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Jun 11, 2025 • 49min

Where is Google Headed with Measurement?

Google Marketing Live 2023: Key Announcements, AI in Search, and the Future of MeasurementSimon and Jim unpack the highlights of Google Marketing Live 2025. Fresh from the conference, Simon "delves" (yes, AI was a big part) into key announcements, including AI in Search, AI Max for Search, VEO advancements, and measurement challenges.They discuss the excitement around AI mode, scenario planning in Google Analytics, and the evolving landscape of Marketing Mix Modeling (MMM).Additionally, they touch on insights from Google's new tools and partnerships, underscoring a shift towards more integrated and accessible marketing strategies.▶️ Watch on YouTube00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter00:15 Google Marketing Live Highlights01:23 Shaq and T-Pain at GML03:19 Measurement Announcements at GML05:13 Incrementality Testing13:01 Google Analytics and Attribution20:44 Meridian Scenario Planning25:21 Making MMM Accessible: A Double-Edged Sword25:57 The Complexity of Tagging and MMM28:14 Validation and the Dangers of Simplification32:11 AI's Role in MMM and Marketing37:48 Google Marketing Live: Key Announcements38:53 The Future of AI in Search and Advertising42:42 VEO and the Evolution of Creative Development47:37 Final Thoughts and Community Engagement
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May 14, 2025 • 51min

Plot your next move: From web dev to CRO to SaaS founder, with Sani Manić

Are you wondering what to do next in your career? Is AI going to leave you living in a van, down by the river? What paths have others taken through this crazy measurement industry we're in?Let's learn from a sample of 1: Sani Manić - who has gone from web dev to CRO to co-founder of a SaaS company. Find out how he transitioned across various web development and CRO roles and how decided what to do next. ▶️ Watch on YouTubeLinks from the show:Sani Manić on LinkedInPodpacerCohesioBook - Can't Hurt Me (David Goggins)The School of Greatness podcast (ep. with Leila Hormozi)Show Notes:00:00 Introduction and Friendly Banter01:33 Career Backgrounds and Education01:57 Career Progression and AI Impact02:58 Guest Introduction and Career Journey06:08 WordPress Beginnings11:57 Transition to Marketing and SEO13:21 Bridging the Gap Between Teams19:36 Challenges in CRO and Statistics23:16 AI and Best Practices in Website Optimization23:59 The Future of Hyper-Personalized Experiences26:38 The Problem with Historical Data in CRO28:11 Universal Experiences vs. Individual Optimization31:53 The Journey to Becoming a Founder34:15 Building Tools to Solve Real Problems38:04 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs39:16 The Importance of Focus and Small Steps48:09 Incremental Insights and Recommendations
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Apr 24, 2025 • 37min

Live from MeasureCamp New York!

Is MMM the right solution for your company?With seasoned professionals Gabriel Franco (Founder of Cassandra) and TS Kelly (Managing Director at Arima), we go deep into the world of Marketing Mix Modeling (MMM).What does the adoption of MMM look like? What's the role of open-source tools like Meta's Robyn and Google's Meridian? When is MMM the NOT the right solution? What do MMM critics get wrong? And what's in store over the next few years for MMM?▶️ Watch on YouTube00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks00:34 Introduction to Marketing Mix Modeling00:55 Current Trends and Sponsors in Marketing Mix Modeling01:36 Choosing the Right Marketing Mix Modeling Approach02:55 Consultant vs. In-House vs. Open Source04:17 Challenges and Success Stories in Marketing Mix Modeling08:31 Adoption and Education in Marketing Mix Modeling23:20 Future of Marketing Mix Modeling30:18 Audience Q&A37:10 Conclusion and Closing Remarks
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Apr 2, 2025 • 58min

The MMM Zeitgeist with Elea Feit & Karen Chisholm

Elea Feit, an Associate Dean of Research and marketing mix expert, joins Karen Chisholm, a director at Pernod Ricard specializing in analytics. They tackle the biggest challenges facing marketers in measurement today. Expect a deep dive into the future of marketing mix modeling and the importance of data quality. They also discuss the nuances of brand-level optimization and the complexities introduced by digital media. Insights on how to simplify data for effective decisions and the evolving landscape of marketing measurement are key highlights.
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Mar 5, 2025 • 46min

Is Google's Meridian a Game Changer for MMM?

