

Banking on Digital Growth
James Robert Lay
If you’re part of a financial brand marketing, sales, or leadership team, you know the entire industry is in the midst of exponential change fueled by new technologies. Consumers now make purchase decisions long before they walk into a physical branch location, if they walk into a branch at all, while mobile banks, digital lenders, and fintechs have transformed traditional growth models rooted in legacy broadcast marketing and branch sales strategies.Get ready to gain practical insights, proven ideas, and empowering inspiration as financial brand marketing and sales leaders, along with the leading digital marketing and sales technology firms, share their stories to help you maximize your digital growth potential here on Banking on Digital Growth.
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Oct 3, 2022 • 43min
233) #ExponentialInsights - How to Think Like a Brand, Not a Bank - Part 1
Banks have a branding problem. Too often, their offerings aren’t in line with customer expectations.
It’s time for financial institutions to step out of their comfort zones and embrace the tension that comes with positive change.
Allison Netzer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-netzer-1b98335/), Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer at NYMBUS (https://www.nymbus.com/) and coauthor of Think Like a Brand, Not a Bank, joined us to talk about the branding mindset in banking.
Join us as we discuss:
- Data trends in financial services branding (6:25)
- Why a disciplined branding mindset matters (12:32)
- How financial brands can navigate tension with confidence (23:32)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
- Kantar BrandZ study - https://www.kantar.com/campaigns/brandz
- Think Like a Brand, Not a Bank - https://thinklikeabrandbook.com/
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Sep 27, 2022 • 36min
232) #ExponentialInsights: Customer Loyalty in Finance - Keeping Score with Apex
Many financial institutions have lost the emotional connection with their clients, so some of the brightest minds in the industry have started keeping score.
Marc Whitehead (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-whitehead-9a37246/) and Nick Bond (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-bond-9236953/), co-founders of Emotive Technologies and The Apex Scoring System (https://www.apexscore.ai/), spoke with us about what they found in their 2022 U.S. Banking Industry Loyalty Report.
Join us as we discuss:
What drove Marc and Nick’s team to commission the report (4:34)
Emerging patterns throughout customer loyalty in financial services (15:53)
How to bridge the emotional gap in customer expectations (23:06)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
- 2022 U.S. Banking Industry Loyalty Report (https://get.apexscore.ai/bankloyalty/)
- Apexscore.ai
- Marc@apexscore.ai
- Nick@apexscore.ai
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or at DigitalGrowth.com.
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Sep 26, 2022 • 38min
231) #ExponentialInsights - Fighting Off Financial Stress with the One-Number Budget
Traditional budget failure is a familiar symptom of the financial stress that burdens 85 percent of Americans.
But why do so many people struggle with this everyday household income practice?
John Crane (https://www.linkedin.com/in/johncrane/), Founder of Crane Financial LLC (https://www.cranefinancial.com/) and author of The One-Number Budget (https://www.onenumberbudget.com/), joins us to break down the psychology and common pitfalls behind the traditional budget.
Join us as we discuss:
- The Moneyball connection in financial planning (4:04)
- Being the “thief” of your own traditional budget (16:34)
- How financial coaching can tie into strengthening budgets (24:40)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
- The One-Number Budget (https://www.onenumberbudget.com/)
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here.
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Sep 20, 2022 • 53min
230) #BehindtheCover - The Four Agreements: Transforming Behavior in a Financial Environment
Even in this exciting new digital age of AI, ancient truths can speak to human behavior and mindset.
Audrey Cannata, Operations Lead at the Digital Growth Institute, joins me for another episode of our Behind the Cover series as we talk about Don Miguel Ruiz’s The Four Agreements.
Settle in as we take a moment to disconnect from technology and reconnect with the natural patterns that dictate our actions in both finance and life.
Join us as we discuss:
Appreciating wisdom from the past in a digital world (10:56)
Practical application for each of the Four Agreements (16:25)
Takeaways for coaching opportunities for financial brands and fintechs (41:29)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
The Four Agreements
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here.
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Sep 19, 2022 • 42min
229) #ExponentialInsights - Viewing Open Banking Through a Lens of Abundance
As ease of access to big data becomes widespread, open finance is taking over the industry.
But what exactly is open finance? And what does its implementation mean for banks, credit unions, fintech, and consumers?
Jane Barratt (https://www.linkedin.com/in/janebarratt/), Chief Advocacy Officer at MX, and Anne Legg (https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-legg/), Founder of THRIVE Strategic Services, both join us to give their valuable insight on open banking and finance.
