
Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks
Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
Latest episodes

Sep 29, 2020 • 25min
Episode 145: On Preparing for a Tough Political Season (Part 1)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk about how pastors can prepare their people for a tough political season.

Sep 22, 2020 • 23min
Episode 144: On Lay Elders - Part 2 (with Klon Kitchen)
How do you prevent a potential friction between staff and lay elders? How do you ensure they’re not just “yes men”? How much deference should non-staff elders give others? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman, Mark Dever, and Klon Kitchen continue their conversation on lay elders.

Sep 15, 2020 • 26min
Episode 143: On Lay Elders - Part 1 (with Klon Kitchen)
Churches ought to have elders. Some will be paid (1 Tim. 5), but many will be not. These unpaid elders are called “lay elders.” Is this distinction in this Bible? Are lay elders “minor-league elders”? Are they called to ministry in the same way senior pastors are? How can a church make sure that there isn’t a deep divide between elders who are paid by the church and those who aren’t?In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Klon Kitchen (a lay elder at Cheverly Baptist Church) about these questions and more.

Sep 9, 2020 • 45min
Bible Talk — Genesis 1:1–3:19: On the Serpent, the Promised Seed, and Nahash the King of the Ammonites
In this inaugural episode of Bible Talk, Alex Duke chats with Jim Hamilton and Sam Emadi about the first three chapters of Genesis. These first three chapters of the Bible are so important because they set the trajectory for everything that comes next—all the way until we get to Revelation 22.Bible Talk is available on iTunes, Spotify and 9Marks.org.

Sep 8, 2020 • 19min
Episode 142: On Preparing for the Next Guy

Jul 28, 2020 • 1h 4min
Episode 141: On The Life and Ministry of J. I. Packer

Jul 26, 2020 • 23min
Episode 140: A Conversation about Grace Community Church's Statement on Civil Disobedience
Jonathan and Mark chat about Grace Community Church’s decision, civil disobedience, and how Christians ought to approach this season with an extra amount of charity and grace.

Jul 22, 2020 • 36min
Episode 139: On Remembering J. I. Packer
In this special episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman asks Mark Dever to reflect on his friendship with J. I. Packer.

Jul 21, 2020 • 25min
Episode 138: On What if I Don't Desire to Pray (with John Onwuchekwa)
As Christians, we know we should pray. But too often, we fail to because we simply don’t desire to.

Jul 14, 2020 • 20min
Episode 137: On What If I Don't Feel Like Going to Church (with Gunner Gundersen)
Sadly, missing church is common. Sometimes, it's for good reasons; other times, it's not. As a pastor, how many times have you heard a member tell you, "I'm so sorry we missed last Sunday—we just couldn't make it with everything we have going on!"?In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Gunner Gundersen about how we should respond to those who simply don't feel like going to church—and so they miss for this-or-that reason.