The Clock and the Cat

Johnnie Moore, a great facilitator who has written two books on the topic, discusses the shift from advertising to facilitation, the art of unhurried conversations using everyday objects, redefining leadership with influence over control, embracing improv principles in facilitation, and navigating complexity in addressing global challenges.

Daniel Thornton, with a background in government, discusses Covid challenges, corporate culture, electric cars, and the Succession series. They delve into vaccine equity, government tech transitions, organizational dynamics, and the shift to alternative car technologies. The conversation also touches on collaborative scriptwriting for successful TV series.

In this episode, Olli-Pekka Heinonen discusses the application of complexity thinking in the Finnish government. Topics include experimental initiatives like basic income, phenomenon-based education, and embracing complexity for improved effectiveness. He shares insights on utilizing complexity in government and television production, navigating challenges in government experimentation, and integrating subjects and competencies in Finnish education. The conversation also delves into behavior change challenges, warm data concept, contextualized activities, and leadership insights in Finland.

Eric Wenzel, an expert in complex responsive processes, discusses the limitations of systems thinking in organizations and the importance of human creativity and spontaneity. He reflects on the challenges of engaging with entrenched systems thinking and the loneliness of thinking differently. The podcast explores the transition to complexity theory in managing work projects and emphasizes the value of meaningful conversations over abstract concepts.

Discussion on the flaws of traditional outcome-based performance management and the need for a new paradigm rooted in complexity theory. Exploring challenges in securing research funding and gaining stakeholder support. Emphasis on humility, trust, and relationship-building in managing dynamic systems and navigating complexity effectively.

The podcast covers topics like trust-building, Gestalt therapy, and the importance of genuine dialogue in navigating organizational change. The discussion explores the impact of the environment on behavior, the craft of change in complex systems, and the pivotal role of trust in driving positive transformations.

The podcast discusses the importance of experimentation in driving social change over evidence-based policy. It highlights the challenges of extracting tacit knowledge and cultural barriers to experimentation. The speakers explore the shift towards an experimental and enabling mindset in governments, emphasizing the need for continuous learning and innovation.

Roland Kupers, independent advisor on Complexity, Resilience, and Energy Transition, discusses learning about complexity. Topics include history of complexity science, applying complexity in different fields, various ways to learn about complexity, and implementing complexity curriculum in schools.

Roland Kupers - BioRoland is an independent advisor on Complexity, Resilience and Energy Transition.He Dutch and speaks 4 other languages fluently.Originally a theoretical physicist he’s worked in business management in AT&T then in Shell where he held several senior positions.He has written books on scenario planning, resilience and complexity in the context of public policy. And he’s writing another one on climate change at the moment.He lectures in complexity and he’s an affiliate of Institute for Advanced Studies in Amsterdam.More information- Website - Roland Kupers- Book - Complexity and the Art of Public Policy - Roland Kupers & David Colander- Book - Connected: The Surprising Power of Our Social Networks - Nicholas Kristakis & James Fowler- Singapore Complexity Institute

Daniel Thornton, with extensive experience in government, discusses navigating complexity in organizational challenges, global problem-solving, contrasting government operations, organizational dynamics in technology approaches, leadership behavior, and unintended consequences in organizational dynamics. The podcast explores the shift towards adaptive approaches, collaboration, and the importance of authenticity in addressing complex issues.