

The Occupational Safety Leadership Podcast
Dr. Ayers/Applied Safety and Environmental Management
Interviews along with a Q&A format answering questions about safety. Together we‘ll help answer not just safety compliance but the strategy and tactics to implement injury elimination/severity.
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Dec 26, 2025 • 7min
Episode 293 - Make your Grass Greener by Watering It
In this episode, Dr. Ayers challenges safety professionals to stop looking for better opportunities elsewhere and instead become more valuable right where they are. He uses the metaphor “make your grass greener by watering it” to emphasize that growth comes from effort, not environment.
🔑 Key Themes
🌟 1. Growth Comes From Effort, Not Escape
Instead of wishing for a better job, better team, or better company, invest in improving your current situation.
🛠️ 2. Take On Hard Projects
Difficult tasks build capability, confidence, and credibility. They also make you indispensable.
📚 3. Learn New Skills
Skill-building is one of the fastest ways to increase your professional value—especially in safety, where technical and leadership abilities compound over time.
🧭 4. Be the Reason Things Improve
Leaders who proactively solve problems create better workplaces, better cultures, and better opportunities for themselves.
🎙️ Central Message
Your career—and your safety program—improves when you improve. Don’t wait for greener grass; water the grass you’re standing on.
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Dec 24, 2025 • 6min
Episode 292 - Time Block and Golden Hour
In this episode, Dr. Ayers speaks to his younger self about becoming more efficient and intentional with time. He focuses on two productivity tools that dramatically improve a safety professional’s effectiveness: time blocking and the golden hour.
🔑 Key Themes
🟦 Time Blocking
Protecting specific chunks of the day for focused work
Reducing distractions and task‑switching
Ensuring important safety tasks (inspections, coaching, planning) actually get done
🟨 The Golden Hour
The first hour of the day is the most powerful
Use it for high‑value, strategic work—not email or firefighting
Sets the tone for the entire day
🧭 Message to His Younger Self
Efficiency isn’t about doing more—it’s about doing the right things at the right time
Discipline with your calendar leads to better leadership, clearer thinking, and stronger safety outcomes
🎙️ Central Takeaway
Safety leaders who own their schedule gain the clarity and bandwidth needed to lead proactively instead of reactively.

Dec 20, 2025 • 6min
Episode 291 - Plan tomorrow - today
Episode 291 is one of Dr. Ayers’ short, practical leadership messages focused on daily planning as a core safety leadership skill. The theme is simple but powerful: your effectiveness tomorrow is determined by the preparation you do today.
🔍 Key Themes
1. Safety Leaders Need Intentional Planning
Dr. Ayers emphasizes that safety professionals juggle inspections, training, documentation, coaching, and unexpected issues. Without a plan, the day gets consumed by noise instead of meaningful work.
Planning the next day before you leave work helps you:
Prioritize the most important tasks
Reduce stress
Stay proactive instead of reactive
Maintain consistency in your safety program
2. Identify Your Top 3 Priorities
Rather than creating a long, unrealistic list, Dr. Ayers recommends choosing three high‑value tasks that move your safety program forward. Examples include:
Following up on a hazard report
Coaching a supervisor
Reviewing a procedure
Completing a scheduled inspection
These become your “non‑negotiables” for the next day.
3. Planning Builds Composure and Credibility
When safety leaders show up with a plan:
They appear more composed
They communicate more clearly
They follow through more consistently
Employees trust them more
A predictable leader creates a predictable safety environment.
4. Planning Reduces the Mental Load
Writing down tomorrow’s plan before leaving work:
Clears your mind
Helps you disconnect
Makes the next morning smoother
Prevents forgotten tasks
It’s a small habit with a big payoff.
⭐ Takeaways for Safety Leaders
Don’t wait until morning—plan tomorrow, today.
Choose three meaningful priorities, not a long checklist.
Preparation improves your leadership presence and reliability.
A simple planning habit strengthens your entire safety program.

Dec 15, 2025 • 25min
Episode 290 - Executive Communication and Occupational Safety
Dr. Laura Sicola—executive communication coach, cognitive linguist, and TEDx speaker—teaches that effective executive presence is built on mastering three core communication behaviors. These “3 C’s” form the backbone of how leaders influence, build trust, and drive action. This is extremely important for Safety Professionals to master.
⭐ The 3 C’s
Command the Room
This isn’t about being loud or dominating. It’s about projecting presence, confidence, and clarity so people instinctively pay attention. Key elements include:
Strong vocal delivery
Clear structure in messaging
Confident body language
Owning the space—whether in person or virtual
Dr. Sicola emphasizes that leaders must shape how others experience them, not just what they say.
Connect with the Audience
Influence requires rapport. Leaders must make others feel seen, understood, and respected. This involves:
Tailoring the message to the listener’s needs
Using relatable language
Demonstrating empathy
Listening actively
Sicola’s background in cognitive linguistics helps leaders understand how people process speech and meaning, and how to close the gap between “what you think you said” and “what they think they heard”.
Close the Deal
Every communication—meeting, presentation, hallway conversation—should move people toward a clear outcome. This means:
Being intentional about the desired result
Making the ask clearly
Guiding people to action
Ensuring alignment between message, delivery, and leadership brand
Sicola frames this as the ultimate test of influence: Did your communication drive the decision or behavior you intended?.
🎯 Why These 3 C’s Matter for Safety Leadership
For your Occupational Safety Leadership Podcast audience, these principles translate beautifully:
Command the room → Leaders who speak with clarity and confidence set the tone for safety culture.
Connect with the audience → Workers follow leaders they trust and understand.
Close the deal → Safety messages must lead to real behavior change, not just awareness.

