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May 21, 2025 • 53min

Full Circle

The discussion dives into the challenges of creating an end-to-end platform in real estate, sparked by Lower's acquisition of Movoto. Comparisons to seamless services offered by Amazon and Tesla highlight the difficulty of achieving a complete consumer experience. The role of real estate agents is debated, questioning if they truly provide that all-in-one solution. There’s also a look at the friction between agents and tech platforms, plus insights on the necessity of personal interactions amidst a tech-driven landscape.
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May 14, 2025 • 53min

Be Careful What You Wish For

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg examine CoStar’s recent announcement that Homes.com will boost listings banned on Zillow. They discuss whether this strategy is aimed at consumers or brokers, and whether it signals a broader battle for power in the real estate portal space. They also explore the potential implications of a proposed Illinois bill that would require public listing access by law, and debate what government involvement could mean for MLSs, agents, and listing distribution.   Watch us on YouTube!   Links: Homes.com will 'boost' listings that are banned on Zillow: Florance Don't Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight   Key Takeaways   Homes.com vs. Zillow – Discussion of CoStar’s strategy to position Homes.com as a portal that accepts listings excluded by Zillow and what it means for brokers. Do Consumers Use Multiple Portals? – Rob explores whether buyers actually use more than one or two listing sites, and what that means for listing visibility. Government Involvement in Listing Policy – Analysis of an Illinois bill proposing mandatory public access for listings and the role of Zillow and NAHREP in backing it. Public Utility Debate for MLSs – Exploration of whether MLSs could be redefined as public utilities under new regulations. Housing Affordability and Political Risks – Rob and Greg discuss how affordability pressures and political narratives could shift public perception of agents, landlords, and listing control. Shifting to a Buyer’s Market – Discussion of early signs that certain areas are flipping to buyer-favorable conditions and how that could affect pocket listings and strategy.   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob’s Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg’s Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios 
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May 7, 2025 • 51min

Back to books

The discussion dives into the cultural shift back to physical experiences, with real estate companies like Compass embracing printed listing books. The conversation also speculates on AI's role in real estate, pondering if efficiency trumps human connection. Amid societal burnout from digital life, there's a renewed fascination with analog tools, including the resurgence of tabletop gaming. The speakers humorously juxtapose traditional practices with modern technology, reflecting on the need for authentic interactions in an increasingly automated world.
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May 1, 2025 • 1h 1min

I don't think that word means what you think it means...

Rob and Greg dive into the shifting definitions of an 'open market' in real estate, spotlighting the impact of platforms like Zillow. They analyze how consumer behavior and technology are redefining this space and discuss the historical role of the MLS. The conversation humorously contrasts 'fair marketplaces' with 'open marketplaces,' questioning whether the terminology should evolve. Additionally, they explore the implications of portal dominance and the risks it poses to market fairness, all while keeping the tone lively and engaging.
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Apr 23, 2025 • 47min

You down with CCP?

Rob and Greg dive into the shifting landscape of the real estate market, exploring how MLS rule changes, especially around the Clear Cooperation Policy, are reshaping strategies for portals like Zillow and Redfin. They discuss the implications of the Rocket-Redfin merger and how vendor challenges are evolving with new data policies. The duo highlights the differences in enforcement of marketing rules across MLSs and debates the tech adjustments brokers must make. Plus, a sprinkle of AI innovations in email marketing adds an intriguing layer to the conversation.
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Apr 16, 2025 • 1h 9min

Who's Your Daddy?

Zillow's new enforcement of the Clear Cooperation Policy is a game-changer for real estate listings. The hosts debate its impact on major brokerages like Compass and eXp, questioning how it might reshape marketing strategies. They discuss the power struggle between Zillow and the National Association of Realtors, exploring how this affects industry governance and transparency. Engaging with live audience insights, they reflect on the implications for sellers, buyers, and the overall marketplace dynamic. This conversation dives deep into the shifting landscape of real estate.
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Apr 9, 2025 • 53min

Does Size Matter?

The hosts dive into the evolving landscape of the Clear Cooperation Policy and its ramifications for brokerages and MLSs. They explore how exclusive inventory strategies are shaking up competition and attracting scrutiny from the DOJ. The discussion highlights the challenges for smaller firms against large players in the real estate game. They also share insights from a recent conference, revealing the nuances of casual networking and the complexities of MLS data management. Get ready for a vibrant look at what the future holds for agents and consumers!
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Apr 2, 2025 • 56min

Clear as mud

The hosts tackle the Clear Cooperation Policy and its impending changes for real estate practices. They analyze the DOJ's investigation into the National Association of Realtors, discussing potential shifts in the industry. Next, they break down the evolving landscape of MLS policies and how major brokerages are adjusting to these challenges. The conversation dives into the implications for agents and the broader market dynamics, highlighting the ongoing power shifts within the real estate ecosystem.
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Mar 26, 2025 • 1h 2min

Has the fat lady sung on CCP?

The podcast dissects the ongoing drama surrounding the Clear Cooperation Policy and the DOJ's stance on MLS regulations. A deep dive into the implications of DOJ statements exposes potential misinterpretations. The hosts debate whether large brokerages are gaining too much power over MLS data, challenging traditional listings. They also explore how exclusive lists could reshape the future of real estate. As the narrative on the Chinese Communist Party shifts, listeners are left pondering the potential for significant changes in both real estate and global politics.
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Mar 19, 2025 • 53min

Organized Real Estate's Head Spinning Week

Major real estate news shakes the industry this week. Rumors fly about Compass potentially acquiring Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices, though the BHHS CEO strongly denies it. Meanwhile, the merger between Redfin and Rocket is set to disrupt the brokerage landscape, pushing them closer to competing with Zillow. The National Association of Realtors' proposal to make Clear Cooperation Policies optional raises concerns about legal liabilities and MLS compliance. Could these changes signal a larger shift in traditional brokerages?

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