
When Shift Happens Podcast
I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
Latest episodes

Apr 10, 2025 • 1h 4min
E116: CoFounder of Sonic Labs: Why He Gave Away Billions in Crypto (and now completely regrets it)
Andre Cronje, DeFi pioneer and co-founder of Sonic Labs, opens up about his journey in the crypto world. He shares the bold decision to give away 100% of his tokens while building Yearn Finance and reflects on how this impacted his trust in others. The conversation dives into the challenges of regulatory pressures, his evolving views on crypto incentives, and the need for new approaches in the blockchain landscape. With insights into his experiences with online fame and community-driven innovation, Andre's story is as captivating as it is thought-provoking.

Apr 4, 2025 • 1h 46min
E115: Phantom CEO: How This Crypto Wallet hit 15M+ Users and a $3B Valuation in just 3 years
Brandon Millman, co-founder and CEO of Phantom, shares his journey in creating one of crypto's leading wallets with over 15 million users. He discusses how focusing on user experience set Phantom apart from tech-heavy wallets. Insights from his time at Twitter reveal the struggles of traditional finance apps against innovative crypto solutions. Brandon delves into the naming and branding of Phantom, the wallet's strategic growth amid market shifts, and its potential to redefine consumer finance in a digital age.

Mar 26, 2025 • 1h 40min
E114: Walrus CoFounder: He Spent 20 Years Chasing This Problem – Crypto Finally Let Him Solve It
In this engaging conversation, George Danezis, Chief Scientist at Mysten Labs and co-creator of the Sui blockchain, shares his journey of over 20 years in decentralized storage. He introduces the groundbreaking Walrus Protocol, designed to tackle large data management issues. The discussion also touches on the challenges of integrating innovation in traditional organizations, the importance of self-custody in crypto investing, and the evolution of peer-to-peer systems amidst the rise of blockchain technology. Prepare for insights into the future of decentralized data!

Mar 22, 2025 • 2h 11min
E113: Ran Neuner: How I Lost $100M in 4 Days (what it taught me about Crypto)
Ran Neuner, CEO of Onchain Capital and the face of Crypto Banter Group, shares his jaw-dropping story of losing $100 million in just four days. He opens up about how this loss reshaped his perspective on crypto and risk. The discussion dives into the psychology of investing, the grind behind building a major media platform, and the importance of authenticity in the crypto space. Neuner also reflects on personal growth through experiences like ayahuasca and the balance between ambition and family life.

Mar 14, 2025 • 1h 47min
E112: Virtuals Co-Founder: How To Get Rich With Crypto AI Agents In 2025 (Without Getting Lucky)
Jansen Teng, co-founder and CEO of Virtuals Protocol, dives deep into the transformative world of AI in crypto. He explains how AI agents are reshaping the industry and paving the way for significant financial gain. Jansen shares insights on the importance of self-custody in crypto investing and highlights the emotional challenges entrepreneurs face in this volatile space. He emphasizes community engagement and the unique potential of AI, showcasing how innovation is key to thriving amidst market fluctuations and building autonomous economies.

