
The Long Game w/ Elijah Murray
Conversations about tech, AI, and startups. Hosted by Elijah Murray.
Latest episodes

Feb 14, 2025 • 47min
Dan Curran: AI, Publishing and the Future of the No-VC Path
Dan Curran is a serial entrepreneur and the founder of Chapters.io, an AI-driven publishing platform that helps individuals turn their experiences into books. With a background in content creation, multiple business exits, and leadership in entrepreneurship organizations, Dan shares his insights on how AI is reshaping publishing, the challenges of maintaining editorial integrity, and why storytelling matters.In this conversation, we explored: The role of AI in modern publishing and book creation How human editors and AI can work together for better storytelling The importance of preserving life experiences and wisdom How to build a business without venture capitalEPISODE LINKS:Dan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/currandan/Chapters.io: https://www.chapters.io/TIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro and background00:01:20 The Intersection of AI and Publishing00:02:30 Challenges and Innovations in Book Publishing00:04:05 The Process of Writing with Chapters00:05:49 Human-AI Collaboration in Storytelling00:11:09 Addressing AI Concerns and Ethical Considerations00:14:19 Lessons Learned from Building AI Applications00:19:10 Balancing Human and AI Elements in Writing00:22:34 Building with AI: Frameworks and Guidelines00:23:37 Tailoring Content for Different Audiences00:25:06 The Future of Content Creation00:26:32 Navigating the Rapid Changes in AI00:42:27 Entrepreneurial Insights and Advice00:45:39 ClosingCONNECT: Website:https://hoo.be/elijahmurray YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@elijahmurray Twitter:https://twitter.com/elijahmurray Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/elijahmurray LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijahmurray/ Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game-w-elijah-murray/ Spotify:https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elijahmurray RSS:https://anchor.fm/s/3e31c0c/podcast/rss

Feb 6, 2025 • 41min
Anya Cheng: AI in Fashion, Networking Your Way to Success & Leaving Big Tech
Anya Cheng is the Founder and CEO of Taelor, a leading men's clothing subscription service that provides personal styling and curated rentals, powered by expert stylists and AI. A Girls in Tech 40 Under 40 honoree, she previously led eCommerce and digital innovation teams at Meta, eBay, Target, and McDonald's.Experience effortless style with rental and personal styling services:Taelor: Get 25% OFF your first month of men's clothing subscription.Use code: PODCAST25Sign up at: https://taelor.style/pages/membershipArmoire: Get 50% OFF your first month of women's clothing subscription.Use code: ArmoirexTaelorSign up at: https://www.armoire.style/refer/ArmoirexTaelorGive the gift of time, convenience, and effortless style:Taelor Gift Cards: Get 10% OFF Use code: PODCASTGIFTPurchase at: https://taelor.style/products/menswear-rental-gift-cardIn this conversation, we explore:The transition from big tech to startup lifeHow AI and unique data give startups a competitive edgeChallenges of being an immigrant entrepreneurThe fast fashion dilemma and how Taelor is tackling itWriting as a tool for stress relief and legacy buildingEPISODE LINKS:Anya Cheng LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anyachengTaelor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/taelor/Taelor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taelor.style/Taelor Website: https://taelor.style/pages/membershipTIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Intro and background00:01:03 From Big Tech to Entrepreneurship00:03:20 Networking and Building Relationships00:05:38 Obstacles as an Immigrant in the US00:13:56 Taelor: AI-Powered Menswear Rental00:19:48 The Fast Fashion Conundrum00:20:20 Challenges in the Rental Fashion Market00:24:21 AI's Role in Fashion and Business00:24:38 Founding and Growing Taelor00:25:54 AI and Investment00:27:10 Unique Data00:36:03 Authoring Books and Giving Back00:40:14 ClosingCONNECT:Website: https://hoo.be/elijahmurrayYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@elijahmurrayTwitter: https://twitter.com/elijahmurrayInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/elijahmurrayLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijahmurray/Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game-w-elijah-murray/Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elijahmurrayRSS: https://anchor.fm/s/3e31c0c/podcast/rss

