

The Resilient Pastor
Barna Group
Join pastors Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller as they invite leaders to think out loud together about the challenges and opportunities of leading a church in a rapidly changing world. In each episode, they will have a conversation about church leadership and the challenges pastors are facing. Then, they’ll share a conversation with a pastor, church leader, thinker or theologian about the health of the pastor, the state of the church and what it looks like to love well and lead faithfully.
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Jul 18, 2024 • 48min
45 | Michael Wear on Navigating Political Polarization & the Spiritual Impact of Politics
Send us a textMichael Wear sits down with Glenn Packiam to discuss what it looks like for Christians to engage in politics, how spiritual health impacts the state of our politics and some practical ways to navigate political conversations. Michael also shares his personal experience working in the White House and the challenges he’s faced as a Christian in politics. Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Michael Wear’s latest book, The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public LifePartner ResourcesDownload World Vision’s free resource “The Liberating Move of God” at WorldVision.org/BarnaPodcast.Visit rightnowmedia.org to find out how RightNow Media can serve your church.Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

Jul 4, 2024 • 45min
44 | Daniel Im on Discipleship & Spiritual Formation in a Post-Everything Age
Daniel Im, a spiritual formation expert, discusses the challenges of leading a church in a post-everything world. Topics include developing robust discipleship pathways, the role of pastors in guiding congregations, the impact of the church growth movement, and the importance of community and commitment in discipleship.

Jun 20, 2024 • 48min
43 | Lisa Whittle on the Pastoral Credibility Crisis & Rebuilding Trust
Send us a textIn this episode, Glenn, Rich and Sharon sit down to discuss the challenges pastors face in gaining and maintaining trust amidst a crisis of credibility. Then, Lisa Whittle shares her personal experience as the daughter of a pastor who experienced a public fall, emphasizing the need for accountability, compassion and grounding faith in Jesus to rebuild trust and resilience in ministry.___Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Lisa Whittle’s organization Ministry Strong.Partner ResourcesDownload World Vision’s free resource “The Liberating Move of God” at WorldVision.org/BarnaPodcast.Visit rightnowmedia.org to find out how RightNow Media can serve your church.Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

Jun 6, 2024 • 56min
42 | Carey Nieuwhof on Developing Next Gen Leaders & Leadership Succession
Send us a textCarey Nieuwhof sits down with Glenn Packiam to talk about the trends he is noticing among younger generations of church leaders, lessons he learned from his pastoral succession at Connexus Church and practical advice he’d give to young leaders entering into ministry. Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Carey Nieuwhof’s Art of Leadership Academy.Partner ResourcesDownload World Vision’s free resource “The Liberating Move of God” at WorldVision.org/BarnaPodcast.Visit rightnowmedia.org to find out how RightNow Media can serve your church.Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

May 23, 2024 • 41min
41 | Dr. Anita Phillips on Pastors’ Mental Health & Betrayal Trauma
Dr. Anita Phillips discusses pastors' mental health challenges, betrayal trauma, and the need for better support systems. They delve into the emotional complexities pastors face, the impact of isolation, and the importance of seeking therapy for mental health struggles in pastoral roles.

May 21, 2024 • 1min
Coming Soon: Season 5 of ‘The Resilient Pastor’ Podcast
Send us a textJoin Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for more conversations on pastoral well-being, church leadership and navigating the pressing cultural challenges of today. New episodes start on May 23, 2024 and will be released every other Thursday. Subscribe to never miss an episode!Follow along on Youtube.Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

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Jan 16, 2024 • 1h 8min
40 | John Mark Comer on Discipleship & Spiritual Formation
John Mark Comer, founding pastor of Bridgetown Church, discusses the limitations of a Sunday-centric model of discipleship, the power of a rule of life, and the importance of contemplative prayer, confession, and intentional experiences of suffering in spiritual formation.

Jan 2, 2024 • 48min
39 | David Kinnaman on Spiritual Backstories, Deconstruction & Resilience
David Kinnaman, CEO of Barna Group, joins hosts to discuss spiritual openness, deconstruction, and the importance of understanding people's spiritual backstories. They explore the challenges facing the church on the West Coast, the decline of religious affiliation, and the rise of deconstruction among those with a Christian backstory. The chapter emphasizes the need for authenticity and the role of Christian communities in discovering identity. They also express gratitude towards resilient pastors and introduce the Resilient Pastor Video Series as a valuable resource.

Dec 19, 2023 • 59min
38 | N.T. Wright on Vocation, Lament & Suffering
Theologian and author N.T. Wright discusses prayer and lament in the church, vocational satisfaction for pastors, and the encouragement found in Paul's letter to the Romans. They explore the challenges and suffering of following Jesus, the significance of theology in Paul's life, and the misunderstood meaning of Romans 8:28. They also reflect on the gift of lament and offer a prayer for strength and encouragement for pastors and church leaders.

Dec 12, 2023 • 48min
37 | Jeanne Stevens on Community Engagement & Global Outreach
Send us a textJeanne Stevens (pastor of Soul City Church in Chicago, IL) joins Glenn Packiam to share about how her church is engaging their local community, rethinking what global partnership can look like and what she’s learning about the power of presence through her own leadership journey. Sign up for the Resilient Pastor cohort. Early bird registration ends December 31, 2023.Learn more about Jeanne’s latest book, What’s Here Now, and discover how you can get involved with World Vision’s Chosen initiative today.Partner LinksWorld Vision: Visit WorldVision.org/Barna2024 to access the Resilient Pastor video series. Brotherhood Mutual: Learn more about the services that Brotherhood Mutual offers at BrotherhoodMutual.com.Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna GroupWant to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcastCity RoundtablesCohortAdvent Series (Week 1, Week 2)