Nov 30, 2025 • 5min
Episode 289 - Eat that Frog - Stop Procrastinating
-This episode introduces the “eat that frog” concept — a metaphor for tackling your hardest, most important (but least appealing) tasks first.
-Dr. Ayers asks the listeners to identify the task they dread or consistently procrastinate — that “frog” — and to commit to doing it first thing, rather than postponing or wasting energy avoiding it.
-The “Eat the Frog” concept is that by clearing out the most significant (and often most mentally draining) responsibility early, you reduce procrastination, build momentum, and free up time and energy for other tasks.

Nov 22, 2025 • 21min
Episode 288 - Hazardous Materials Response in Healthcare with Thomas Price
This episode focuses on how hospitals and healthcare facilities respond when a patient arrives after exposure to hazardous materials. Guest Thomas Price walks through real-world procedures for handling these incidents — including decontamination, triage zones, and coordination between transport teams and hospital response staff.
Key Takeaways & Procedures:
-Gross decontamination at the spill site — Before the patient enters the hospital, initial decontamination is ideally done where exposure occurred to reduce contamination risk.
-Hot and cold zones in hospital intake — Hospitals designate “hot” (contaminated) and “cold” (safe/clean) zones to control spread and protect staff and other patients.
-Best-practice information flow — Transporting personnel must provide detailed exposure information (type of material, exposure duration, containment status, etc.) so the receiving hospital can prepare appropriate response and treatment.
-Rapid, accurate care depends on coordination — Success hinges on smooth collaboration between first responders, hazardous materials (HAZMAT) teams, transport crews, and hospital staff — along with clear communication and protocols.
Practical Implications & Why It Matters:
-For safety officers or healthcare-adjacent roles: highlights the critical need for clear hazardous materials response plans, training, and inter-agency coordination.
-Demonstrates how response protocols can dramatically impact outcomes — not just for the exposed individual, but for hospital safety, contamination control, and public health.
-Emphasizes that effective hazardous-materials response is not just about equipment and PPE — also about communication, planning, and process.
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Nov 16, 2025 • 9min
Episode 287 - Calculating Minimum and Maximum Sampling Times
Episode 287 is an 8‑minute technical training segment where Dr. Ayers explains how to calculate the minimum and maximum sampling times for air monitoring during chemical exposure assessments. He uses Hydrogen Chloride (HCl) as the practical example to walk listeners through the math and reasoning.
🔍 Key Concepts Covered
1. Why Sampling Time Matters
Dr. Ayers emphasizes that choosing the correct sampling time is essential because:
Too short a sample may fall below the analytical detection limit
Too long a sample may overload the media
Both errors can invalidate results and compromise compliance decisions
2. Minimum Sampling Time
He explains how to determine the minimum time needed to collect enough contaminant mass for the lab to detect it reliably.
This depends on:
The analytical method’s detection limit
The expected concentration
The sampling flow rate
3. Maximum Sampling Time
He then covers how to calculate the maximum allowable time before the sampling media becomes overloaded or saturated.
This depends on:
The media capacity
The chemical’s properties
The flow rate
4. Practical Example: Hydrogen Chloride
Using HCl, Dr. Ayers demonstrates:
How to plug real numbers into the formulas
How to interpret the results
How to choose a sampling time that falls between the minimum and maximum limits
This example helps safety professionals apply the method to any chemical.
⭐ Takeaways for Safety Leaders
Proper sampling time is critical for valid, defensible exposure data.
Always calculate both minimum and maximum times before sampling.
Use real‑world examples (like HCl) to practice the math.
Good sampling strategy prevents wasted time, bad data, and compliance issues.

