

When Shift Happens Podcast
Kevin Follonier
I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3.
Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos.
Thank you for watching.
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46 snips
Sep 11, 2025 • 1h 54min
E138: President of Solana: How Bitcoin and Solana Are the Future of Banking
Lily Liu, the President of the Solana Foundation, dives into the future of finance by positioning Bitcoin as digital gold and Solana as a vital infrastructure supporting the unbanked. She discusses the challenges posed by the growing national debt and the importance of innovative financial structures. Liu also reflects on the social constructs surrounding money and the significance of breaking away from traditional banking systems. Her insights into leadership within the crypto space highlight Solana's vision for an inclusive economic future.

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Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 13min
E137: Ava Labs CEO: Crypto's Next Boom Will Happen Within 5 Years!
Emin Gun Sirer, CEO and Co-founder of Ava Labs, shares insights from his journey as a computer science innovator. He discusses the evolution of internet currencies, highlighting Avalanche's unique approach to overcoming blockchain challenges. Sirer examines the shift from scams to scalable solutions in crypto, emphasizing the potential for transformative financial applications. He emphasizes the necessity of user-friendly technologies and explores how decentralized finance will reshape asset ownership in the next five years.

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Aug 28, 2025 • 1h 58min
E136: Selini Capital Founder: How to Actually Build Wealth in a New Economy (Crypto > Stocks)
Jordi Alexander, founder of Selini Capital and seasoned crypto investor, shares his insights on wealth building in a changing economy. He emphasizes that traditional investing strategies are outdated and advocates for a shift towards cryptocurrencies. The conversation touches on balancing financial risk with proactive wealth-building, the importance of self-custody in crypto, and how personal growth is intertwined with investment strategies. Jordi also reveals the transformative impact of relocating to Singapore and how overcoming frustrations can lead to significant life changes.

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Aug 21, 2025 • 2h 17min
E135: Chainlink CoFounder: Why Crypto Needs Wall Street to Go Mainstream
Sergey Nazarov, the co-founder and CEO of Chainlink, discusses the pivotal role of traditional finance in driving cryptocurrency's mainstream adoption. He explains why institutions aren't crypto's adversaries but essential partners. The conversation covers the limitations of traditional banking versus the security and transparency blockchain offers, and how Chainlink’s infrastructure enhances smart contracts. Sergey also delves into the importance of self-custody and navigating the evolving landscape of decentralized finance amidst market volatility.

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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 18min
E134: Bitwise CIO: It's Boring, But It Will Make You Rich in Crypto
Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise Asset Management, shares why his "boring" crypto strategy beat 96% of fund managers with 12x returns over seven years. He dives into his 80/20 portfolio rule and predicts Bitcoin could hit $200K by 2025. The discussion emphasizes the rise of institutional investment and the need for clear, disciplined approaches to cryptocurrency. Matt also breaks down complex crypto concepts for easy understanding and advocates for a balanced investment strategy amidst market volatility.

Aug 7, 2025 • 1h 17min
E133: SUI Network CoFounder: The Real Problem With Crypto Security
In this conversation, Sam Blackshear, Co-founder and CTO of Mysten Labs, shares insights into the Sui Network and the innovative Move programming language he created. He reveals flaws in current blockchain architectures and discusses how Move enhances smart contract safety. Sam emphasizes the importance of curiosity and creative problem-solving in tech. He also addresses crypto security challenges like self-custody measures and how programming memory safety can prevent breaches. His journey from academia to significant projects provides an inspiring perspective on innovation in cryptocurrency.

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Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 24min
E132: Wintermute CEO Solves Crypto’s Biggest Conspiracies
Evgeny Gaevoy, Founder and CEO of Wintermute, is a powerhouse in the crypto world, known for driving token launches and ensuring market liquidity. In this engaging discussion, he tackles the absurdity of market manipulation claims, shares his journey from 1990s Russia to building a billion-dollar empire, and reveals his dream of colonizing Mars. Evgeny also unpacks the ethics of market making, the challenges of secure crypto storage, and the importance of long-term strategies, all while blending humor and insight into the complex landscape of cryptocurrency.

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Jul 24, 2025 • 1h 44min
E131: Anchorage Co-Founder: Built America's First Crypto Bank
Diogo Mónica, co-founder of Anchorage Digital, discusses his journey in establishing America's first federally chartered crypto bank, managing over $60 billion in digital assets. He shares his experience of recovering a lost $1.5 million Bitcoin wallet, which inspired him to address the urgent need for institutional crypto custody. The conversation touches on the importance of self-custody in crypto investing, the influence of personal growth on entrepreneurship, and the balance between family life and professional commitments in the fast-paced crypto sector.

29 snips
Jul 17, 2025 • 1h 12min
E130: Pudgy Penguins CEO : The Biggest Ethereum Shift is Coming & the huge PENGU comeback!
Luca Netz, the visionary founder of Pudgy Penguins, discusses the tumultuous journey of navigating the crypto landscape. He shares insights on surviving significant market crashes while building a thriving NFT ecosystem. The conversation highlights an upcoming Ethereum cultural shift favoring builders and the launch of a new meme coin aimed at enhancing community engagement. Luca emphasizes the anticipated resurgence of NFTs tied to stablecoin adoption, showcasing the evolving strategies within the crypto space.

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Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 22min
E129: 10TFund Founder: Wall Street Investor's Bold Crypto Prediction (Bitcoin $1M)
Dan Tapiero, a 25-year Wall Street veteran and founder of 10TFund, shares insights from his extensive trading career. He dives into why Bitcoin could reach $1 million in the next decade, pushing for institutional crypto adoption. The discussion also covers the importance of self-custody in crypto, personal anecdotes on balancing health and work, and the emotional challenges of investing in volatile markets like Bitcoin and Ethereum. Plus, he contrasts traditional art with the NFT landscape, offering a fresh perspective on both worlds.