

The Trail Network Podcast
The Trail Network Podcast
The Trail Network Podcast brings the untold stories of magical moments amongst trail runners to life. These stories of runners on and off the trail capture the spirit of trailrunning and the power of friendship and connection.
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Aug 8, 2024 • 1h 3min
Episode 20: Hilary and Leah Catch Up and Dissect Long Distance Race Strategies Leading Into Hilary's Bigfoot 200 Attempt
This week, Leah Yingling and Hillary Yang catch up on where they've been and what they've got on the horizon. They chat about Hilary's upcoming plans for her first 200 mile race, which is this week at the Bigfoot 200. They talk about the Here for the Women's Race T-shirt and Women's Trail Running Fund initiative. And we hear a little bit about Leah's next month in Europe.
We also want to take a moment to dedicate this episode to Maddie Giegold. Maddie Giegold was a friend to us all and unfortunately passed away in the last couple weeks. Maddie, we love you, we miss you, and thank you for everything that you've given us.
A special thanks to Osprey for their support.
The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

Jul 25, 2024 • 39min
Episode 19: Rachel Drake and Katie Asmuth Catch Up on Life, Talking About Hardrock 100 and WSER Recovery
In this episode, hosts Rachel Drake and Katie Asmuth catch up on life after a busy few weeks! Rachel shares with us about how she is settling into living in Salt Lake City and recovering from Western States. Katie fills us in on her recent backpacking trip and her experience being at Hardrock 100.
This is a fun one, friends - enjoy!
A special thanks to Osprey for their support.
The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

Jul 18, 2024 • 1h 23min
Episode 18: Alex Staten & Stefanie Flippin - Alex's Race at Western States 100 as this Year's Gu Energy & Rising Hearts Athlete
On this week’s episode, we chat with Alex Staten and Stefanie Flippin. Alex is a trail and ultra runner from Fayetteville, Arkansas, a Diné and Mexican woman, and this year’s Gu Energy Labs and Rising Hearts athlete in the Western States Endurance Run. If you followed along with Golden Hour at Western States, you followed Alex’s journey from Olympic Valley to Placer High, where she missed the cut off on the track by 2 minutes and 50 seconds. Her day was one of rising above countless challenges and willing her body to the finish line, for reasons far beyond herself. Stef Flippin is a professional trail and ultra runner for Gu Energy labs and lululemon, physician, coach, and podcast host. She had the privilege of being a coach and holistic mentor for GU’s and Rising Hearts’ diversity runners at this year’s edition of Western States. Stef and Alex formed a lasting bond over the last year as a result of Alex’s journey to Western States. We hear about Alex’s history in ultrarunning, Alex and Stef’s coaching relationship, her WSER build, her involvement with Trail Sisters in Arkansas, the partnership between Rising Hearts and Gu Energy Labs, and ultimately, how Alex’s day at Western States played out.
A special thanks to Osprey for their support.
What we talked about:
2:35- Alex’s introduction to trail running
7:45- Stefanie’s relationship with Gu and passion for coaching
11:10- What was different for Alex for Western States versus her first 100 miler
15:35- Stefanie’s experience tailoring Alex’s training for Western States
20:00- What Alex’s training block looked like going into Western States
27:30- Being involved with the Trail Sisters organnization
34:50- Alex recapping her race start to finish
51:30- Alex’s crew during the race
55:00- When cutoffs came into play
1:06:30- Stefanie’s view of Alex’s finish
1:12:30- Running with Purpose
1:14:35- What’s next for Alex
The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

Jul 11, 2024 • 1h 19min
Episode 17: Rod Farvard After His Breakthrough Performance at Western States 100
Today, Katie Asmuth and Hilary Yang interview Rod Farvard and Tim Tollefson (Rod's pacer at Western States). Rod had a magical day at Western States, running head-to-head with the legend, Jim Walmsley, for a second place finish, making him the third fastest person to run Western States in 51 years with a finish time of 14:24 and 15 seconds. And as you probably know, those seconds really mattered at the end. He speaks of his self-belief, running in the moment, and shooting your shot. We know you're gonna love this one!
A special thanks to Osprey for their support.
What we talked about:
2:25- Rod’s recap of the race
5:35- Tim’s reflections on the race
21:15- Rod's races leading into Western States
23:35- Tim and Rod recapping and reflecting on Rod's whole race
51:10- Jim’s final pass
1:01:25- Hayden catching Rod and Tim’s perspective on that
1:10:10- Rod’s dream to win the race
The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

Jul 5, 2024 • 1h 40min
Episode 16: Rachel and Leah Take On Western States 100
In this conversation, Rachel and Leah recap their Western States 100-mile race.
They discuss their strategies during the race, including pacing and managing splits. They also talk about their experiences at aid stations and how they stayed focused and composed throughout the race. The conversation covers themes such as goal setting, pacing, and staying calm under pressure... plus some puke stories, a skunk encounter, and more! We hope you enjoy this special episode.
A special thanks to Osprey for their support.

