Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg delve into the upcoming economic transformation and the future of work in light of the threshold crossed by GPT-4.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsLINKS REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE:Microsoft research paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.12712TIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Preview(1:56) Unpacking "There will be economic transformation," Nathan’s reflection after red teaming GPT-4(4:55) A cross-section of prompts Nathan ran through GPT-4(17:00) Sponsor: Omneky(18:00) Future of business and a new style of Taylorism of knowledge work(28:00) The “shrinking category of work” and a new definition of work(36:00) A future of “Muggles” and the 1000x developer(51:15) Are we facing a bifurcated economy and regulations from special interest groups?(58:30) Upcoming morale shift of white-collar workers and predictionsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

We've looked forward to today's episode since we launched the show! Andreas Stuhlmuller and Jungwon Byun are the co-founders of Ought, a product-driven research lab that develops mechanisms for delegating open-ended thinking to advanced machine learning systems. Their flagship product, Elicit (elicit.org), is an AI research assistant that helps researchers accelerate time-consuming workflows, starting with literature review.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.LINKS REFERENCED IN EPISODE:Ought: https://ought.org/Elicit: https://elicit.org/TIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Preview(2:00) Nathan introduces the founders of Ought(4:20) Why doesn't AI serve better reasoning?(6:55) What limits the current paradigm(8:40) Reflections on the last six years of Ought’s research experiments of "composable thinking"(13:10) Error elimination mechanism is a shared challenge between human and AI systems(16:45) Sponsor: Omneky(18:00) Interpretability by construction product philosophy(25:00) Nathan’s personal experience using Elicit as a research assistant(30:00) Explicit concerns about model reasonings, and the importance of going a step further(36:00) What customers of OpenAI Foundry should consider(43:15) Evaluation challenges(48:15) Embeddings challenges(51:00) Vision for a knowledge work assembly line corporate paradigm(56:00) Ought's short-term approach to building: Understanding human ways of teaching the model to be more helpful(59:00) Wishful thinking versus real helpfulness(1:03:00) What's next for Elicit: expansion and new workflows(1:17:00) Zapier for reasoning(1:23:00) What are the most fundamental "magic questions" for all domains?(1:31:43) Significant impact of GPT4(1:36:00) How people are using Elicit(1:44:00) AI Uncertainty and reason for hope(1:48:00) 3 lightning-round questionsTWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@jungofthewon@stuhlmueller@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Anton Troynikov of Chroma and Flo Crivello of Lindy AI join The Cognitive Revolution cohosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg to debate the issues raised in the AI open letter, which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings.This episode was recorded on March 31st and was first released as a Moment of Zen episode (airing April 1). Subscribe to Moment of Zen for more timely debates like this one!Also, check out the debut of Erik's new long-form interview podcast Upstream, whose guests in the first two episodes were Balaji Srinivasan and Marc Andreessen. This coming season will feature interviews with Ezra Klein, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, and more. Subscribe here:Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/3z8TldLSpotify: bit.ly/40letd0We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsLINKS REFERENCED IN EPISODE: Open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/Scott Aronson blog post: https://scottaaronson.blog/TIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Preview of debate(3:10) Introduction from Nathan and explanation of the AI open letter(8:50) Anton’s skepticism of the open letter(12:14) Flo’s skepticism of the open letter(16:35) Nathan’s support for the open letter(22:52) Sponsor: Omneky(28:00) Differences between Flo and Anton’s positions(34:00) GPT4 is still dangerous(42:30) Luddites/“Pausers” are on the wrong side of history(47:44) Why not pause for 6 months?(56:30) Anton and Flo debate robotics(1:04:30) What we’re all scared of with AI(1:27:45) Is there an asymmetric risk with pausing or not pausing?TWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@atroyn (Anton)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@altimor (Flo)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/Thank you to Graham Bessellieu for production.

