Nathan and Erik sit down with Neal Khosla, founder of Curai Health, a venture-backed virtual care startup using AI to provide low-cost primary healthcare. Prior to his current role at Curai, Neal was a machine learning researcher at Google and Stanford. In this episode, they discuss the current state of AI in medicine, what the future patient experience may look like, and how developments in AI healthcare may interact with different regulatory and social forces across the globe. We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsFEEDBACK We'd love to hear your feedback or answer any listener questions live on an upcoming episode. DM @labenz on Twitter or email us at Info@turpentine.co with "TCR" in the subject line.We'd appreciate it immensely if you left us a review on Apple Podcasts or a rating on Spotify!TIMESTAMPS(00:00) Preview(04:32) The future of AI in medicine(12:50) Patient experience in AI-driven medicine and the current state of AI in medicine(15:04) Sponsor: Omneky(20:34) Building the LLM architecture for medicine(25:25) Current state of the art for AI in medicine(28:54) Evaluating LLM performance in medicine(31:49) Benchmarking LLMs in medicine(39:17) Using the Socratic method in training LLMs(43:57) Multimodal systems and deploying multiple models in medicine (51:30) The future of LLM creation and usage(59:47) The interaction of AI medicine with social and regulatory forces(01:11:00) AI adoption in countries with centralized healthcare systems(01:13:37) How should we regulate the usage of AI in medicine?(01:16:57) AI-first systems in medicine(01:18:19) Is there an obligation to deploy AI in medicine in its current state?(01:20:48) Neal’s favorite AI products(01:22:21) Would Neal get a Neuralink implant?(01:24:54) AI hopes and fearsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@nealkhosla (Neal)@labenz (Nathan)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Nathan sits down with Professor Zak Kohane, the Chair of the Department of Biomedical Informatics at Harvard Medical School, and co-author of the new book, The AI Revolution in Medicine, for which Sam Altman, OpenAI’s CEO wrote the foreword to the book.Professor Kohane was among a select few people to receive early preview and research access to GPT-4 in the fall of 2022, and his approach to exploring and characterizing how AI is about to transform medicine. The book is out May 13, 2023 and can be ordered here (or on Amazon by searching for "The AI Revolution in Medicine")Regardless of the field you're in, Dr. Kohane's combination of deep immersion, enthusiastic exploration, pragmatic optimism, risk awareness, realism, and forward-thinking vision make this a worthy example for others to study and emulate.--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(05:29) Dr. Isaac Kohane’s story(15:00) Sponsor: Omneky(16:29) Advice to others thinking of applying AI to their own disciplines(20:33) The tension of using AI in medicine(25:04) The Trial Paradigm of AI (31:15) Is it possible to use GPT as a healthcare provider in population studies?(34:14) The Trainee Paradigm of AI(36:09) The Partner Paradigm of AI and how doctors should use AI(40:33) AI provided interaction and how that can improve patient care(42:26) The Torchbearer Paradigm of AI(42:59) Can GPT independently conduct medical research?(46:58) The future for impactful use cases of AI in medicine(51:04) Integrating AlphaFold into language models(54:10) AI-alignment and patient data in medicineTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@zakkohane (Isaac)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Nathan Labenz sits down with prominent – and notably prescient – AI media figures Robert Scoble and Ben Tossell. They discuss what the work of being an AI scout looks like, how to bring the mainstream along with emerging AI developments, and their predictions and hopes for AI.Robert Scoble is a long-time Silicon Valley technology explorer and connector, a futurist who's met so many technology legends in their primes that he's now also something of a historian. https://scobleizer.blog/Ben Tossell is the creator of Ben's Bites, an AI round up newsletter meant to be read in 5 minutes or less, read by over 90,000 subscribers. https://www.bensbites.co/This episode caps off our series centered on talking to rising voices in AI media: people who are now only working overtime to understand everything going on in AI, but also creating thought leadership and educational content meant to help others get up to speed as well.--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsBOOK RECOMMENDATION:The Scout Mindset from author Julia GalefTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@Scobleizer (Robert)@bentossell (BenSPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.More original content from Nathan is published in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Nathan Labenz sits down with Rachel Woods, founder of The AI Exchange, an AI education platform with over 130,000 subscribers on TikTok. They discuss Rachel’s experience consulting for public and private companies on AI strategy, how teams should think about their AI strategy, and how Rachel uses AI in her own business. Rachel was previously a data scientist at Meta, and a founder of a venture-backed e-commerce startup, where she began to use chatGPT in her startup operations.This episode is the second in a series centered on talking to rising voices in AI media: people who are now only working overtime to understand everything going on in AI, but also creating thought leadership and educational content meant to help others get up to speed as well.--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(02:59) Rachel Woods’ story(04:30) State of the public who comes across videos(9:49): How do you frame AI to business owners and how should they use it?(15:29) Sponsor: Omneky(18:58) How should teams set up their AI strategy for success?(26:41) The leap from GPT 3.5 to GPT-4(30:42) Step changes of AI and public perception of capabilities(35:17) Common misconceptions people have about AI(36:22) How Rachel uses AI in her business(44:09) What’s your style of prompt engineering for content creation?