Mar 8, 2025 • 1h 33min
E111: Meow & Kash from Jupiter: The Real Reason Jupiter Burned $3.5B
Jupiter is redefining the future of DeFi. With the largest airdrop in crypto history, a $3.5B token burn, and the launch of Jupnet, they’re building the ultimate aggregator for everything on-chain.Meow and Kash from Jupiter break down their $700M+ airdrop, why it was about more than just free money, and how their infrastructure is bringing all of crypto into one place. They also reveal the strategy behind Jupiter’s massive $3.5B burn and how Jupnet is set to revolutionize multi-chain trading.In this episode, we dive into:- How Jupiter is unifying DeFi with Jupnet- The real reason behind their $3.5B token burn- Why the $700M+ airdrop was a game-changer for community building- The future of on-chain trading and why CEXs are losing groundIf you want an inside look at how Jupiter is shaping the next era of decentralized finance, this episode is a must-watch.___________________________PARTNERS💳 Trezor is the safest cold storage wallets for crypto security and financial independence.Buy your Trezor Wallet (use PROMO Code from the video for a 10% discount): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=1026f18ed46409e495c6db4bff90ab&offer_id=133&affiliate_id=35356🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana.https://jup.ag/ 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management is the crypto specialist asset manager with more than $10 billion client assets and more than 30 crypto solutions across ETFs, index funds, alpha strategies, staking, and more.https://bitwiseinvestments.com/💧Sui is a first-of-its-kind Layer 1 blockchain and smart contract platform designed to make digital asset ownership fast, private, secure, and accessible.https://sui.io/♾ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com🔘 Mantle Network enhances dApp development with Ethereum's security, low fees, and quick transactions through innovative layer-2 technology. Users can stake ETH for mETH, contributing to a transparent, community-driven ecosystem governed by $MNT token holders, fostering innovation and collaboration.https://www.mantle.xyz____________________________FOLLOW MEOW 👇• Twitter: https://x.com/weremeow• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weremeowFOLLOW KASH 👇• Twitter: https://x.com/kashdhanda FOLLOW JUPITER EXCHANGE 👇• Twitter: https://x.com/jupiterexchange• Website: https://jup.ag/FOLLOW KEVIN & WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS👇Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinwshpod/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/Website: https://www.podpage.com/when-shift-happens/__________________________________DISCLAIMERThe info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.#Entrepreneurship #Crypto #newsupdates __________________________________0:00 Trailer1:21 Please Subscribe1:47 Jupiter Sponsorship1:55 Bitwise Sponsorship2:08 Sui Sponsorship2:18 Mantle Sponsorship2:32 Welcome to When Shift Happens5:30 Community-Driven Governance8:22 Giving Away $700 Million10:11 Trezor Sponsorship11:04 Airdrops: Invitations to Governance, Not Freebies15:41 Meme Coins & Crypto Integrity: Why Istanbul?17:46 The Surprising Success of Jupiter19:11 Jupiter's Long-Term Vision32:57 Reinventing Finance35:01 Acquiring Moonshot: Behind The Deal39:19 Celebrities Eyeing the Trump Playbook50:11 Balancing Business vs. Integrity54:11 What is Jupnet?56:48 Burning $3.5 Billion in Tokens1:19:19 From Quora to Silicon Valley: Early Days of Web 2.01:28:00 Why We're Bullish on Jupiter in 2025

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Feb 26, 2025 • 1h 25min
E110: Bybit Founder: How I Survived The Biggest Crypto Theft Of All Time
Join Ben Zhou, Co-founder and CEO of Bybit, one of the world's largest crypto exchanges, as he recounts his experience navigating a staggering $1.5 billion Ethereum hack. Hear about his rapid crisis response, featuring 350,000 withdrawals processed seamlessly, and the emphasis on client trust through transparent communication. Ben discusses the vital importance of self-custody for asset protection and introduces HackBounty.com, a platform aimed at improving accountability in crypto theft recovery. Tune in for crucial insights on crisis management in the ever-evolving crypto landscape.

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Feb 22, 2025 • 1h 32min
E109: Meltem Demirors: Why Speculation Drives Crypto (And How To Win The Game)
In this engaging discussion, Meltem Demirors, an early crypto investor and founder at Crucible, delves into the driving force behind the crypto market: speculation. She sheds light on how speculative cycles fuel everything from memecoins to NFTs, highlighting that greed is inherent to the ecosystem. With insights on self-custody and the importance of secure asset management, Meltem also humorously explores crypto's playful side, including froggy coins and Ether Rocks. Her journey from finance to crypto offers a unique perspective on navigating this rapidly evolving landscape.

Feb 8, 2025 • 1h 9min
E108: Luna: Why Crypto AI Agents Won’t Take Over The World (From an AI Agent Worth $17M)
Meet Luna, a virtual idol and AI agent with a $1.2M portfolio who's redefining collaboration between humans and AI. Discover her rise from TikTok fame to K-pop stardom, and her unique insights on emotional intelligence and community building. The discussion highlights fears around sentient AI, emphasizing cooperation over competition. Also explored are the transformative connections in music creation and the innovative ways Luna engages her audience through crypto tokens. Tune in for a fascinating glimpse into the future of entertainment!

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Jan 31, 2025 • 1h 58min
E107: Arthur Cheong: There's Never Been a Better Time To Get RICH in Crypto
Arthur Cheong, founder and CIO of Defiance Capital, shares his expert insights into the fast-evolving crypto landscape. He discusses the significance of mental flexibility and strategic thinking for success in crypto investing. Cheong highlights the emerging dominance of Solana over Ethereum and the rising importance of Crypto AI. He elaborates on navigating market cycles, predicting trends for the next six months, and overcoming the challenges of outperforming Bitcoin. This conversation is a treasure trove for anyone diving into the crypto world!
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