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The discussion reflects on Henry Kissinger's complex legacy, particularly his influence on U.S. foreign policy even at the age of 100. Anecdotes reveal his strategic decisions in pivotal moments like the Cold War and U.S.-China relations. There's a deep dive into the moral ambiguities surrounding his actions and the human costs involved. The podcast also contrasts Kissinger’s power-driven approach with Jimmy Carter’s focus on human rights, raising important ethical questions about political influence in Washington.

Isaac Chotiner, a key contributor to The New Yorker’s Q. & A. segment, shares insights on the tumultuous events shaping 2024. He delves into the complexities of Biden's foreign policy during the Gaza conflict and the implications of his controversial legacy. Chotiner also reflects on the chaotic dynamics of Trump’s re-election bid, the internal divides within the Democratic Party, and how these elements will influence Biden’s historical judgment. Plus, he reveals his hopes for future interview topics beyond Trump.

Rashid Khalidi, Professor emeritus at Columbia University and author of influential works on Palestinian history, joins Adam Kirsch, a writer and editor at The Wall Street Journal. They delve into the shifting power dynamics in the Middle East, discussing the limited support for the Palestinian cause from regional allies like Iran and Hezbollah. Khalidi emphasizes the historical roots of settler colonialism in relation to Zionism, challenging perceptions of the conflict. They also explore justice, equality, and the complexities inherent in the ongoing struggle for Palestinian identity.

Gia Tolentino, a sharp staff writer at The New Yorker, dives into the case of Luigi Mangione, recently arrested for the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. They discuss the unsettling heroization of Mangione amidst a healthcare crisis, revealing public grievances over the system. Tolentino explores the chaotic social media reactions, the complexities of personal struggles, and societal perceptions of violence. The conversation raises critical questions about privilege, justice, and how health inequities shape our narratives.

Jonathan Blitzer, a staff writer at The New Yorker and author of "Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here," dives deep into the implications of Donald Trump's mass-deportation plans. He discusses how the new administration could use military resources and legal loopholes to implement aggressive immigration policies. Blitzer highlights the shift in I.C.E. policies, predicting arrests in schools and hospitals, creating a climate of fear. He also reflects on the humanitarian challenges posed by these strategies, urging a reconsideration of public narratives around undocumented immigrants.

The panel dives into Trump's 'shock and awe' strategy for his 2025 return, discussing the implications of his controversial Secretary of Defense pick. They tackle the media's role in vetting his nominees, highlighting serious allegations against appointees. The conversation shifts to internal conflicts and Trump’s retribution themes as elections near. They also analyze public perceptions of Biden and Trump, voter apathy, and the erosion of democratic norms globally, ultimately sharing personal reflections and hopes for the new year.

Jeannie Suk Gersen, a Harvard Law professor and New Yorker contributor, delves into the profound impacts of Donald Trump's indictments on American law and politics. She discusses how these legal battles tested the concept of presidential immunity, reshaping the future of political candidacy. Gersen explores the balance between accountability and democratic integrity, raising questions about public perception and the implications for upcoming elections. The conversation also touches on the ethical challenges surrounding executive pardons, particularly in the context of Biden's actions.

Ketanji Brown Jackson, the 116th Supreme Court Justice, reflects on her historic nomination by President Biden and the challenges that followed. She discusses her powerful dissent in the affirmative action case and the need for accountability regarding judicial ethics, emphasizing trust in the Court. Jackson highlights the importance of collegiality among justices, sharing how they maintain tradition despite political pressures. Her memoir, "Lovely One," offers deep insights into her journey and family background, adding a personal touch to her impressive legal career.

David Cole, former legal director of the ACLU and law professor, dives into how America is gearing up for Trump's potential second term. He discusses effective strategies like litigation and grassroots mobilization to protect civil liberties. Cole emphasizes the importance of historical awareness in navigating today's political landscape and highlights the roles of community engagement and local activism. The conversation offers a thought-provoking look at how checks and balances can serve as vital guardrails for democracy amidst rising tensions.

The New Yorker staff writers Dexter Filkins and Clare Malone join Tyler Foggatt to examine Donald Trump’s appointments of former congressman Matt Gaetz and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., to his Cabinet.Gaetz, who has been nominated for Attorney General, is one of Trump’s most vociferous defenders and the former subject of a sex-trafficking investigation run by the Department of Justice. (Gaetz has denied all allegations.) Trump has chosen Kennedy to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, giving one of the world’s most prominent anti-vaccine activists broad powers over public health. How would these men reshape the legal and medical infrastructures of our federal government? And will they even be confirmed?This week’s reading: “How Far Would Matt Gaetz Go?,” by Dexter Filkins “R.F.K., Jr.,’s Next Move,” by Clare Malone  “Why Is Elon Musk Really Embracing Donald Trump?,” By John Cassidy  “Trump’s Cabinet of Wonders,” by David Remnick “The Most Extreme Cabinet Ever,” by Susan B. Glasser To discover more podcasts from The New Yorker, visit newyorker.com/podcasts. To send feedback on this episode, write to themail@newyorker.com. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices