
Deconstruct
In Deconstruct, The Real Deal breaks down the most important ideas in real estate. We follow the money from Los Angeles to New York City to explain what investors, brokers and developers are focused on right now. This is essential listening for understanding the great, big world of real estate.
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Jul 1, 2024 • 32min
WeWork’s Global Head of Real Estate on Emerging from Bankruptcy and What Comes Next
WeWork emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy last month after a herculean effort to cut costs. The task demanded the cooperation of hundreds of landlords and their lenders. Peter Greenspan, the coworking firm’s Global Head of Real Estate, brings Deconstruct to those negotiating tables for a look at how WeWork addressed 500 leases worldwide, and offers listeners a preview of the firm’s next chapter.

Jun 24, 2024 • 18min
BGO's Chief Economist on The Fed's Next Move
Ryan Severino, BGO's Chief Economist, discusses the timing of rate cuts by the Federal Reserve, potential impacts on a cooling economy, and risks of cutting too little. Topics include inflation management, office market dynamics, and caution against aggressive rate cuts on troubled assets to prevent financial crises.

Jun 17, 2024 • 16min
Special Report: Alexander Twins Accused of Rape
Last week, The Real Deal broke the news that top broker Oren Alexander and his twin brother, Alon, had been accused of rape and sexual assault by at least two women. The complaints detail events that allegedly took place more than a decade ago. But the lawsuits and the nearly 30 people who came forward alleging similar incidents after the story published, according to an attorney representing the two women, speak to a pattern of alleged gender-based violence. Deconstruct speaks with South Florida Bureau Chief Katherine Kallergis, Reporter Sheridan Wall and Senior Editor Ellen Cranley about what we know so far.
_Warning: This episode includes descriptions of alleged sexual assault.
_This episode was recorded Friday, June 14; this is a developing story.
Katherine Kallergis can be reached at kk@therealdeal.com. Sheridan Wall can be reached at sheridan.wall@therealdeal.com. Editor Ellen Cranley can be reached at ellen.cranley@therealdeal.com.
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Jun 10, 2024 • 21min
How to Jumpstart a Stalled Condo Project
Real estate attorney Isaac Kodsi nabbed Arbor Residences out of foreclosure in late 2023 with two goals: revive the dead condo project and return deposits to former buyers. Not a year later, Kodsi says he nailed the latter goal and is on track to wrap construction by the end of 2024. South Florida Bureau Chief Katherine Kallergis interviewed Kodsi on how he paid back buyers and where sales, led by Sandra Masis of Cervera Real Estate, now stand.

Jun 3, 2024 • 27min
Opportunity, Opportunity, Opportunity: Goldman Sachs' Alternative Capital Lead on Real Estate Lending
Last month, Goldman Sachs announced it closed a new real estate credit fund, capable of handing out more than $7 billion. And with regional banks and other financial institutions reeling back their exposure to commercial real estate, Goldman Sachs sees this as the perfect time to get in on the action. Deconstruct chatted with Goldman Sachs' co-head of alternative capital formation, Jeff Fine, what asset classes it's excited about and the opportunity for private credit in real estate.

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May 28, 2024 • 28min
Dealing with Syndications 101 with LP Adviser Aleksey Chernobelskiy
LP Adviser Aleksey Chernobelskiy provides valuable insights on syndicated real estate deals, discussing the risks involved for retail investors, the challenges faced by syndicators, and the importance of transparency and communication in such investments.

May 20, 2024 • 27min
Developer Sam Charney Dissects New York's 421a Extension and New Tax Break on the Block 485x
Last month, Gov. Kathy Hochul passed a bombshell housing deal that extended the 421a tax abatement and introduced a new tax break for apartment projects: 485x. Developer Sam Charney of Charney Companies talks the profit potential of 485x compared to 421a, demand for sites eligible for the extension and when rental construction will ramp back up.

May 13, 2024 • 30min
Deconstruct Live! Talks Bank Failures, Multifamily Fears with Fortress, Benefit Street and Urban Standard
Guests from Fortress, Benefit Street, and Urban Standard discuss bank failures, distressed note buying, and lending demand. Topics include risks of bank failures, commercial real estate credit markets, borrower defaults, asset ownership, market dynamics, and future rate cuts.

May 6, 2024 • 22min
What Marijuana's Reclassifying Means For Pot Shops and Cannabis Capital
Last week, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration said it would move toward reclassifying marijuana as a less dangerous drug — Schedule III instead of Schedule I. The move has big implications for the intersection of cannabis and real estate. Founder and CEO of cannabis REIT NewLake Capital Partners Anthony Coniglio talks tax relief and opportunity for state-licensed operators and capital providers like NewLake.

Apr 29, 2024 • 33min
Looking at the Legislation Critical to Making Office-to-Residential Conversions Work
It's not just tax credits. It's not just zoning by right. To make office-to-residential conversion projects work, developers need all of the above, says Bobby Fijan of Philadelphia-based Form Developers. TRD's Deconstruct chatted with Fijan about some of the legislation, policies, subsidies and programs across the country that have helped push these conversions forward.
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