Jun 20, 2024 • 1h 19min
Episode 15: Clare Gallagher and Brittany Peterson Relive Their Epic Head-to-Head Battle at Western States 100
This episode is made possible by Arc’teryx.
Today, you're about to listen to two legends in ultra running, Clare Gallagher and Brittany Peterson, who give a play-by-play recount of their historic 2019 Western States battle for first and second, a race that many people, myself included, believe changed ultra running forever.
Today's episode is hosted by Katie Asmuth!
Arc’teryx took their obsessive design approach and applied it to the most important point of contact with the mountains: your feet. Because when you’re out there, every step matters. Introducing the Sylan Shoe, which features a propulsive rocker, grippy Vibram outsole, and a cushy midsole to help you cover those mountain miles.
What we talked about:
2:15- Reflections on that race
4:55- Brittany’s mindset heading into the race
7:05- Clare’s mindset heading into the race
13:15- Breaking down the first half of the race
19:15- Leading up to their big race to the finish
32:55- Brittany’s mindset during the chase of Clare
42:45- Brittany making the pass
53:00- The final push where Clare secured the win
1:06:25- Favorite memories and reflections from the race
Show notes:
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The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

Jun 13, 2024 • 51min
Episode 14: Corrine Malcolm and Hilary Yang chat about Corrine's journey intro trail running, ultra running media, and new projects
This episode is made possible by Arc’teryx.
In today's episode, Hilary sits down with Corrine Malcolm. You all know her and love her as one of the primary broadcast voices in ultra running media today. She's also the host of the Trail Society podcast, the Editor in Chief of Free Trail, a professional runner for Adidas Terrex, and in her spare time, she's also a coach and a real-life scientist.
In this episode, we talk about how Corrine first got into trail running, what led her to dive into the world of ultra running media, and all of the ways that we are both passionate about elevating women's voices in our sport through media and storytelling.
Arc’teryx took their obsessive design approach and applied it to the most important point of contact with the mountains: your feet. Because when you’re out there, every step matters. Introducing the Sylan Shoe, which features a propulsive rocker, grippy Vibram outsole, and a cushy midsole to help you cover those mountain miles.
What we talked about:
2:15- Catching up with Corinne
8:30- Hilary and Corinne’s friendship
14:55- Her intro to sports broadcasting for running
26:30- How her role in media has impacted her own sports performance
30:30- Coverage of women’s sports
38:00- What Corinne sees for the future of broadcasting the sport
43:00- What’s next for Corinne
46:00- Navigating wildlife in ultrarunning
47:40- The project that Corinne and Hilary are working on for women’s sports
Show notes:
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The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

Jun 6, 2024 • 37min
Episode 13: Leah and Rachel talk all things WSER as they ramp up to the big race
This episode is made possible by Arc’teryx.
In this week's episode, Leah Yingling and Rachel Drake sit down and talk about some happenings in their lives, Rachel's recent graduation and move to Salt Lake City, and sharing takeaways from the Western States training camp.
Arc’teryx took their obsessive design approach and applied it to the most important point of contact with the mountains: your feet. Because when you’re out there, every step matters. Introducing the Sylan Shoe, which features a propulsive rocker, grippy Vibram outsole, and a cushy midsole to help you cover those mountain miles.
What we talked about:
2:30- All of the changes in Rachel’s life
6:35- Leah’s updates
7:55- Western States training camp
19:15- How Rachel has balanced parenting and training for Wester States
23:20- Some of the training runs and workouts they did at Western States
33:40- Looking ahead to the Western States race!
Show notes:
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The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

May 30, 2024 • 37min
Episode 12: Katie Asmuth & Eszter Csillag - Eszter's incredible journey intro trail running
This episode is made possible by Arc’teryx.
Today, Katie Asmuth chats with Eszter Csillag. Eszter is a professional ultrarunner for Hoka and the mom of two girls, and just defended her PhD in art history this year.
We recorded in person at our Airbnb in Old Town Auburn at Western States Training camp which really kicks of Western States season! Today, we learn about Eszter’s background with running, how we worked together for 3rd at 4th at Western States last year. She spoke about the attempt at Western States and UTMB in the same year, what she thinks about failure, and the races she has dominated since then. Eszter shares about what she calls “the machine” - the community of help that it takes to make this all happen.
We hope that you enjoy this episode and that you’ve caught Western States fever like both of us!
Arc’teryx took their obsessive design approach and applied it to the most important point of contact with the mountains: your feet. Because when you’re out there, every step matters. Introducing the Sylan Shoe, which features a propulsive rocker, grippy Vibram outsole, and a cushy midsole to help you cover those mountain miles.
What we talked about:
2:45- Racing Western States
3:30- Her intro into the sport
6:55- How her family has shifted to allow her to chase her dreams in the sport
15:00- Western States 2023
22:05- What’s different for Eszter heading into Western States this year
25:35- How she made a comeback after a tough race at UTMB last year
27:30- Receiving a PhD in art history
29:55- Fighting for equality for women in sport
Show notes:
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The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network

May 23, 2024 • 1h 29min
Episode 11: Sally McRae - Her Incredible Journey, Career, and Living Your Life to the Very Fullest
This episode is made possible by Arc’teryx.
Today, Rachel and Hilary sit down with Sally McRae for a soul-filling conversation. We talk about balancing careers with family, staying true to your north star in life, and the power of knowing who you really are.
We hope that you come away from the conversation feeling inspired to live each day as fully as possible!
Arc’teryx took their obsessive design approach and applied it to the most important point of contact with the mountains: your feet. Because when you’re out there, every step matters. Introducing the Sylan Shoe, which features a propulsive rocker, grippy Vibram outsole, and a cushy midsole to help you cover those mountain miles. During the month of May, join the Arc’teryx Run Free Challenge on Strava, and run, walk, or otherwise cover 40 total miles to be entered to win one of 40 pairs of the new Sylan shoes.
What we talked about:
3:30- Our connection to Sally
10:30- Motherhood and sport and how that has shaped her career
57:10- Sally’s family and the team they have built together
1:12:00- Words of wisdom for Western States
Show notes:
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The Trail Network Podcast is edited and produced by Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network