In this episode, Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg host a discussion between Emad Mostaque, founder of Stability AI, and Sam Lessin, GP of Slow Ventures and former VP Product at Facebook. These influential technology thinkers tackle topics pertinent to evaluating whether AI is a good investment for venture capital. They talk about the attention and information economy, SaaS markets, how AI-created entertainment will impact society and our relationships, and AI disruption of highly-regulated industries.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.LINK FOR NATHAN'S LIVE EVENT IN SAN FRANCISCO:Friday June 16th: Why AI with Athena: https://v4p9mjmurpv.typeform.com/to/llRcJSF9TIMESTAMP:(00:00) Episode Preview(01:17) Nathan explains why we hosted a conversation with Emad and Sam(08:25) Discussion kicks off: AI as an extender rather than a deck shuffler(12:01) Is AI a disruptive or sustaining innovation?(14:22) What is intelligence?(16:00) The attention and information economy(21:56) Storytelling, the stock market, and the economy(23:23) Sponsor: Omneky(23:50) AI in the media industry, Hollywood, and distribution(29:10) Startups vs incumbents(30:30) Disrupting highly-regulated industries(32:30) AI in education: an AI tutor for every child(35:15) AI as StackOverflow 2.0 for engineers(37:23) Regulatory Arbitrage(40:06) The oracle problem in AI(42:00) Apple as the weakest BigTech player in AI(44:30) AI in communities and the future of social media(46:55) Replika on Valentine’s Day and AI-generated porn(53:50) How does the market for inference shape up? Inference vs. cloud(55:08) Price of primary care in US in the next decade(55:38) What are the most likely incumbents to be disrupted?(56:55) Will BigTech continue to opensource?(58:56) Marriage rate in US in the future given AI(01:00:24) Can any AI leader sustain high gross margins in the future?(01:02:04) Stability’s business modelTWITTER:@EMostaque (Emad)@Lessin (Sam)@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.Download this episode as an mp3: https://chrt.fm/track/993DGA/traffic.megaphone.fm/RINTP2126380296.mp3?updated=1686676812Music Credit: MusicLM

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Joshua Browder of DoNotPay, the world’s first robot lawyer. They chat about the current state of AI use in law, what policymakers should consider in regulating AI, and the ethics of robo-lawyers for consumer use. We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(03:22) Joshua Browder and the story of DoNotPay(04:50) The value incurred through an AI lawyer(07:17) What are the legal and financial injustices that motivates Joshua’s work?(12:46) How does the AI negotiate with a Comcast chat agent?(16:28) Consumer security(17:12) Sponsor: Omneky(21:08) The ethics of DoNotPay(22:27) Should AI need to disclose that it’s AI?(24:47) How much human intervention is necessary in AI tooling?(27:15) Where does the burden of proof lie for AI regulation and ethics?(31:47) Advice to policymakers(35:45) AI Liability(38:05) AI Arms Race(43:46) Productive bot interactions(45:00) AI-powered arbitration(49:28) How the consumer experience might change two years from now(51:45) AI Superapps(55:25) Moats in AI(57:11) How much money does DoNotPay save people today?(59:30) Consumer and enterprise timelines given AI(01:06:30) What will AI replace?(01:09:34) Impact of AI in different industries(01:11:10) The legal field’s view of AI(01:15:50) Deflationary factors in running DoNotPay(01:25:00) What are non-obvious ways to save money?(01:27:55) Joshua’s favorite AI tools(01:28:17) Would Joshua get a Neuralink implant?LINKS:https://donotpay.com/TWITTER:@jbrowder1 (Joshua)@DoNotPay (DoNotPay)@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.NEWSLETTER:More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Nathan Labenz sits down with Ronen Eldan and Yuanzhi Li of Microsoft Research to discuss the small natural language dataset they created called TinyStories. Tiny Stories is designed to reflect the full richness of natural language while still being small to support research with modest compute budgets.  Using this dataset, they began to explore aspects of language model performance, behavior, and mechanism by training a series of models that range in size from just 1 million to a maximum of 33 million parameters – which is still just 2% the scale of GPT-2. In this conversation, Nathan, Ronen, and Yuanzhi touch on LM reasoning, emergence, interpretability, and what understanding can be extended to LLMs.