Jan 28, 2025 • 59min
Aytekin Tank: Building Jotform, Bootstrapping Success, and AI Innovation
Aytekin Tank is the founder of Jotform, an automation enthusiast, and author. In this conversation, we explore his journey from rural Turkey to New York, building Jotform without outside funding, and the role customer feedback played in shaping the product. Aytekin also shares strategic insights on company culture, his approach to leadership, and how AI is shaping Jotform’s future.
EPISODE LINKS:
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Intro and background
00:00:17 The Entrepreneurial Journey Begins
00:00:35 Discovering a Passion for Computers
00:06:02 From Employee to Entrepreneur
00:08:06 Building JotForm: The Early Days
00:12:24 Facing Competition and Growth
00:20:46 Bootstrapping and Company Culture
00:25:00 Balancing Work and Personal Life
00:28:06 Team Collaboration and Culture
00:29:08 Balancing Work and Personal Life
00:30:15 Delegation and Leadership
00:32:08 Focus on AI Product Development
00:33:27 Introducing JotForm AI Agents
00:42:45 The Future of AI in Business
00:54:17 Closing
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Jan 16, 2025 • 48min
Bryan Trilli: Can AI Have a Soul? Ethics, Consciousness & ‘Soulless Intelligence’
Bryan Trilli is an AI expert, entrepreneur, and author of Soulless Intelligence. In this conversation, we explore the ethics and philosophical implications of artificial intelligence, focusing on:
-The moral dilemmas of AI development.
-Whether AI can ever become conscious.
-How AI is changing our understanding of humanity, sentience, and value.
EPISODE LINKS:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/bryantrilli
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryantrilli
Website: https://www.bryantrilli.com
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Exploring Human Sentience and AI
00:03:34 The Ethics and Morality of AI
00:04:50 Philosophical and Religious Perspectives
00:13:25 Defining AGI and Its Implications
00:19:32 Consciousness and Near-Death Experiences
00:24:09 The Intelligence of Machines
00:25:22 Human Worth Beyond Intelligence
00:28:51 Moral Standards and AI
00:31:24 AI and Human Rights
00:38:37 The Future of AI in Physics
00:43:41 Misconceptions and Fears About AI
00:47:27 Closing
CONNECT:
Website: https://hoo.be/elijahmurray
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@elijahmurray
Twitter: https://twitter.com/elijahmurray
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elijahmurray
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijahmurray/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game-w-elijah-murray/
Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elijahmurray
RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/3e31c0c/podcast/rss

Jan 8, 2025 • 48min
Assaf Weinburg: AI Solopreneurs, Venture 2.0, and the Joy of Creation
Assaf Weinburg is a serial entrepreneur and AI enthusiast with over 25 years of experience in product development and business leadership. In this episode of The Long Game, we discuss:
How AI is empowering solopreneurs and transforming startups.
Insights from Assaf’s AI-driven educational business with his wife.
The evolving role of venture capital and workforce structures in the AI age.
Why 'play' and joy are critical to productivity and innovation.
Whether you’re a startup founder or looking to stay ahead in an AI-driven world, Assaf’s insights will inspire and educate.
EPISODE LINKS:
Twitter: https://x.com/assafweinberg
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/assafweinberg/
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Welcome to the Long Game Podcast
00:00:49 The Solopreneur Golden Age
00:03:40 Disruption and Opportunity with AI
00:06:13 Building a Business with AI
00:11:36 Case Study: A Two-Person Company
00:21:49 Venturing into HVAC Industry
00:23:41 Childhood Perception of Technology and Business
00:25:13 The Motivation Behind Creation
00:26:13 The Art of Sandwich Making
00:27:53 Finding Joy in Work and Play
00:39:02 AI and the Future of Work
00:43:09 Failure and Playing the Long Game
CONNECT:
Website: https://hoo.be/elijahmurray
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@elijahmurray
Twitter: https://twitter.com/elijahmurray
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elijahmurray
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijahmurray/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game-w-elijah-murray/
Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elijahmurray
RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/3e31c0c/podcast/rss

Jan 2, 2025 • 40min
Kyle Bhiro: Weaponized AI, Open Source Innovation, and AI Security
Kyle Bhiro is the 25-year-old co-founder of PensarAI, an open-source AI security platform addressing the challenges of weaponized AI. In this conversation, we explore Kyle's mission to combat AI vulnerabilities, democratize security solutions for developers, and foster open-source innovation. We also dive into his entrepreneurial journey, overcoming imposter syndrome, securing venture funding, and navigating the future of AI.
EPISODE LINKS:
Website: https://www.pensarai.com/
Twitter: https://x.com/kylebhiro
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylebhiro/
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Intro and background
00:01:21 Pensar
00:02:55 Trends in AI and Startup Landscape
00:06:51 Building for Customers and Open Source
00:10:34 Pensar Use Cases
00:16:10 The Vision for Pensar
00:20:58 Getting Advisors: The Bold Approach
00:21:41 Leveraging Existing Relationships
00:27:24 Fundraising Tips and Experiences
00:28:48 The Role of Accelerators
00:34:32 The Future of AI
00:38:27 Closing
CONNECT:
Website: https://hoo.be/elijahmurray
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@elijahmurray
Twitter: https://twitter.com/elijahmurray
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elijahmurray
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijahmurray/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game-w-elijah-murray/
Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elijahmurray
RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/3e31c0c/podcast/rss

Dec 25, 2024 • 57min
Adam Nagus: Leading with AI, Data Storytelling, and Building Empathetic Teams in Tech
Adam Nagus, a digital transformation leader with a rich background at Accenture and FTI Consulting, discusses the synergy of AI and data storytelling in tech environments. He shares insights on building empathetic, AI-focused teams and the critical role of emotional intelligence in technology. The conversation highlights the importance of user-centric design in data visualization to translate complex data into actionable insights. Adam emphasizes navigating the challenges of integrating AI within organizations, advocating for effective leadership and communication.