Join us as we discuss:
- Opportunities for financial brands to embrace open finance (6:05)
- The four dimensions of open finance (16:47)
- Thinking about the “who” before the “why” with open finance (34:33)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
-Jane Barratt Twitter (https://twitter.com/Jane_Barratt-Anne)
Legg Twitter (https://twitter.com/AnneTHRIVE)
-anneleggthrive.com
-Jane's St. Jude Fundraiser Link (https://fundraising.stjude.org/site/TR?fr_id=135779&pg=personal&px=7433036)
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or at DigitalGrowth.com.
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Sep 13, 2022 • 40min
228) #ExponentialInsights: The Good Entrepreneur’s Take on Leadership and Coaching
With so much exponential change in finance today, having a strong coaching culture is critical to sustainable success. But unfortunately, coaching is also usually one of the first casualties of fiscal cuts.
Nick Kennedy, Founder of Nick Kennedy Coaching and author of The Good Entrepreneur, spoke with us about coaching in leadership and why even the best talent needs it.
Join us as we discuss:
- Dealing with risk-averse environments and clients (5:19)
- Handling exponential change as a leader (19:18)
- Why coaching is a common budget casualty (29:27)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
- The Good Entrepreneur
- Nick Kennedy Coaching
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here.
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Sep 12, 2022 • 38min
227) #ExponentialInsights - Giving Young Account Holders a Reason to Be Loyal
As financial services decentralize, loyalty from young account holders continues to wane.
So, what can banks and credit unions do to fix the disconnect in the generation gap and attract Gen Z and Gen Alpha members?
Mart Vos, Founder and CEO of Eko Investments, tells us why he thinks young account holders are breaking away from traditional financial services and how FIs can bring them back.
Join us as we discuss:
- The perception gap in financial services and younger generations (5:15)
- Pattern matching the younger generation’s investing behavior (14:48)
- Using a predictive model for future opportunities (21:15)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
- Mart Vos
- Mart@eko.investments
- Eko Investments
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here.
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Sep 7, 2022 • 32min
226) #DigitalGrowthJourneys: Honoring the Unknown: Insights from an FCU President
What does digital transformation look like for you personally?
Everyone’s journey is unique, but we can’t do it alone. Through shared vision and perspective, we can master exponential growth together.
Devin Lyon (https://www.linkedin.com/in/devon-lyon/), President and CEO at Central One Federal Credit Union (https://www.centralfcu.com/), tells us how his path of transformation has led him to an exciting new role.
Join us as we discuss:
- Coaching on a macro level in the financial industry (10:19)
- Respecting the unknown when managing your team (15:52)
- How emotions play into traditional financial services (23:28)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
devonlyon@outlook.com
Devin Lyon
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Sep 5, 2022 • 42min
225) #ExponentialInsights: Unlocking the Brain: Behavioral Science in Marketing
The concept of applying behavioral science in marketing may sound sinister to the uninitiated. But, like any other marketing strategy, it can be used as a force for good.
It’s human nature to make emotional decisions. With behavioral science, we can guide consumers into making choices that are right for them.
Nancy Harhut (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancyharhut/), Co-founder and Chief Creative Officer at HBT Marketing (https://www.hbtmktg.com/) and author of Using Behavioral Science in Marketing, tells us how behavioral science can revolutionize marketing for the better.
Join us as we discuss:
The basics behind behavioral science and its uses in marketing (3:26)
How the loss aversion theory and endowment affect consumers (11:00)
The power of the “urgency and scarcity” implications (24:35)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
- Twitter @nharhut
- HBT Marketing
- Using Behavioral Sciences in Marketing (https://tinyurl.com/4hvpebb8)
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Aug 30, 2022 • 43min
224) #ExponentialInsights : Slamming the Brakes on Credit Union Entropy
Over the last decade, we’ve seen a disturbing case of credit union entropy.
Nearly 8,000 credit unions operated in the U.S. in 2010. Today, that number has been cut almost by half.
Are credit unions becoming an endangered species in the financial space?
Ancin Cooley, Principal at Synergy Credit Union Consulting, Inc., told us why he thinks credit unions have been on the decline and what they can do to halt their inevitable extinction.
Join us as we discuss:
Why credit unions are missing an opportunity to boost brand equity (8:50)
Fueling the visionary-integrator relationship (25:38)
How leaders can leverage communication at scale (30:09)
Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:
- Ancin Cooley
- Credit Unions.Training
- Synergy Credit Union Consulting, Inc.
- Synergy Bank Consulting, Inc.
You can find this interview and many more by subscribing to Banking on Digital Growth on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or here.
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