Nov 12, 2025 • 25min
Episode 286 - Detecting Impairment and Occupational Safety
Key Themes from Episode 286
Changing Legal Landscape With marijuana legalization expanding across states, employers face challenges in balancing compliance with safety. Traditional drug tests detect chemical presence but not actual impairment, which creates gaps in workplace safety.
Guest Expert: Ken Fichtler (CEO of Gaize) Fichtler argues for impairment detection technology that measures functional ability rather than chemical traces. His company develops tools to assess whether an employee is impaired in real time, regardless of substance type.
Limitations of Traditional Drug Testing
Chemical tests can show THC presence long after impairment has ended.
They don’t differentiate between off-duty use and on-the-job impairment.
This creates legal and ethical challenges for employers trying to enforce safety standards.
Impairment Detection Technology
Uses eye-tracking, cognitive testing, and reaction time measurements to identify impairment.
Provides objective, real-time data that can be used to prevent accidents.
Offers a more legally defensible approach since it focuses on safety outcomes rather than lifestyle policing.
⚖️ Risks, Trade-offs, and Challenges
Privacy Concerns: Employees may worry about constant monitoring or misuse of impairment data.
Legal Complexity: Laws vary by state, and employers must navigate compliance carefully.
Implementation Costs: New technology requires investment in hardware, training, and policy updates.
Cultural Resistance: Shifting from chemical testing to impairment detection may face pushback from unions or employees accustomed to traditional methods.
📌 Practical Takeaways for Safety Leaders
Shift focus from substance detection to impairment detection to align with modern legal realities.
Integrate impairment technology into safety programs—especially in high-risk industries like construction, manufacturing, and transportation.
Develop clear policies that balance employee rights with workplace safety.
Train supervisors and safety officers to interpret impairment data and act appropriately.
Communicate transparently with employees to build trust and reduce resistance.
🔍 Why This Episode Matters
Episode 286 highlights a paradigm shift in occupational safety: moving from punitive drug testing toward proactive impairment detection. For leaders, the message is clear—safety depends on real-time functional ability, not chemical presence. This approach not only improves safety outcomes but also respects evolving laws and employee rights.

Oct 31, 2025 • 26min
Episode 285 - Dr. Drew Hinton and NFPA 70E Training
Great chat with Dr. Drew Hinto on Electrical Safety and NFPA70 Training
Key Themes
NFPA 70 Overview The episode centers on NFPA 70 (National Electrical Code) and its critical role in preventing electrical hazards in workplaces. Dr. Hinton explains how proper training ensures compliance and reduces risk of shock, arc flash, and fire.
Training Gaps & Challenges Many organizations provide only minimal electrical safety training. Dr. Hinton highlights the dangers of “check-the-box” approaches and stresses the need for hands-on, scenario-based instruction.
Leadership’s Role Safety leaders must champion NFPA 70 training, not just for electricians but for all employees who may encounter electrical systems. Building a culture of awareness is key.
Practical Applications
Understanding lockout/tagout procedures in electrical contexts.
Recognizing the importance of personal protective equipment (PPE) for electrical work.
Using NFPA 70E (the standard for electrical safety in the workplace) alongside NFPA 70 to guide safe practices.
Dr. Hinton’s Insights He emphasizes that electrical incidents are often preventable with proper training and leadership commitment. He encourages leaders to integrate NFPA standards into daily operations rather than treating them as compliance checklists.
🎯 Core Message
Electrical safety isn’t just technical—it’s cultural. NFPA 70 training, when led by engaged safety leaders, empowers workers to recognize hazards, apply protective measures, and prevent catastrophic incidents.

Oct 28, 2025 • 3min
Episode 284 - Risk and Hazards in Occupational Safety
Hazards vs. Risks
Hazard: Anything with the potential to cause harm (chemicals, machinery, electricity, noise, etc.).
Risk: The probability that harm will occur, combined with the severity of the outcome.
Example: A ladder is a hazard; the risk depends on how it’s used (height, stability, training).
Risk Assessment Frameworks
Tools like the risk matrix (likelihood × severity) help quantify risks.
Leaders must prioritize risks that are both likely and severe, not just visible hazards.
Episode ties into earlier discussions (Ep. 92 & 93) on 3×3 and 4×4 risk matrices.
Control Strategies
Apply the hierarchy of controls: elimination, substitution, engineering controls, administrative controls, PPE.
Focus on reducing risk, not just identifying hazards.
Example: Noise hazard → engineering controls (soundproofing) reduce risk more effectively than just PPE.
Leadership Role
Safety leaders must communicate clearly: workers often confuse hazards with risks.
Training should emphasize risk perception—helping employees understand not just what could go wrong, but how likely and how severe it could be.
Leaders should foster a culture where workers report hazards early, so risks can be assessed and mitigated.
⚖️ Challenges & Trade-offs
Overemphasis on Hazards: Some organizations stop at hazard identification without quantifying risk.
Subjectivity in Risk Assessment: Different people may rate likelihood/severity differently.
Resource Allocation: Leaders must decide which risks to address first when budgets are limited.
Complacency: Familiar hazards may be underestimated because workers “get used to them.”
📌 Practical Takeaways for Safety Leaders
Always distinguish hazards from risks in training and communication.
Use structured risk matrices to prioritize interventions.
Apply hierarchy of controls—don’t rely solely on PPE.
Document risk assessments to strengthen compliance and defensibility.
Engage workers in identifying hazards and rating risks to build ownership.


