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Feb 26, 2025 • 58min

Let Freedom Ring!

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the latest in the ongoing battle over NAR’s three-way agreement and how Phoenix Realtors’ recent compromise with NAR might reshape the industry. They explore whether this is a true win for NAR or just the beginning of a major shift, debating the rise of the “Freedom Plan” and how it could spread across the country. With bold predictions, deep industry insights, and a fair amount of sarcasm, this episode is a must-listen for anyone keeping an eye on real estate governance.   Key Takeaways • Phoenix Realtors’ “Compromise”: Did they cave to NAR, or did they find a way to rewrite the rules on their own terms? • The Freedom Plan vs. Realtor Membership: How the rebranded “Non-Member MLS Access” could be the start of a larger movement. • Will Other Associations Follow?: If Phoenix can do it, why wouldn’t Scottsdale and other local associations jump on board? • State Associations’ Next Move: Will Arizona Realtors create their own version of the Freedom Plan to retain members? • Is the Three-Way Agreement Dead?: Rob argues that this move could mark the beginning of the end for NAR’s traditional membership structure   Inman News: NAR, Phoenix Realtors settle fight over MLS Choice   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios
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Feb 19, 2025 • 39min

Live from the Virtual MLS Summit its Rob and Greg!

This live discussion tackles the evolving meaning of cooperation in real estate, especially as compensation models shift. The hosts debate whether MLSs should remain broker cooperatives or if associations hold too much power. They delve into the complexities of fiduciary duties and trust, emphasizing the importance of transparency. Moreover, global perspectives reveal why other countries admire the U.S. MLS system, raising concerns about potential losses if major changes occur. Prepare for some heated exchanges between the hosts!
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Feb 12, 2025 • 59min

What to do about Zombies

The debate rages on about the necessity of NAR's fight for survival. Bold real estate leaders like Michelle Harrington are advocating for authenticity over corporate jargon. With a recent settlement of $10.5 million, smaller brokerages feel the pressure of rising legal challenges. The discussion contrasts engaged 'super members' with the disengaged 'zombie members', emphasizing the need for genuine connections. Should NAR have surrendered years ago to avoid these issues? It's a thought-provoking examination of the industry's current landscape.
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Feb 5, 2025 • 56min

MLS Reset Recap

The hosts explore key insights from the recent MLS Reset conference, discussing governance reform and the need for reduced board sizes. They debate the competition among Multiple Listing Services while advocating for effective data-sharing agreements. The conversation highlights innovative ideas, including a concept for a trusted data brand. Humor also plays a role, as they share thoughts on the art of engaging presentations and the need for captivating storytelling in professional settings. This engaging discussion offers plenty of takeaways for industry professionals.
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Jan 15, 2025 • 46min

It ain't over yet

Rob and Greg dive into the Supreme Court's denial of NAR's cert petition and its implications for DOJ's antitrust investigations. They discuss ongoing commission lawsuits and potential impacts on first-time homebuyers. The hosts explore rising housing market pressures, including costs and inventory shifts affecting rentals and sales. They also highlight upcoming events like the MLS Reset Conference and their first live stream, setting the stage for a transformative chapter in real estate.
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Jan 8, 2025 • 1h

I Can't Make You Love Me

Explore the bold moves by Phoenix Realtors as they challenge traditional agreements in real estate. The discussion delves into member-driven value propositions and the necessity for NAR to reinvent itself to attract and retain agents. Leadership challenges take center stage, with speculation on whether celebrity figures could reshape the narrative. The future of Realtor memberships is scrutinized, raising essential questions about what agents truly value in a dynamic landscape.
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Jan 1, 2025 • 1h 1min

Rob and Greg look ahead to 2025

Rob and Greg dive into predictions for 2025, analyzing transaction volumes and mortgage rates while considering the future of MLSs. They debate the possibility of the three-way agreement unraveling and what that could mean for real estate associations. The discussion highlights the importance of community engagement, referencing cultural shifts and the decline of social organizations. Speculation on mergers and acquisitions in the industry adds a thrilling twist, making for an insightful glimpse into the evolving landscape of real estate.
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Dec 25, 2024 • 54min

2024 ORE Year End Recap

2024 has been labeled 'The Year of the Settlement,' showcasing monumental shifts in real estate. High-interest rates and dwindling inventory continue to challenge market morale. The decline of the NAR is causing a reevaluation of its role, while Compass's acquisition strategies raise eyebrows. Amid controversies, the Clear Cooperation Policy's evolving debate highlights future implications for MLSs. The hosts speculate on the upcoming changes that could lead to Real Estate 4.0, indicating a profound transformation in the industry ahead.
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Dec 18, 2024 • 53min

Choking on NAR's Kielbasa

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle the latest controversies surrounding NAR  and the recent investigative article from The New York Times. They debate the role of lobbying, explore accusations of corruption and financial mismanagement, and reflect on the broader challenges facing NAR’s leadership and reputation. Key Takeaways • NAR and Lobbying Controversy: Discussion on how NAR funnels money to political groups through entities like the American Property Owners Alliance (APOA). • The “Woke vs. Conservative” Debate: Examining NAR’s conflicting image as both progressive and a supporter of conservative causes. • Transparency Issues: Why NAR’s approach to handling controversies feels “astroturfy” and the need for more open dialogue with members. • Organizing Homeowners: The untapped potential of grassroots homeowner advocacy and how it could reshape lobbying strategies. • PR Missteps: Criticism of NAR’s traditional PR playbook and a call for leadership to adopt more authentic communication strategies.   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios
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Dec 11, 2024 • 1h 5min

Supply, Demand and Deregulation with Professor Bryan Caplan

Overview In this special episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg welcome economist and author Professor Bryan Caplan to discuss his latest book, Build Baby Build: The Science and Ethics of Housing Regulation. The trio dives into the housing crisis, exploring how deregulation could address affordability, inequality, and other societal issues. Bryan’s insights challenge conventional thinking, offering bold solutions for the future of housing.   Key Takeaways • Core Argument: Bryan argues that excessive housing regulations have driven up costs, stifled innovation, and exacerbated inequality, advocating for widespread deregulation. • The 50% Reduction Claim: Deregulation could halve housing prices nationwide by enabling construction and reducing bureaucratic hurdles. • NIMBYism and Local Politics: Local resistance to development, often driven by fear and misinformation, remains a significant barrier to solving the housing crisis. • Economic and Social Benefits: Lower housing costs could address issues like inequality, mobility, and declining birth rates, while also improving quality of life. • Role of Realtors: Real estate professionals and associations could play a pivotal role in advocating for deregulation to increase housing supply and affordability.   Watch Us on YouTube   Check out Bryan's amazing graphic novel: Build Baby Build: The Science and Ethics of Housing Regulation   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob’s Website Greg’s Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

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