Dec 18, 2024 • 1h 5min
Anthony Pierri: Product Positioning, Niche Marketing, and Messaging Clarity
Anthony Pierri is the co-founder of Fletch PMM, a consultancy that helps early-stage B2B startups sharpen their positioning and better articulate their value propositions.
In this conversation, we explored:
Why niche marketing is critical for early-stage success
How small teams can scale effectively
Practical steps for defining a product’s positioning using seven key elements
Anthony also dives into the importance of clear messaging, tangible go-to-market assets, and the psychology behind buyer decisions. A must-listen for B2B startups looking to stand out.
EPISODE LINKS:
Fletch PMM: https://www.fletchpmm.com
Anthony on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-pierri
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Intro and Background
00:01:20 Fletch PMM
00:01:58 Positioning and Messaging Strategies
00:05:55 Custom Services vs. Productized Services
00:07:50 Vagueness in Product Marketing
00:10:12 Stages of Product Market Fit
00:11:48 Investor Expectations and Market Focus
00:13:06 Executive Alignment and Brand Messaging
00:14:48 Mental Availability and Positioning
00:19:00 Belief Change and Niching Down
00:24:35 Organic Content and Personal Branding
00:29:00 Content Strategy and Funnel Building
00:33:22 Common Homepage Mistakes
00:35:39 The Importance of Focus in Marketing
00:36:39 Voice of the Customer
00:39:53 The Buying Decision Process
00:42:51 Homepages in Customer Acquisition
00:45:03 Positioning Transformation
00:49:24 Steps to Effective Positioning
00:50:53 Choosing the Right Market Segment
01:03:42 Closing
CONNECT:
Website: https://hoo.be/elijahmurray
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@elijahmurray
Twitter: https://twitter.com/elijahmurray
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elijahmurray
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijahmurray/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game-w-elijah-murray/
Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elijahmurray
RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/3e31c0c/podcast/rss

Dec 11, 2024 • 35min
Deepak Chintala: Digital Twins, State-Backed Companies in the Middle East, and Industry 4.0
Deepak Chintala is a seasoned consultant specializing in business strategy and digital transformation, having driven $100M+ in value through digital initiatives. In this conversation, we explore how state-backed enterprises in the Middle East drive economic impact, the adoption of Industry 4.0 technologies like digital twins, and AI's growing influence in modernizing operations and decision-making.
EPISODE LINKS:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dchintala/
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Intro and background
00:00:55 Consulting in Digital Transformation
00:02:04 Challenges in Capital Intensive Industries
00:04:54 State-Backed Companies in the Middle East
00:08:29 Balancing Profit and Public Objectives
00:13:12 Industry 4.0 and Digital Twins
00:18:49 Automation vs. Human Involvement
00:20:17 Challenges of Traditional Logic-Based Systems
00:20:41 Human Adaptability vs. Machine Limitations
00:21:11 Introduction to Artificial Intelligence
00:21:24 AI in the Automotive Industry
00:22:10 AI and Gen AI in Consulting
00:22:40 Liquid Expectations in Digital Tech
00:23:26 Adoption and Use Cases of Gen AI
00:26:33 Challenges in AI Implementation
00:29:38 Future Predictions for AI and Technology
00:32:05 Exciting Technologies Beyond AI
00:34:41 Closing
CONNECT:
Website: https://hoo.be/elijahmurray
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@elijahmurray
Twitter: https://twitter.com/elijahmurray
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elijahmurray
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elijahmurray/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game-w-elijah-murray/
Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elijahmurray
RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/3e31c0c/podcast/rss

Dec 4, 2024 • 37min
Chris Duffey: Adobe Firefly, AI in Creativity, and the Creator Economy
Chris Duffey, a key player in technological futurism at Adobe, discusses the innovative Adobe Firefly and its transformative effects on creative workflows. He emphasizes the ethical implications of AI, focusing on authenticity and traceability. The conversation delves into how AI is reshaping employment roles, enhancing collaboration among teams, and paving the way for immersive experiences. Duffey also shares insights on the future of virtual reality and the growing influence of creators in corporate strategy, highlighting his own experience co-authoring a book with AI.