

When Shift Happens Podcast
Kevin Follonier
I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
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Dec 4, 2025 • 1h 22min
E150: Meow From Jupiter: How We're Bringing Crypto To 1 Billion People
Meow, founder of Jupiter, a leading DEX aggregator on Solana, discusses his mission to make crypto accessible to everyone. He shares the journey of building a platform that has handled over $2 trillion in volume, while shedding light on the token's struggles due to communication failures. The conversation dives into insights on the negative image of crypto, the importance of user experience, and innovative features like gasless transactions. Meow emphasizes the goal to position Jupiter as the 'Google of finance' while navigating challenges in the rapidly evolving DeFi landscape.

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Nov 27, 2025 • 1h 17min
E149: Trezor CEO: How 98% of Crypto Users Are Vulnerable to HACKS (you could be next)
Matej Zak, CEO of Trezor and co-creator of the first hardware wallet, discusses the shocking reality that 98% of crypto users are susceptible to hacks. He explains the risks of trusting exchanges versus embracing self-custody, making a compelling case for why proper ownership is essential. Matej also dives into the significance of hardware wallets, highlights the challenges for widespread adoption, and warns about the vulnerabilities of popular wallet options. His insights into open-source security and innovations in wallet technology provide a fascinating glimpse into the future of crypto safety.

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Nov 20, 2025 • 1h 51min
E148: Coinbase Founder: How I Built The Largest Crypto Exchange to $100 Billion in 9 years
Brian Armstrong, Co-founder and CEO of Coinbase, shares his journey from founding a startup during Bitcoin's infancy to leading a $100 billion company. He discusses the challenges of navigating regulators and market crashes, his introverted nature, and the importance of economic freedom through crypto. Armstrong also reflects on personal insecurities, founder dynamics, and minimizing burnout. He envisions a future with one billion users benefiting from sound money and financial services, emphasizing the transformational power of action over analysis.

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Nov 13, 2025 • 1h 9min
E147: Paradex CEO: Why Crypto Exchanges Are Replacing Wall Street (it's already happening)
Anand Gomes, Founder and CEO of Paradex, talks about the rise of decentralized exchanges as the new financial hubs, combining various banking functionalities into one zero-fee platform. He discusses the sustainability of their model, emphasizing how they charge makers instead of takers. Anand explains why Ethereum is central to this shift and predicts that traditional financial centers could face irrelevance unless they adapt. He reflects on the evolution of decentralized finance, its advantages, and the critical role of speculation in price discovery.

Nov 6, 2025 • 49min
E146: Helius CEO: Why Your Crypto Balance Isn't Private (And Why That's Dangerous)
Mert Mumtaz, CEO of Helius and a privacy advocate, dives into the pressing issues of crypto transparency and infrastructure. He discusses why privacy is crucial for freedom and highlights Zcash’s role as ‘internet cash.’ Mert elaborates on the concepts of connectivity and reflexivity, explaining how these drive market volatility. Through personal anecdotes, including how a relationship shifted his business perspective, he emphasizes integrity in social media. Mert's long-term vision for Solana and his insights on investment strategies round out this engaging conversation.

Oct 30, 2025 • 59min
E145: Story Protocol Founder: How Crypto Could Finally Unlock an $80 Trillion Asset Class
Seung Yoon Lee, CEO and co-founder of Story Protocol, previously founded Radish Fiction, successfully selling it to Kakao for $440 million. In this conversation, he unveils the revolutionary vision behind Story Protocol, which aims to turn intellectual property into tradable assets. He discusses the profound issues with creator compensation on platforms like Netflix and how blockchain can empower creators. Seung also introduces the ARIA Protocol for music IP and envisions a future where modular IP assets become building blocks for AI-driven creativity.

Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 31min
E144: Meteora: The Team Behind Crypto's Biggest Launches Reveals Everything (Kanye, TRUMP, LIBRA)
Discover the team behind cryptocurrency's high-profile launches! They discuss building advanced liquidity for major tokens like Kanye's and TRUMP's, diving into the mechanics of decentralized finance. Learn about their growth strategy post-FTX and how they've rebranded for trust. They reveal the challenges of launching meme coins and the vision to make DeFi accessible for all. With innovative tools for security and transparency, the future looks bright for mainstream integration of crypto assets!

Oct 15, 2025 • 35min
E143: USDT Founder: Bitcoin, Gold, Stablecoin, & Tether, the Most Profitable Company in the World
Paolo Ardoino, CEO of Tether and CTO of Bitfinex, dives into his journey of creating USDT, the world's leading stablecoin that aids 3 billion unbanked individuals. He shares insights on Tether's extraordinary profit per employee and operational efficiency, driven by high-interest rates and scalable practices. Ardoino also discusses coding as his artistic expression and Tether's investment in Juventus to modernize football and engage fans globally. Lastly, he highlights stablecoins' crucial role in providing financial stability in inflation-ridden countries.

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Oct 9, 2025 • 55min
E142: Arthur Hayes: Buy Bitcoin Before 2028 (if you want to get rich)
Arthur Hayes, former CEO of BitMEX and crypto entrepreneur, shares his bold prediction that Bitcoin could soar to $1 million by 2028. He discusses why he prefers holding Bitcoin over other tokens and outlines a careful macroeconomic framework driving his investment strategies. Arthur highlights the importance of dollar stablecoins globally and explains his barbell approach to portfolio management. With insights on adaptability in crypto, he emphasizes that wealth comes from hard work and a focus on meaningful experiences.

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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 3min
E141: Mark Moss: How to Get Rich With Bitcoin (without getting lucky)
Mark Moss, an investor and Bitcoin strategist, dives into how to build real wealth with Bitcoin. He discusses the flawed fiat system and reveals that inflation is actually causing losses around 10-15% annually. Mark shares ambitious predictions for Bitcoin's future value, estimating $1 million by 2030 and $45 million by 2050. He emphasizes the importance of creating businesses for wealth, advocating against a gambling mindset, and offers life-planning strategies for 30–40 year-olds to achieve their financial goals.


