

The Resilient Pastor
Barna Group
Join pastors Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller as they invite leaders to think out loud together about the challenges and opportunities of leading a church in a rapidly changing world. In each episode, they will have a conversation about church leadership and the challenges pastors are facing. Then, they’ll share a conversation with a pastor, church leader, thinker or theologian about the health of the pastor, the state of the church and what it looks like to love well and lead faithfully.
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Feb 13, 2025 • 50min
54 | Jennie Allen on the Global Church & a Generation Hungry for Revival
Send us a textRich Villodas sits down with Jennie Allen, founder of IF:Gathering and Gather25, to talk about mobilizing the global church and discipling the next generation. Jennie describes the growing spiritual hunger she’s witnessing across the world, how pastors can help their churches connect with the global movement of God, and why now is the time for believers everywhere to unite in prayer, worship and mission. She also shares the vision behind Gather25, a 25-hour global event that will highlight stories of faith, transformation and evangelism from every continent.Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.Learn more about Gather25 at Gather25.com.Explore Barna’s latest research on the next generation at BarnaAccess.com.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

Jan 30, 2025 • 57min
53 | Jay Kim on Team Health & Leadership Development
Send us a textIn this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Jay Kim, lead pastor of WestGate Church in Silicon Valley, to discuss how to cultivate healthy teams in ministry. Jay shares actionable insights on fostering trust, navigating generational shifts in team dynamics and implementing consistent feedback loops to support growth and alignment for church teams.Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.Sign up for the free State of the Church 2025 webcast at StateoftheChurch.com.Learn more about Jay’s books Analog Christian and Analog Church.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.

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Jan 16, 2025 • 48min
52 | Shaila Visser & Dan Blythe on Evangelism and Engaging the Open Generation
Send us a textGlenn Packiam sits down with Shaila Visser, National Director of Alpha Canada and Dan Blythe, Global Youth Director for Alpha, to explore how pastors and church leaders can reimagine evangelism in today’s cultural landscape. Together, they share key findings from The Open Generation research and the creation of the Youth Alpha film series, offering practical insights on fostering intergenerational ministry, empowering young leaders and creating authentic spaces for faith exploration. Shaila and Dan also highlight the importance of listening in evangelism and the power of prayer in joining the Holy Spirit's work.Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna's YouTube Channel.Access The Open Generation research and insights on Barna Access Plus.Learn more about the Alpha Youth Series at Alpha.org/youth.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on Barna's podcast page.

Jan 2, 2025 • 42min
51 | 3 Ways to Strengthen Your Marriage in Ministry (Live Recording)
Send us a textJoin Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for a special live recording of The Resilient Pastor podcast as they explore the unique challenges ministry places on marriages. Together, they share practical insights, actionable steps and key strategies to help leaders safeguard their relationships and overcome common hurdles.Whether you're looking to strengthen your partnership or connect with others navigating similar challenges, this episode offers valuable wisdom and encouragement to help your marriage thrive in the pressures of ministry.-Follow along on Youtube.Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Check out the podcast page.

Dec 30, 2024 • 1min
Coming Soon: Season 6 of 'The Resilient Pastor'
Send us a textJoin Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for another season of conversations to equip you in your ministry work. In this upcoming season, we’ll be covering more pressing topics, including the relational health of pastors, engaging with the work of the global church and practical ministry challenges for pastors and leaders. New episodes start on January 2, 2025 and will be released every other Thursday. Subscribe to never miss an episode!-Follow along on Youtube.Want to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Check out the podcast page!

Sep 26, 2024 • 56min
50 | Pete Scazzero on Pastoral Credibility & Establishing Trust Within the Church
Send us a textPete Scazzero sits down with Rich Villodas to reflect on the lessons learned from his ministry journey. Together, they discuss the unique temptations pastors need to be on guard against, practical ways for pastors to lead out of their marriage and advice for the young leaders to sustain in ministry long-term.Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusCheck out Rich Villodas’ new book: The Narrow Path: How the Subversive Way of Jesus Satisfies Our SoulsWant to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

Sep 12, 2024 • 51min
49 | Jimmy and Irene Rollins on Building Healthy Marriages & Relational Support for Pastors
Send us a textJimmy and Irene Rollins join Sharon Hodde Miller to share their own journey of overcoming addiction and unpack some of the unique challenges facing pastors’ marriages. They also share some practical ways pastors can guard the health of their marriages and offer guidance on ways congregations can better support pastors and their families.Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Two Equals One Ministry: Two Equals One MinistryCheck out the Rollins’ latest book: Two Equals One BookGlenn with the double glasses: PictureWant to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

Aug 29, 2024 • 52min
48 | Mark Matlock on Rethinking Evangelism & Reaching the Spiritually Curious
Send us a textGlenn Packiam and Mark Matlock discuss how pastors can create a church environment that is open to spiritual exploration, what needs to change in our current approach to reaching the spiritually curious and some practical tips to starting those conversations. Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusLearn more about Mark Matlock’s latest book, Faith For The Curious: How an Era of Spiritual Openness Shapes the Way We Live and Help Others Follow JesusWant to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast

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Aug 15, 2024 • 47min
47 | Megan Fate Marshman on Leading Amidst Grief & Learning to Slow Down
Megan Fate Marshman, a preacher known for her insightful leadership, shares her personal journey through grief and how it shapes her ministry. She discusses the importance of vulnerability in sermons, emphasizing the need for authentic connections within church communities. Megan also explores the struggle between relaxation and hustle culture, advocating for a deeper intimacy with Jesus as a source of peace. She encourages listeners to find hope in simplicity and cultivate an honest faith amid life's challenges.

Aug 1, 2024 • 51min
46 | Reward Sibanda on Spiritual Openness in the Next Generation & the Impact of Digital Technology
Send us a textOn today’s episode of the Resilient Pastor Podcast, Glenn Packiam and Reward Sibanda discuss the gaps in spiritual openness between the Church and the next generation, the impact of digital spaces and how spiritual disciplines like fasting are connected to holistic renewal.Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s Youtube ChannelWatch the full State of Pastors webcast replayAccess the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access PlusPartner ResourcesDownload World Vision’s free resource “The Liberating Move of God” at WorldVision.org/BarnaPodcastWant to learn more about the Resilient Pastor initiative? Home PagePodcast