(46:01) How AI will change the way we use a computer in the next year?(49:34) Bing launch and how companies launch AI products(54:15) AI safety and restraint(1:00:11) Alpaca and LLaMA(1:04:16) Rachel’s favorite products in AI(1:05:24) Would Rachel get a Neuralink implant?(1:07:55) AI hopes and fearsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@rachel_l_woods (Rachel)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg sit down with Sarah Guo and Elad Gil, notable investors and co-hosts of the AI-focused No Priors podcast. They discuss how Sarah and Elad are approaching AI investment opportunities right now, how that differs from how they've thought about investing in the past, where in the stack from hardware to applications they expect to see value accrue, what modes of human-AI interaction they are most interested in, and more.Sarah is the founder of $100M AI-focused venture fund Conviction VC, which she launched last fall. She was previously General Partner at Greylock. Elad is a serial entrepreneur and a startup investor. He has invested in over 40 companies now worth $1B or more each, and is also author of the High Growth Handbook.This episode is the first in a series centered on talking to rising voices in AI media, people who are now only working overtime to understand everything going on in AI, but also creating thought leadership and educational content meant to help others get up to speed as well.LINKS:No Priors Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0O65xhqvGVhpgdIrrdlEYkNo Priors on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-priors-artificial-intelligence-machine-learning/id1668002688Elad Gil's blog: https://blog.eladgil.com/Sarah Guo's blog: https://sarahguo.com/blog--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(04:43) What is software 3.0(09:14) Disruption coming from startups or incumbents?(13:42) Sarah and Elad identify overlooked investment opportunities in AI(15:19) Sponsor: Omneky(15:46) Future of social media(22:45) AI agents & personal co-pilots(25:32) Where to invest in AI?(31:11) How our kids will interact with AI(34:50) How to gain conviction as an investor in AI(45:07) When should founders raise money and when should they bootstrap?(46:28) How should startups spend their capital now that we have AI capabilities?(48:10) Sarah & Elad’s favorite products in AI(51:39) Would Sarah & Elad get a neuralink implant?(53:41) AI hopes and fearsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@sarahnormous (Sarah)@eladgil (Elad)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Raza Habib is on the front lines of LLM implementation as CEO of Humanloop, a Y Combinator backed startup that helps companies of all kinds, small and large bridge the gap from API access to successful LLM deployment. Nathan sat down with Raza to hear what he has learned in the process of helping so many companies on their LLM implementation journeys – and he did not disappoint – as you'll hear, he shared a bunch of concrete examples of customer use cases, practical challenges that people face, and the strategies they use to overcome them.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview of episode(07:00) Humanloop’s mission and surprising customer base(12:10) Why a language model is so advantageous(15:00) Customization and understanding model performance(18:14) Sponsor: Omneky(18:35) Users graduating from playground experimentation to develop robust implementations (23:25) Raza’s two mental models for using AI(27:50) How customers are actually integrating API(31:50) Challenge of evaluation and feedback(43:33) Prediction: more fine tuning in the immediate future(47:00) RLHF myth-busting(57:12) Robust agents need feedback loops(1:02:27) AI productization challenges(01:07:32) Adopt or die moment for incumbents(01:11:19) Fast iteration cycles(1:15:45) Rapid fire questions for The Cognitive Revolution guestsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@RazRazcle (Raza)@labenz (Nathan)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Nathan Labenz sits down with Matt Welsh, the CEO and co-founder of Fixie.AI which just raised $17M in seed funding. The technology world's attention has turned en masse to AI agents over the last month, but Matt, a former Harvard professor and ex-Google, has been focused on AI agents for longer over at Fixie. The platform is currently in developer preview mode, where developers can build agents and end users can try them.Agents hold the promise of handling not only the core cognitive work, but many of the messy implementation details as well – the searching & finding, sorting through & scanning, signing in & navigating, reading documentation & using APIs – all the manual ad hoc routing of information for which we act today as human plumbing.--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview of the episode(02:08) Why AI Agents are so topical right now, and Matt's prescience with Fixie(06:40) How Matt started Fixie(10:55) How AI Agents "figure out the plumbing"(15:57) How Matt envisions work changing in the near term + concrete examples(22:40) Building your own agent(26:00) New threat model and guardrails of this new paradigm(34:48) Synthetic memories in autonomous agents(42:39) Examples of incredible use cases(48:00) Single sign on idea(51:00) Form factor for AI-assisted living(54:32) Matt's hopes and fears for AITWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@mdwelsh (Matt)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off. https://www.omneky.com/More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.comAlso, check out the debut of co-host Erik's new long-form interview podcast Upstream, whose guests include David Sacks. Ezra Klein, Balaji Srinivasan, and Marc Andreessen.Subscribe:Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/3z8TldLSpotify: bit.ly/40letd0Music Credit: OpenAI's Jukebox