Nathan Labenz talks to Google Robotics researcher Keerthana Gopalakrishnan (@keerthanpg) about how they train robots at Google, and how robots contextualize their environment and complete tasks through supervised learning. They go deep on integrating language models for commands and how to approach translating them, as well as the importance of robotics safety. Keerthana also shares how we’re using robots to better understand ourselves, personal experiences using AI, and her hopes and fears about AI's impact on society.This episode provides valuable insights into the current state and potential future of robotics and AI, with Keerthana's expertise offering unique perspectives on these fascinating topics.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics(0:00) Preview to episode(0:51) Sponsor(1:09) Intro(5:20) GPT analogy for robotics(6:51) Domestic robots(10:53) Description of Google robotics(15:17) Controlling robots and supervised learning(18:50) How robots complete tasks(26:17) Using data to train robots(30:45) Data operability (36:02) Integrating language models for commands(38:58) How to approach translating commands(42:49) How robots contextualize their environment(47:02) Approach to robotics safety(51:02) Tasks that robots can’t/shouldn’t do(54:08) The hard bounds of robotics(59:17) Frequency of inference(1:03:50) Form factor in robotics(1:08:38) Using robots to better understand ourselves(1:12:23) Having robot friends and spouses(1:17:44) Inference and latency(1:19:17) The Google Robotics team(1:21:07) AI tools Keerthana uses in her personal lifeSPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive*Thank you Omneky* for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.Twitter:@CogRev_Podcast@keerthanpg (Keerthana)@labenz (Nathan)Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substackWebsites:cognitivervolution.aiomneky.comhttps://research.google/research-areas/robotics/https://research.google/teams/brain/

In this episode, hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg delve into the exciting and concerning aspects of GPT4, the latest large multimodal model from OpenAI. Nathan, who was a Red Teamer for GPT4, shares his experience working with the model, using it for real-life scenarios, and how he found it to be human-level rather than human-like intelligence. Nathan also highlights some of its fundamental weaknesses and limitations and shares the most concerning elements of GPT4. They end the episode pondering the arrival of GPT5 and whether we are in AI's "goldilocks moment."We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTimestamps for E11: Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast(0:00) Preview of Nathan on this episode(1:13) Upstream: Erik's new interview show(1:41) Intro(5:40) Nathan's experience as a GPT4 Red Teamer(11:22) Catching the AI wave(14:30) Using GPT4 for real-life scenarios(17:33) Sponsor: Omneky(21:00) Human-level, not human-like intelligence(26:00) GPT4 weaknesses(28:14) More real-life use cases for GPT4(35:25) Teaching AI to communicate within itself(40:25) GPT4’s limitations(44:32) Nathan's learnings from using GPT4(46:56) Nathan joining the Red Team(47:29) The most concerning thing about GPT4(1:05:42) GPT5(1:06:42) Open AI's regulatory breadcrumbs(1:13:52) AI's goldilocks momentSPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.Twitter:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substackThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

The development of ultra-realistic human voices is upon us, and Mahmoud Felfel's company Play.ht is leading the next generation of text-to-voice models. In this episode, we discuss the challenges and opportunities of automating a more human voice, as well as concerns about deep fakes and user safety.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTimestamps:(0:00) Preview of Mahmoud on this episode (0:55) Sponsor: Omneky.com (1:45) Nathan clones his voice using Play.ht (6:11) Why Mahmoud started Play.ht and the problem they tried to solve(13:08) The job to be done for Play.ht & how they’re thinking about APIs and models(24:45) Mahmoud breaks down the architecture of Play.ht(29:30) How the use cases have evolved (30:00) New markets and opportunities with creators(37:00) Are we all about to become prompt engineers/directors?(44:50) Roadmap to other languages beyond English(48:00) Managing the compute(52:00) If AI-generated voices becomes a commodity, what will happen?(55:00) Why bigger companies are late adopters of AI tools(56:30) The long-term moat of Play.ht and other applications(1:00:00) Controversial voice-cloning and potential for societal abuse(1:10:32) Commonly abused voices(1:12:36) Rapid fire questionsSPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKYShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.*Twitter:@CogRev_Podcast@_mfelfel (Mahmoud)@labenz (Nathan)Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substackWebsites:cognitivervolution.aiplay.htomneky.comThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

People have long been imagining AI assistants. Flo Crivello (founder of Teamflow) is turning that dream into a reality with the ambitious project Lindy. Flo sits down with Nathan on Lindy's announcement day to talk about this unique moment in AI, Lindy's capabilities, single-use apps, and how he sees the global impact that AI-powered employees can have on the future of work.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. Anyone who mentions "The Cognitive Revolution" when signing up for the Lindy beta will get priority access. (0:00) Preview (1:05) Sponsor: Omneky (4:50) Flo demos Lindy(9:21) Security and user experience (11:55) How this AI moment compares to the Industrial Revolution and single use apps (15:00) The dream AI assistant (19:54) Competition and advantages of startups (24:28) Cost vs Quality (31:19) How Lindy uses user data (32:37) Context and data injection (28:11) Comfort with ambiguity (43:10) Use of guardrails and trust concerns (47:26) AI safety and edge cases (49:16) Impact on labor markets (50:27) Economic resilience (52:09) Future of work (55:49) Rapid fire questions  SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKYShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off. Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack Websites: lindy.ai *mention "The Cognitive Revolution" when you sign up for the waitlist to get priority access* thecognitiverevolution.ai Twitter: @CogRev_Podcast @labenz (Nathan) @Altimor (Flo)RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