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsLINKS:Tiny Stories paper: https://huggingface.co/papers/2305.07759TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(07:12) The inspiration for the Tiny Stories project(15:07) Sponsor: Omneky(15:44) Creating the Tiny Stories dataset(21:27) GPT-4 vs GPT-3.5(24:13) Did the TinyStories team try any other versions of GPT-4(29:23) Curriculum models and weirder curriculums(35:34) What does reasoning mean?(46:27) What does emergence mean?(01:01:44) The curriculum development space(01:11:40) The similarities between models and human development(01:20:12) Fewer layers vs. more layers(01:29:22) Attention heads(01:33:40) Semantic attention head(01:36:54) Neuron technique used in developing the TinyStories model(01:52:20) Interpretability work that inspires Ronen and YuanzhiTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@EldanRonen (Ronen)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.Music Credit: MusicLMMore show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

This 20-min episode comes from our friend Nathaniel Whittemore's excellent daily podcast The AI Breakdown Podcast. This episode aired on June 1, 2023, and covers the latest developments from OpenAI, including new features, a cybersecurity grant program, and their new process rewards model for trading. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsSPONSOR:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.Subscribe to The AI Breakdown podcast: https://pod.link/1680633614Subscribe to The AI Breakdown on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAIBreakdown

Nathan and Erik analyze the moats of the most powerful companies in AI. The paradigm-shifting technology has led to a flourishing open-source community with market share. Yet, the big players have key competitive advantages that can be examined from many different angles.LINKS:Nathan’s Twitter thread on AI moats that sparked this discussion: https://twitter.com/labenz/status/1654853321876815872Read about the 9 moats at length in our newsletter: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/p/the-leaked-google-memo-and-aLeaderboard for AI rankings: https://lmsys.org/--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(01:36) Where are the moats in AI?(07:31) Open source vs. closed(15:24) Recommendation: The AI Breakdown Podcast(16:39) Sponsor: Omneky(20:46) AI Safety(33:00) Which players are going to win? 9 Moats.TWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.Music Credit: MusicLMMore show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Today’s episode is a deep dive into the collision of AI and the future of entertainment, against the backdrop of the still-raging Writers Guild of America (WGA) strike. Nathan Labenz sits down with Trey Kollmer, Sophia Lear, and Garrett Schabb – all seasoned television writers and Guild members – to discuss the labor dispute. While the strike encompasses many dynamics, the timely intersection with a rapidly changing AI landscape has the writers entwined in the wild possibilities and existential threats of paradigm-shifting technology. Other entertainment guilds and labor unions are watching closely.Note: Nathan kicks off this episode with a longer-than-usual introduction and analysis as the subject matter of this episode requires some added context. If you would prefer to dive straight into the interviews, follow the timecodes below to skip ahead (and maybe give the intro a listen when you finish!)More about our guests Trey Kollmer, Sophia Lear, and Garrett Schabb and their work: Trey Kollmer, currently co-executive producer for the TV show Ghosts, was described to me as perhaps the single most knowledgeable guild member on the topic of AI. Follow him at @treyko on Twitter. Sophia Lear has been a writer for TV shows including Ghosts, The Unicorn, and New Girl, and was also previously an assistant literary editor for the New Republic. Garrett Schabb has written for shows including Tosh.0 and Suits (of Meghan Markle fame), and has also written for Crooked Media. Follow him at @garrettschabb TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview(01:54) Introduction and analysis for this episode (09:02) Trey Kollmer breaks down the dynamics of compensation, ownership and crediting for WGA writers, issues at the heart of the strike(14:52) Sponsor: Omneky(15:09) Recommendation: The AI Breakdown(22:42) Usefulness of AI for script writing (and will better training out of jailbreaks make it less useful?) (30:59) The main two AI-related demands of the labor dispute(42:48) Writers’ diverse reactions to AI, from hostility to experimentation(50:00) Picturing a long term Utopian future(57:46) Sophia Lear breaks down sentiments around GPT-4, AI-generated scripts and the previous eras of crappy sitcoms and bad streaming series (written by humans)(1:11:27) Whose jobs are safe?