

When Shift Happens Podcast
Kevin Follonier
I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
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27 snips
Aug 21, 2025 • 2h 17min
E135: Chainlink CoFounder: Why Crypto Needs Wall Street to Go Mainstream
Sergey Nazarov, the co-founder and CEO of Chainlink, discusses the pivotal role of traditional finance in driving cryptocurrency's mainstream adoption. He explains why institutions aren't crypto's adversaries but essential partners. The conversation covers the limitations of traditional banking versus the security and transparency blockchain offers, and how Chainlink’s infrastructure enhances smart contracts. Sergey also delves into the importance of self-custody and navigating the evolving landscape of decentralized finance amidst market volatility.

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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 18min
E134: Bitwise CIO: It's Boring, But It Will Make You Rich in Crypto
Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise Asset Management, shares why his "boring" crypto strategy beat 96% of fund managers with 12x returns over seven years. He dives into his 80/20 portfolio rule and predicts Bitcoin could hit $200K by 2025. The discussion emphasizes the rise of institutional investment and the need for clear, disciplined approaches to cryptocurrency. Matt also breaks down complex crypto concepts for easy understanding and advocates for a balanced investment strategy amidst market volatility.

Aug 7, 2025 • 1h 17min
E133: SUI Network CoFounder: The Real Problem With Crypto Security
In this conversation, Sam Blackshear, Co-founder and CTO of Mysten Labs, shares insights into the Sui Network and the innovative Move programming language he created. He reveals flaws in current blockchain architectures and discusses how Move enhances smart contract safety. Sam emphasizes the importance of curiosity and creative problem-solving in tech. He also addresses crypto security challenges like self-custody measures and how programming memory safety can prevent breaches. His journey from academia to significant projects provides an inspiring perspective on innovation in cryptocurrency.

30 snips
Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 24min
E132: Wintermute CEO Solves Crypto’s Biggest Conspiracies
Evgeny Gaevoy, Founder and CEO of Wintermute, is a powerhouse in the crypto world, known for driving token launches and ensuring market liquidity. In this engaging discussion, he tackles the absurdity of market manipulation claims, shares his journey from 1990s Russia to building a billion-dollar empire, and reveals his dream of colonizing Mars. Evgeny also unpacks the ethics of market making, the challenges of secure crypto storage, and the importance of long-term strategies, all while blending humor and insight into the complex landscape of cryptocurrency.

11 snips
Jul 24, 2025 • 1h 44min
E131: Anchorage Co-Founder: Built America's First Crypto Bank
Diogo Mónica, co-founder of Anchorage Digital, discusses his journey in establishing America's first federally chartered crypto bank, managing over $60 billion in digital assets. He shares his experience of recovering a lost $1.5 million Bitcoin wallet, which inspired him to address the urgent need for institutional crypto custody. The conversation touches on the importance of self-custody in crypto investing, the influence of personal growth on entrepreneurship, and the balance between family life and professional commitments in the fast-paced crypto sector.

29 snips
Jul 17, 2025 • 1h 12min
E130: Pudgy Penguins CEO : The Biggest Ethereum Shift is Coming & the huge PENGU comeback!
Luca Netz, the visionary founder of Pudgy Penguins, discusses the tumultuous journey of navigating the crypto landscape. He shares insights on surviving significant market crashes while building a thriving NFT ecosystem. The conversation highlights an upcoming Ethereum cultural shift favoring builders and the launch of a new meme coin aimed at enhancing community engagement. Luca emphasizes the anticipated resurgence of NFTs tied to stablecoin adoption, showcasing the evolving strategies within the crypto space.

14 snips
Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 22min
E129: 10TFund Founder: Wall Street Investor's Bold Crypto Prediction (Bitcoin $1M)
Dan Tapiero, a 25-year Wall Street veteran and founder of 10TFund, shares insights from his extensive trading career. He dives into why Bitcoin could reach $1 million in the next decade, pushing for institutional crypto adoption. The discussion also covers the importance of self-custody in crypto, personal anecdotes on balancing health and work, and the emotional challenges of investing in volatile markets like Bitcoin and Ethereum. Plus, he contrasts traditional art with the NFT landscape, offering a fresh perspective on both worlds.

11 snips
Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 3min
E128: Bitwise Founder: Why 2025 Is Crypto's Greatest Year Ever
Hunter Horsley, CEO of Bitwise, dives into why 2025 could be revolutionary for crypto, particularly Bitcoin. He discusses how financial institutions are becoming allies in Bitcoin's adoption. Hunter underscores the importance of endurance in the crypto world, explaining how Bitwise has thrived through challenges. He advocates for self-custody of assets and presents a compelling case for companies adopting Bitcoin as a reserve asset. With optimism for shifting perceptions, he highlights the potential of digital assets to redefine financial strategies.

Jun 27, 2025 • 53min
E127: Ripple Cofounder: How We Built Crypto Solutions Banks Actually Trust
Chris Larsen, co-founder and executive chairman of Ripple Labs, shares insights on building trusted crypto solutions for banks, opting for collaboration over disruption. He discusses the importance of compliance and strategic decisions that helped transform Ripple into a $15 billion powerhouse. Larsen emphasizes why enterprise-focused crypto is more viable than consumer options, and reflects on the regulatory challenges often overlooked in the industry. His journey illustrates the balance of patience, governance, and innovation in navigating the evolving world of finance.

14 snips
Jun 19, 2025 • 2h 11min
E126: Swissborg Founder: How to Get Rich in Crypto (without getting lucky)
Cyrus Fazel, the founder and CEO of SwissBorg, aims to empower 1 million people through crypto investments. He shares his journey from losing everything in 2008 to rejecting a billion-dollar buyout. Cyrus argues that real estate often keeps people poor and emphasizes the unique opportunities crypto offers for financial freedom. He discusses the importance of self-custody for security, critiques traditional investment strategies, and highlights the transformational power of community in navigating the unpredictable crypto landscape.