There's been a lot of excitement about Google's recent launch of Meridian - their open-source MMM framework. But does it live up to the hype?Jim and Simon explore what sets Meridian apart from other tools like Meta's Robyn and PyMC Marketing. They also discuss the evolution and impact of open-source MMM, the role of new data streams such as Google Query Volume and Reach & Frequency data, and how the availability of Meridian might shift industry standards. Listen in to understand the features, benefits, and the potential gaps Meridian fills within the marketing measurement ecosystem.▶️ Watch us on YouTubeLinks from the show:Google's MeridianMeta's RobynPyMC MarketingRecast - Validating MMMMMM Hub00:00 Introduction and Host Switch-Up00:37 Discussing Google's Meridian Announcement02:00 Understanding Meridian's Name and Popularity03:48 Google's Open Source MMM Framework05:53 Comparing Lightweight MMM and Robyn12:02 The Role of AI and Data in MMM21:52 Debunking Meridian's Myths22:13 Understanding Meridian's Role in Experimentation22:54 The Importance of Competition in Open Source MMM23:28 Unique Features of Meridian Compared to PyMC and Robin23:49 Choosing the Right MMM Tool: Robyn, Meridian, or PyMC?24:22 Explaining Time Varying Coefficients24:30 Entry-Level Recommendations for MMM Tools25:00 Static vs. Time Varying Baselines in MMM28:44 Evaluating the Accessibility of MMM Tools35:20 The Need for Robust Validation in MMM37:38 Challenges in Incrementality Testing39:07 Bridging the Gap Between MMM and Media Managers43:17 Future of MMM: In-Platform Incrementality Testing43:46 Final Thoughts and Joining the MMM Hub
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Feb 12, 2025 • 1h 1min

From MMM to AI: Jim & Simon's Big Bets for 2025

Big Bets for 2025: AI, Marketing Mix Modeling, and the Future of Retail MediaJoin Simon and Jim as they place their bets for 2025. Find out why Jim thinks MMM adoption is going to skyrocket, and why Simon is all in on retail media measurement.More importantly, find out why Simon's house was once listed on Google Maps as a Forever 21 location.▶️Watch on YouTube00:00 Introduction and Year-End Reflections00:24 Cauzle's First Year and Growth01:02 Podcast Popularity and Listener Engagement01:35 Career Transitions and New Roles03:49 The Future of Measurement and Media04:05 Big Bets for 202504:55 Big Bet #1: Retail Media Measurement14:33 Big Bet #2: Marketing Mix Modeling Predictions26:05 Big Bet #3: AI Answer Engines and Search Behavior30:55 Big Bet #4: AI's Role in Marketing33:18 Big Bet #5: Synthetic Audiences in Market Research43:39 Big Bet #6: External Performance Calibration59:48 Concluding Thoughts and Incremental Insights
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Dec 18, 2024 • 54min

Behavioral Analytics & Rock Operas with Josh Silverbauer

Josh Silverbauer, Head of Analytics and CRO at From the Future, combines his expertise in behavioral analytics with creativity, including his unique analytics rock opera. He dives into tools like Microsoft Clarity, emphasizing their significance over traditional web analytics. The discussion unveils the complexities of AI-driven hyper-personalization, tackling privacy issues and ethical concerns. Josh also shares insights on his rock opera 'User Journey', showcasing the harmonious blend of data analysis and artistic expression.
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Sep 18, 2024 • 53min

Measuring Podcast Ads: Insights & Techniques with Amelia Coomber

Amelia Coomber, Head of Marketing & Growth at Podscribe, is a podcast advertising measurement expert. She shares fascinating insights on why pre-roll ads deliver superior ROI compared to mid-roll. The conversation dives deep into the technicalities of measuring ad effectiveness, including pixel-based attribution and the challenges of tracking listener behavior. Amelia discusses the future of podcasting, especially the potential impact of platforms like YouTube and AI-driven measurement strategies, shedding light on innovative advertising techniques.
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Aug 28, 2024 • 53min

Prompt Engineering for Marketers & Analysts with Mike Taylor

Mike Taylor, co-author of "Prompt Engineering for Generative AI," is back with fascinating insights on enhancing AI interactions. He discusses the principles and practical applications of prompt engineering, emphasizing its role in marketing and analytics. Learn how to craft effective prompts for social media and automate prompt creation. Mike highlights the significance of AI in data extraction and the evolving skill set of professionals in this space. Get ready for a deep dive into AI's potential to transform decision-making in business!
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Aug 7, 2024 • 53min

How to Measure & Maximize PMax with Expert Navah Hopkins

In this discussion, Navah Hopkins, a PPC expert with over 16 years in the industry, shares her insights on maximizing Google’s Performance Max (PMax) campaigns. She explores the nuances of managing these campaigns, including how to exclude branded searches and tackle measurement hurdles. The conversation highlights the complexities of incrementality testing and the importance of collaboration between data teams and PPC specialists. With a sprinkle of humor, Navah emphasizes learning from failures and shares tips for enhancing productivity through effective scheduling and the energizing power of metal music.

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