(1:17:03) Garrett Schabb breaks down dystopian/realistic view of studio’s incentives(1:20:33) How Garrett uses ChatGPT(1:27:37) Ethical boundaries of using the model to write like your favorite writers(1;32:16) The two types of storytelling in the future, UBI and decoupling writing from a professionSPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.Music Credit: MusicLMMore show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Nathan Labenz sits down with Andrew Feldman, CEO and Co-Founder of Cerebras Systems, a company building a new class of computer system for accelerating AI and changing the future of work. Cerebras Systems is the creator of the world’s largest chip, at 2.6 trillion transistors. In this episode, they discuss the founding story of Cerebras, the experience of creating the world’s largest chip, and the process that goes into chip design and manufacturing for an AI-focused chip. This episode is the first part of our hardware exploration series focused on the people building at the forefront of hardware applications in AI.LINKS:Cerebras: https://www.cerebras.net/Book: The Chip War by Chris MillerWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.PODCAST RECOMMENDATION:The AI Breakdown: https://pod.link/1680633614As anyone in AI knows, the pace of progress of new releases is relentless. The AI Breakdown is a daily podcast (10-20min long) that helps us ensure we don't miss anything important by curating news and analysis.TIMESTAMPS(00:00) Preview(04:27) Andrew’s story of creating the world’s largest chip and Cerebras(07:19) What is a chip?(08:14) The diversity of chips and what they can accomplish(09:47) What is it like to design a 2.5 trillion transistor chip?(12:41) The founding story of Cerebras and building the team(14:20) Sponsor: Omneky(23:00) What was the hardest part about building the company?(26:11) What happens after designing the chip’s blueprint?(27:29) The tradeoffs needed in chipmaking (34:08) The comparison between chips and neural networks(38:31) The generalization vs specialization of a chip (40:11) Sparse compute vs dense compute(43:55) Ghost in the machine(46:54) Supply chain challenges of the Cerebras chip(54:59) The future for chips(58:19) Building chip clusters(58:57) The Cerebras business model(01:00:41) Building a chip cluster vs using a Cerebras chip(01:02:57) Giant chips on the edge(01:05:32) What is the edge? (01:08:04) Andrew’s favorite AI products(01:10:08) Would Andrew get a Neuralink implant?(01:14:16) Consciousness and chips(01:17:50) AI hopes and fearsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@andrewdfeldman (Andrew)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.Music Credit: MusicLMMore show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Nathan Labenz sits down with engineer Shreya Rajpal, the creator of Guardrails AI, a new Python library that allows developers to add a layer of output, validation and correction to their code. Practically guardrails can ensure a reliable interface between language models and more traditional deterministic software systems. At the same time, mind-bending and potentially risky use case frameworks like Guardrails allow developers to ask and answer entirely new kinds of questions.Talking to Shreya really reinforced just how early we are in LLM’s impact on the software industry. We were introduced to Shreya’s work when recording our interview with Matt Welsh, the CEO of Fixie.AI (Ep 19: How AI Agents Will Change How We Work).LINKS:Guardrails AI: https://shreyar.github.io/guardrails/We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(05:00) Why Shreya built Guardrails AI(08:33) Common ways LMs can “go off the rails” and how Guardrails can correct it(13:45) Discussion of validators(15:31) Sponsor: Omneky(18:48) Business and creative use cases of Guardrails AI(25:00) What can be achieved by Guardrails AI that cannot be achieved by traditional code(32:44) How agents work vs how Guardrails works(35:34) AI as shepherd vs delegating to AI and the role of human understanding(39:54) Trust deficit and risks(46:33) Is it realistic to imagine GPT-4 using Guardrails?