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Bloomberg
Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway explore the most interesting topics in finance, markets and economics. Join the conversation every Monday and Thursday.
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Sep 29, 2025 • 34min
The King of Chicago Trading Wants to Build a GPU Market Bigger Than Oil
Don Wilson, the founder and CEO of DRW, shares his insights on the burgeoning GPU market, which he predicts could surpass the oil industry due to rising AI demands. He discusses the vision for a standardized market, the intricacies of compute auctions, and the potential for tokenizing financial assets. Don reflects on his trading career, emphasizes the need for robust indices, and anticipates that most financial instruments will be tokenized within five years, reshaping the future of trading.

Sep 28, 2025 • 2min
Introducing IVF Disrupted: The Kindbody Story
Dive into the world of Kindbody, a fertility company that merges spa-like vibes with high-tech efficiency. Explore its rise to a billion-dollar unicorn and the glamorous facade it presents. However, behind the polished image lie disillusioned patients grappling with the harsh realities of rapid disruption in fertility care. Host Jackie Davalos reveals the risks of a move-fast mentality when creating life, inviting listeners to reflect on the true cost of innovation in such a personal journey.

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Sep 26, 2025 • 45min
Jack Morris on Finding the Next Big AI Breakthrough
Jack Morris, an AI researcher and Ph.D. candidate at Cornell, delves into the unpredictable nature of AI breakthroughs. He discusses the intricate balance between open and closed research labs, revealing how proprietary data can set teams apart. Jack also explores the complexities of measuring model performance with benchmarks and the distinction between supervised and reinforcement learning. With thoughts on the future of personalization and the challenges of monetizing curiosity-driven research, he offers a fresh perspective on the evolving AI landscape.

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Sep 25, 2025 • 40min
Ozan Tarman on What's Driving The Nonstop Rise in Gold and Tech
Ozan Tarman, Vice Chair of Global Macro at Deutsche Bank, discusses the fascinating dynamics behind the rising popularity of gold and U.S. tech stocks. He highlights growing skepticism towards U.S. sovereignty driving gold's rise and the tech sector's fixation, particularly on companies like NVIDIA. Ozan also shares insights on the implications of de-dollarization and fiscal dominance, while analyzing the potential of an AI-driven bubble. Furthermore, he emphasizes how daily conversations with various investors shape his understanding of market trends.

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Sep 22, 2025 • 54min
Jim Cramer on the Retail Trading Revolution
Jim Cramer, a well-known television host and former hedge fund manager, passionately discusses the retail trading revolution and advocates for individual stock-picking. He shares insights from his book, emphasizing a balanced investment strategy that combines indexing with smart stock selection. Cramer reflects on his radical past, including his involvement in labor strikes, and critiques the current market's speculative trends. He also offers valuable insights into corporate transparency and risk management for investors navigating today's frothy landscape.

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Sep 20, 2025 • 46min
Michael Froman on the New 'Polyamorous' Global Trading System
In a fascinating discussion, Michael Froman, former U.S. Trade Representative and current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, explores the collapse of the old global trading system. He dives into how aggressive tariffs and shifting policies have led to a 'polyamorous' trading world, where countries engage fluidly with various partners. Froman also highlights the implications of friendshoring and the economic security tradeoffs that come with evolving alliances, offering a thought-provoking look at the future of global trade.

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Sep 19, 2025 • 53min
Henry Wang on China's Role in the New Emerging World Order
Henry Huiyao Wang, the founder and president of the Center for China and Globalization, dives deep into China's emerging role in a shifting global landscape. He discusses how China perceives its position amid rising tensions with the U.S. and explores its ambitions for peacekeeping and mediating international conflicts, like those in Ukraine. Wang also addresses the challenges posed by trade frictions and the potential for reforming institutions such as the UN, shedding light on China's vision for a new form of globalization.

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Sep 18, 2025 • 37min
Elon Musk's Pay Package and the Threat to the Delaware Corporation
Ann Lipton, a law professor and expert in corporate law, discusses the implications of Elon Musk's $56 billion pay package being invalidated by a Delaware judge. She explains why Delaware has been the go-to state for incorporation and how states like Texas and Nevada are luring businesses with favorable laws. Lipton highlights historical cases influencing corporate decisions and the potential risk of a race to the bottom in shareholder accountability. Her insights raise questions about the future of corporate governance in America.

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Sep 15, 2025 • 44min
The Cardboard Boxpocalypse and the State of the US Economy
Ryan Fox, a containers and packaging analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence, dives into the quirky world of cardboard boxes. He discusses the alarming drop in box shipments, linking it to consumer health and the broader economy. With humor, he reveals how rising box prices contradict falling demand, presenting them as an unexpected economic indicator. The conversation also highlights the challenges in e-commerce packaging and the industry's push for sustainability amid fluctuating market pressures. Get ready to think differently about the boxes around you!

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Sep 13, 2025 • 45min
Vineer Bhansali on Losing Fed Independence as the Biggest Tail Risk Right Now
Vineer Bhansali, CIO and founder of LongTail Alpha, shares his extensive knowledge of hedging against left tail outcomes while recalling his time at PIMCO with Bill Gross. He discusses the complexities of tail risk hedging, emphasizing the critical need to understand specific portfolio risks. Bhansali identifies the loss of Federal Reserve independence as a significant danger for today's markets. He also dives into the challenges of navigating market volatility and the importance of asset rebalancing in portfolio construction.