For a complete list of book and resources from Jared Wilson, visit jaredcwilson.com ----- The Missions Course⁠ - We believe God has an important role for you – and The Church – to play in The Great Commission. Don’t know what The Great Commission is? That’s alright! The Missions Course is a 6-week, online study that reveals God’s heart for the nations and invites you to play your part in it. We’ve designed this course to tuck nicely in-between classes, while you’re making dinner, or on your daily commute.  Missions isn’t just for them, it’s for you too! Use the code ANCHOREDHOPE to take $10 off your registration. Visit ⁠TheMissionsCourse.com⁠ to learn more and register today. ⁠⁠Women & Work⁠⁠ - Are you a woman who wants to honor God with your life but aren’t sure how your work makes an eternal difference in the kingdom of God? Women & Work is a faith and work organization that is for every woman in every season. They produce a podcast and countless resources to inspire women to confidently step into their God-given calling and leverage their unique potential for God’s glory. They also have a new book releasing, Women & Work: Bearing God's Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work and you can preorder your copy today! Go to ⁠⁠womenwork.net⁠⁠ to learn more. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠⁠anchoredhope.co⁠⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

On this episode of This vs. That, we chat with Ronnie Martin, about the difference between self-awareness and navel gazing. Ronnie shares his personal experience with introspection and how he combats its tendency to become all-consuming. From intentional curiosity in other people's lives to prayer and discernment, we discuss practical tips for cultivating godly self-awareness. We also discuss the importance of humility, the role of spiritual disciplines, and taking the first step towards self-awareness. Join us for a thoughtful conversation on this important topic. Ronnie Martin is the lead pastor of Substance Church in Ashland, Ohio. He is also the author of the Advent Devotional the The God Who Is with Us: 25-Day Devotional for Advent and a co-host of The Happy Rant podcast. ----- This episode of This vs. That is sponsored by: ⁠⁠Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention⁠⁠ - “Psalm 127:3 says, “Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord…” Yet, today one in every three girls and one in every seven boys are sexually abused before they’re 18. That’s why Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention was formed. By implementing ECAP’s child safety standards, Christian ministries create safe places for children and youth to hear the gospel and grow in discipleship, unhindered by abuse. Ministry leaders! Check out ECAP’s free child protection assessments at ⁠⁠www.ecap.net⁠⁠. Parents! Contact ECAP through their website at ⁠⁠www.ecap.net⁠⁠ to get a free video resource by Julie Lowe, author of Safeguards.” Marketeering - Are you spending too much time managing your website, designing graphics, and trying to figure out how grow your digital platform? Maybe you know you should be focusing on these things, but you just don’t have the time. At Marketeering, we believe that no brand should lack the creative tools needed to grow and thrive. We can help you uncover what makes your brand unique and develop a strategy for helping your brand stand out from the rest. Right now, we're offering a special rate to get started that is exclusively for This vs. That listeners. Visit marketeering.co and schedule a brand assessment with us and receive 50% off! Just mention This vs. That in the contact form. This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠anchoredhope.co⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

In this episode of This vs. That, Dr. Lainey Greer joins the conversation to discuss the balance between caring for our bodies and idolizing them. We talk about the misunderstanding of the body in Christian circles and the importance of a biblical understanding of the body. We also discuss how caring for our bodies plays a role in our emotional and spiritual health. Dr. Greer shares her personal experience with an eating disorder and how it affected her mind and body. We also touch on the significance of the Trinitarian view of the body and how it impacts our Christian life. Finally, we discuss how to distinguish between caring for our bodies appropriately and idolizing them, and how to discern when our thoughts and actions have shifted to an unhealthy level. Dr. Lainey Greer is an author, speaker, and personal trainer with over 10 years experience working in the local church. She holds a PhD in Theology from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and is passionate about teaching how the scripture addresses the human body. https://laineygreer.com/ ----- Resources mentioned: Embodied: Living as Whole People in a Fractured World - Gregg Allison Be Well: Learning How to Steward Your Health - Lainey Greer Fitness Blender ----- This episode of This vs. That is sponsored by: ⁠⁠Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention⁠⁠ - “Psalm 127:3 says, “Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord…” Yet, today one in every three girls and one in every seven boys are sexually abused before they’re 18. That’s why Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention was formed. By implementing ECAP’s child safety standards, Christian ministries create safe places for children and youth to hear the gospel and grow in discipleship, unhindered by abuse. Ministry leaders! Check out ECAP’s free child protection assessments at ⁠⁠www.ecap.net⁠⁠. Parents! Contact ECAP through their website at ⁠⁠www.ecap.net⁠⁠ to get a free video resource by Julie Lowe, author of Safeguards.” ⁠Women & Work⁠ - Are you a woman who wants to honor God with your life but aren’t sure how your work makes an eternal difference in the kingdom of God? Women & Work is a faith and work organization that is for every woman in every season. They produce a podcast and countless resources to inspire women to confidently step into their God-given calling and leverage their unique potential for God’s glory. They also have a new book releasing, Women & Work: Bearing God's Image and Joining in His Mission through our Work and you can preorder your copy today! Go to ⁠womenwork.net⁠ to learn more. ----- This vs. That is a podcast of Anchored Hope. Anchored Hope provides practical help to those hurting by anchoring their hope in Jesus and helping others gain a better understanding of his promises. We offer reputable, biblical counsel to those suffering or experiencing difficult seasons. Our counselors are highly trained and bring a vast experience in addressing the various issues of life. To meet with a counselor, visit ⁠anchoredhope.co⁠ and schedule an appointment today.

In this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Dr. Ed Welch about the relationship between discipleship and counseling. We explore the similarities and differences between the two, and emphasize the importance of understanding when to seek counseling versus when to seek discipleship. We also discuss the generational differences in mental health language and how to help individuals reform their thinking about counseling. Welch stresses the importance of having a wise and loving friend, and suggests that pastors continue to meet with individuals and invite them to speak openly about their struggles. Overall, this episode highlights the need for a culture where it is natural to speak about our needs and to reach out for help, and where pastors communicate that neediness is normal and that we always need Jesus. We hope you enjoy the conversation. ----- Books mentioned: When People Are Big and God Is Small: Overcoming Peer Pressure, Codependency, and the Fear of Man - Ed Welch Side by Side: Walking with Others in Wisdom and Love - Ed Welch Caring for One Another: 8 Ways to Cultivate Meaningful Relationships - Ed Welch ----- This episode of This vs. That is sponsored by: ⁠⁠P&R Publishing⁠⁠ – Edward Welch’s groundbreaking book ⁠⁠When People Are Big and God Is Small⁠⁠ has sold more than a quarter million copies since it was first released and has helped countless people in their struggles with codependency, peer pressure, and fear of man. This spring, P&R Publishing is pleased to announce the release of a comprehensively revised new edition. Learn how to need people less and love people more in this important update to a classic work of biblical counseling. Available wherever books are sold. ⁠⁠⁠The Missions Course⁠⁠⁠ – We believe God has an important role for you – and The Church – to play in The Great Commission. Don’t know what The Great Commission is? That’s alright! The Missions Course is a 6-week, online study that reveals God’s heart for the nations and invites you to play your part in it. We’ve designed this course to tuck nicely in-between classes, while you’re making dinner, or on your daily commute.  Missions isn’t just for them, it’s for you too! Use the code ANCHOREDHOPE to take $10 off your registration. Visit ⁠⁠⁠TheMissionsCourse.com⁠⁠⁠ to learn more and register today.