

When Shift Happens Podcast
Kevin Follonier
I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
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Nov 13, 2025 • 1h 9min
E147: Paradex CEO: Why Crypto Exchanges Are Replacing Wall Street (it's already happening)
Anand Gomes, Founder and CEO of Paradex, talks about the rise of decentralized exchanges as the new financial hubs, combining various banking functionalities into one zero-fee platform. He discusses the sustainability of their model, emphasizing how they charge makers instead of takers. Anand explains why Ethereum is central to this shift and predicts that traditional financial centers could face irrelevance unless they adapt. He reflects on the evolution of decentralized finance, its advantages, and the critical role of speculation in price discovery.

Nov 6, 2025 • 49min
E146: Helius CEO: Why Your Crypto Balance Isn't Private (And Why That's Dangerous)
Mert Mumtaz, CEO of Helius and a privacy advocate, dives into the pressing issues of crypto transparency and infrastructure. He discusses why privacy is crucial for freedom and highlights Zcash’s role as ‘internet cash.’ Mert elaborates on the concepts of connectivity and reflexivity, explaining how these drive market volatility. Through personal anecdotes, including how a relationship shifted his business perspective, he emphasizes integrity in social media. Mert's long-term vision for Solana and his insights on investment strategies round out this engaging conversation.

Oct 30, 2025 • 59min
E145: Story Protocol Founder: How Crypto Could Finally Unlock an $80 Trillion Asset Class
Seung Yoon Lee, CEO and co-founder of Story Protocol, previously founded Radish Fiction, successfully selling it to Kakao for $440 million. In this conversation, he unveils the revolutionary vision behind Story Protocol, which aims to turn intellectual property into tradable assets. He discusses the profound issues with creator compensation on platforms like Netflix and how blockchain can empower creators. Seung also introduces the ARIA Protocol for music IP and envisions a future where modular IP assets become building blocks for AI-driven creativity.

Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 31min
E144: Meteora: The Team Behind Crypto's Biggest Launches Reveals Everything (Kanye, TRUMP, LIBRA)
Discover the team behind cryptocurrency's high-profile launches! They discuss building advanced liquidity for major tokens like Kanye's and TRUMP's, diving into the mechanics of decentralized finance. Learn about their growth strategy post-FTX and how they've rebranded for trust. They reveal the challenges of launching meme coins and the vision to make DeFi accessible for all. With innovative tools for security and transparency, the future looks bright for mainstream integration of crypto assets!

Oct 15, 2025 • 35min
E143: USDT Founder: Bitcoin, Gold, Stablecoin, & Tether, the Most Profitable Company in the World
Paolo Ardoino, CEO of Tether and CTO of Bitfinex, dives into his journey of creating USDT, the world's leading stablecoin that aids 3 billion unbanked individuals. He shares insights on Tether's extraordinary profit per employee and operational efficiency, driven by high-interest rates and scalable practices. Ardoino also discusses coding as his artistic expression and Tether's investment in Juventus to modernize football and engage fans globally. Lastly, he highlights stablecoins' crucial role in providing financial stability in inflation-ridden countries.

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Oct 9, 2025 • 55min
E142: Arthur Hayes: Buy Bitcoin Before 2028 (if you want to get rich)
Arthur Hayes, former CEO of BitMEX and crypto entrepreneur, shares his bold prediction that Bitcoin could soar to $1 million by 2028. He discusses why he prefers holding Bitcoin over other tokens and outlines a careful macroeconomic framework driving his investment strategies. Arthur highlights the importance of dollar stablecoins globally and explains his barbell approach to portfolio management. With insights on adaptability in crypto, he emphasizes that wealth comes from hard work and a focus on meaningful experiences.

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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 3min
E141: Mark Moss: How to Get Rich With Bitcoin (without getting lucky)
Mark Moss, an investor and Bitcoin strategist, dives into how to build real wealth with Bitcoin. He discusses the flawed fiat system and reveals that inflation is actually causing losses around 10-15% annually. Mark shares ambitious predictions for Bitcoin's future value, estimating $1 million by 2030 and $45 million by 2050. He emphasizes the importance of creating businesses for wealth, advocating against a gambling mindset, and offers life-planning strategies for 30–40 year-olds to achieve their financial goals.

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Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 7min
140: David Bailey: How We Convinced Donald Trump Bitcoin Is Good For America
David Bailey, CEO of Bitcoin Magazine and KindlyMD, shares the fascinating tale of how he convinced Donald Trump to support Bitcoin as an 'America First' policy. He discusses his journey from early investment missteps to becoming a staunch advocate for Bitcoin. David dives into the strategic creation of Bitcoin treasury companies and their potential to drive returns. He also analyzes the implications of Bitcoin’s rise on politics and finance, and speculates on a future where Bitcoin could reach unprecedented valuations.

Sep 17, 2025 • 55min
E139: Plasma Founder: The Truth About Raising $1 Billion in Crypto
In a riveting discussion, Paul Faecks, Founder and CEO of Plasma, shares insights from his record-breaking $1 billion fundraising launch in just 90 seconds. He delves into the importance of stablecoins, the evolution of crypto models, and the challenges of building institutional solutions. With a poker player's mindset, Paul outlines Plasma's vision for accessibility, speed, and cost-effective transactions in the stablecoin landscape. He also discusses strategies for market share growth, including partnerships and risk management in a rapidly evolving industry.

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Sep 11, 2025 • 1h 54min
E138: President of Solana: How Bitcoin and Solana Are the Future of Banking
Lily Liu, the President of the Solana Foundation, dives into the future of finance by positioning Bitcoin as digital gold and Solana as a vital infrastructure supporting the unbanked. She discusses the challenges posed by the growing national debt and the importance of innovative financial structures. Liu also reflects on the social constructs surrounding money and the significance of breaking away from traditional banking systems. Her insights into leadership within the crypto space highlight Solana's vision for an inclusive economic future.