How will GPT4 change the world? How will US-China 'racing dynamics' play out and what are the implications for AI safety? Nathan Labenz was invited to record a special "emergency" episode of ChinaTalk podcast this week to discuss the implications GPT4 will have for policy, economics, and society. Thanks to Jordan Schneider of ChinaTalk, and fellow "AI justice league" guests Zvi Mowshowitz of 'Don't Worry About the Vase' and Matthew Mittelsteadt of Mercatus. We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. (0:00) Intro(2:09) GPT-4 emergency podcast(9:26) GPT-4 use cases(22:51) What GPT-4 can and can’t do(35:50) AI safety(45:38) OpenAI v. Anthropic (48:54) Governments’ role in AI(55:50) AI will improve physical health and healthcare the most(59:19) Facebook’s LLaMA model(01:05:55) VR/AR(01:08:59) Concerns with GPT4(01:15:26) GPT-5 and GPT-6(01:18:45) Optimism in the AI revolutionSPONSOR: SHOPIFY | OMNEKYShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale. Twitter:@CogRev_Podcast@labenz (Nathan)@jordanschnyc (Jordan) Websites:cognitivervolution.aiRECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

We talked to Aravind Srinivas about competing with the tech giants, Perplexity's product philosophy and obsession with maximizing value delivered to the user per unit time, and the features that makes Perplexity unique.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.(0:00) Preview(1:31) Introduction & Context(08:06) Aravind’s vision for Perplexity as the world’s most truth-centric company(9:29) Raising the average IQ of the world(12:00) Aravind’s favorite tech entrepreneur(15:12) “Anthropics” - Building your own model vs user experience(33:00) Why is perplexity free(43:00) Talking shop: Perplexity’s tech stack and speed(1:06:00) Perplexity’s stance on guardrails on search(1:19:48) Forecasting weakly general AGI: The four criteria(1:28:00) Aravind’s perspective on OpenAI and the future of AGI(1:39:00) The Cognitive Revolution’s rapid fire questions: Neuralink implant? Most used AI tools? AI hopes and fears?Twitter handles:@CogRev_Podcast@AravSrinivas (Aravind)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik) SPONSOR: SHOPIFY:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveJoin 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/ References & Shownotes:Flamingo: https://www.deepmind.com/blog/tackling-multiple-tasks-with-a-single-visual-language-modelDecision Transformer Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.01345Aravind on TalkRL Podcast: https://www.talkrl.com/episodes/aravind-srinivas-2Weakly General AGI Criteria: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/3479/date-weakly-general-ai-is-publicly-known/RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

As recently as January 2021, the challenge of "interpreting what is going on in a photograph" was considered "nowhere near solved." Today's guests Junnan Li and Dongxu Li changed that with their publication and open-sourcing of BLIP, which delivered state-of-the-art performance on image captioning and other vision-language tasks.BLIP became the #18 most-cited AI paper of 2022, and now Junnan and Dongxu are back with BLIP-2, this time showing how small models can harness the power of existing foundation models to do multi-modal tasks.We talked to Junnan and Dongxu about their research and how they see the trend toward connector models shaping the future.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.Timestamps:(00:00) Preview(01:17) Sponsor(01:35) Intro(05:50) Convergence of AI techniques(07:33) Evolution of BLIP to BLIP-2(08:12) How BLIP-2 unlocked multimodal functionality(12:43) The size, training dynamics, and optimization function of BLIP(20:15) Practical/Business applications of BLIP(29:43) Efficiency of BLIP-2 compared to other models(41:52) Two-stage pre-training(47:11) Architecture of Blip-2’s connector model(58:52) Language models as the executive function of the brain(01:07:32) Vision for an ultimate multimodal system and democratized pre-training for models(01:12:59) Useful AI tools in these researchers’ day-to-day(01:14:56) Upcoming projects SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKYShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off. Twitter:@CogRev_Podcast@LiJunnan0409 (Junnan Li)@DongxuLi_(Dongxu Li)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik) Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com Websites:Episode transcript at Cognitivervolution.aihuggingface.co/spaces/Salesforce/BLIPhuggingface.co/spaces/Salesforce/BLIP2 Show Notes:- Original BLIP demo- BLIP 2 demo- BLIP is the #18 most highly-cited paper in AI- Image captioning comparison tool- Understanding images with AI - for use in language models and image generation- Image Aesthetics - Product & Model ReviewsThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.