(52:00) How Shreya thinks about security(57:02) How Shreya thinks about embeddings(1:05:05) How Shreya thinks about problemsolving with LMs(1:07:50) Shreya on OpenAI’s Evals Library, Anthropic’s Constitutional AI(1:12:55) Discussion of determinism(1:15:00) Recommendations for developers to minimize overhead(1:26:00) Predictions about providers in the space of LMs(1:29:30) Shreya’s favorite AI tools(1:30:00) Would Shreya get a neuralink implant(1:31:50) Biggest hopes and fears for AITWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@ShreyaR (Shreya)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.Music Credit: MusicLMMore show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Nathan sits down with Vivek Natarajan, research scientist at Google Health. Vivek leads the Google Brain moonshot behind Med-PaLM, Google’s flagship medical large language model, featured in The Economist, The Scientific American, CNBC, and Forbes. In this episode, they discuss the foundational models that Vivek and team built before Med-PaLM, the techniques used to develop Med-PaLM which will be of interest to anyone developing AI systems for high-stakes use cases, and the capabilities for Med-PaLM to equalize access to medical knowledge and care.This episode is part of a series centered on talking to the people at the cutting edge of building AI-driven solutions in medicine.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.LINKS:https://sites.research.google/med-palm/FEEDBACK / COLLABORATE WITH NATHAN:Email: TCR@turpentine.coTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode preview(03:43) The story of how Med-PaLM came to be(09:41) Building Med-PaLM’s infrastructure(13:10) The US medical licensing exam as a measure of AI progress(15:23) Sponsor: Omneky(18:17) Practicality of benchmarking in real-world usage(21:39) Overcoming the shortfalls of Flan-PaLM with Med-PaLM(25:08) Choosing to use soft prompting over few shot prompting(30:36) The process of training Flan-PaLM(37:31) A curriculum approach to soft-prompting(38:43) Layperson vs expert interactions with LLMs(43:54) How did the Google team facilitate user exploration of the model’s capabilities?(46:58) Shift in techniques from Med-PaLM to Med-PaLM2(50:21) Using different prompting strategies with Med-PaLM2(57:33) Is Med-PaLM 2 preferred over clinicians?(01:02:28) Will there be a multimodal version of Med-PaLM?(01:04:52) Breakthroughs required for AI to further advance human potential(01:10:23) The Med-PaLM business plan(01:12:08) Is there a vision for a consumer product?(01:15:46) The pros and cons of pre-training a model(01:19:45) Vivek’s favorite AI products(01:21:01) Would Vivek get a Neuralink implant?(01:23:08) AI hopes and fearsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@vivnat (Vivek)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.Music Credit: MusicLMMore show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

[Bonus Episode] Future of Life Institute Podcast host Gus Docker interviews Conjecture CEO Connor Leahy to discuss GPT-4, magic, cognitive emulation, demand for human-like AI, and aligning superintelligence. You can read more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.devFuture of Life Institute is the organization that recently published an open letter calling for a six-month pause on training new AI systems. FLI was founded by Jann Tallinn who we interviewed in Episode 16 of The Cognitive Revolution.We think their podcast is excellent. They frequently interview critical thinkers in AI like Neel Nanda, Ajeya Cotra, and Connor Leahy - an episode we found particularly fascinating and is airing for our audience today.The FLI Podcast also recently interviewed Nathan Labenz for a 2-part episode:https://futureoflife.org/podcast/nathan-labenz-on-how-ai-will-transform-the-economy/SUBSCRIBE: Future of Life Institute Podcast:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/future-of-life-institute-podcast/id1170991978Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Op1WO3gwVwCrYHg4eoGyP--We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode introduction(01:55) GPT-4 (18:30) "Magic" in machine learning (29:43) Cognitive emulations (40:00) Machine learning VS explainability (49:50) Human data = human AI? (1:01:50) Analogies for cognitive emulations (1:28:10) Demand for human-like AI (1:33:50) Aligning superintelligence SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.If you'd like to listen to Part 2 of this interview with Connor Leahy, you can head here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/connor-leahy-on-the-state-of-ai-and-alignment-research/id1170991978?i=1000609972001