Nathan dives in with Alex Albert, a 22-year-old computer science student at the University of Washington, who has become a prolific creator of Jailbreakchat.com and author over at The Prompt Report.com. This is Alex's first podcast appearance! Please enjoy this thought-provoking conversation with Alex Albert as part of 'Prompt Engineering Week' at The Cognitive Revolution.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsThank you to everyone for listening, and shout out to those who commented to let us know how you discovered the show – it was interesting to see the responses across platforms. We'd appreciate you leaving us a review in the Apple Podcasts Store: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1669813431TIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Preview of Alex on this episode(6:00) How Alex lent structure to his jailbreaking activities early on(8:00) AI is fun and interesting and it's being overshadowed by hype and confusion(12:15) Does Alex see cases of jailbreaking for utility?(16:13) Sponsor: Omneky(25:59) GPT-4 is best for jailbreaking(33:20) Role-play jailbreaks can work(43:59) How to think about exploring black box technology(45:19) Training models to override bad behavior(54:55) Content filters are a band-aid(1:07:14) AI safety(1:13:02) AI models require scrutiny.(1:19:39) Optimism - humans will figure it outTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@alexalbert__ (Alex)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off. https://www.omneky.com/More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.comAlso, check out the debut of co-host Erik's new long-form interview podcast Upstream, whose guests include David Sacks. Ezra Klein, Balaji Srinivasan, and Marc Andreessen.Subscribe:Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/3z8TldLSpotify: bit.ly/40letd0Music Credit: OpenAI's Jukebox

For anyone who discovered this show on Twitter, Riley (@goodside) likely needs no introduction – after all, he spent most of 2022 posting his explorations of OpenAI's text-davinci-002, and quickly became one of the must-follow accounts in AI. Riley Goodside is the world's first Staff Prompt Engineer at Scale AI, and is an expert in prompting large language models and integrating them into AI-powered applications. Few have spent as much time on the language model frontier, so I hope you enjoy this unique conversation with Riley Goodside.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Preview of the episode(05:13) Riley's unique background(11:24) Riley's original narrow moat(15:07) Sponsors: Omneky(17:02) LLMs can take on ncreasingly complex instructions(27:41) Language models can do math(30:05) Models can learn from context(37:29) Fine-tune models for tasks(38:47) Automate instruction following(44:34) Large language models are alien text prediction(52:27) Avoid mode collapse by framing(59:05) Composing AI capabilities like Lego bricks(1:00:37) Language models solve tasks(1:05:37) GPT-3 solves real-world tasks(1:15:03) GPT-4's amazing capabilities(1:17:03) Multimodal abilities unlock possibilities(1:25:03) Compare models for best task fit(1:26:24) Compare models using trial and error(1:36:15) AI and the future of work(1:42:29) GPT-4 can provide second opinions(1:45:06) AI safety discussion(1:50:20) AI permeates society cautiously(1:55:26) The AI revolution underwayTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@Goodside (Riley)@scale_AI (Scale)@labenz (Nathan)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Nathan Labenz dives in with Jaan Tallinn, a technologist, entrepreneur (Kazaa, Skype), and investor (DeepMind and more) whose unique life journey has intersected with some of the most important social and technological events of our collective lifetime. Jaan has since invested in nearly 180 startups, including dozens of AI application layer companies and some half dozen startup labs that focus on fundamental AI research, all in an effort to support the teams that he believes most likely to lead us to AI safety, and to have a seat at the table at organizations that he worries might take on too much risk. He's also founded several philanthropic nonprofits, including the Future of Life Institute, which recently published the open letter calling for a six-month pause on training new AI systems. In this discussion, we focused on:- the current state of AI development and safety-Jan's expectations for possible economic transformation- what catastrophic failure modes worry him most in the near term- How big of a bullet we dodged with the training of GPT-4- Which organizations really matter for immediate-term pause purposes- How AI race dynamics are likely to evolve over the next couple of yearsLINKS REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE:Future of Life's open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/Eliezer Yudkowsky's TIME article: https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/Podcast: Daniela and Dario Amodei on Anthropic- https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/daniela-and-dario-amodei-on-anthropic/id1170991978?i=1000552976406Zvi on the pause: https://thezvi.substack.com/p/on-the-fli-ai-risk-open-letter--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.TIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Episode Preview(1:30) Jaan's impressive entrepreneurial career and his role in the recent AI Open Letter(3:26) AI safety and Future of Life Institute(6:55) Jaan's first meeting with Eliezer Yudkowsky and the founding of the Future of Life Institute(13:00) Future of AI evolution(15:55) Sponsor: Omneky(17:20) Jaan's investments in AI companies(24:22) The emerging danger paradigm(33:48) AI supervising itself(40:06) Evolution, useful heuristics, and lack of insight into selection process(43:13) Current estimate for life-ending catastrophe(54:20) Our luck given the softness of language models(56:24) Future of Language Models(1:01:00) The Moore’s law of mad science(1:03:02) GPT-5 type project(1:11:00) AI alignment with the latest models(1:14:31) AI research investment and safety(1:21:00) What a six month pause buys us(1:27:01) AI’s Turing Test Passing(1:33:18) Responsible AI development.(1:41:20) Neuralink implant technology