

Melissa & Lori Love Literacy ®
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Melissa & Lori Love Literacy® is a podcast for teachers. The hosts are your classroom-next-door teacher friends turned podcasters learning with you. Episodes feature top literacy experts and teachers who are putting the science of reading into practice. Melissa & Lori bridge the gap between the latest research and your day-to-day teaching.
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Aug 29, 2025 • 54min
Making Sense of Reading Assessments with Michelle Hosp
Episode 234 Michelle Hosp joins us to break down the different types of literacy assessments within an MTSS framework in the most approachable way.We talk:universal screenersdiagnosticsprogress monitoringformative assessmentsMost importantly, we talk about when and why to use each one. Michelle helps us shift the question from “Which test should I give?” to “What do I need to know to help my students grow?” We also dig in to the power of curriculum-based measures (CBM), what makes assessment data meaningful, and how schools can align their resources to actually make a difference.If you're feeling overwhelmed by data or unsure how to use it effectively, this episode will help you think more clearly about assessments and walk away empowered to use your data to help all your students become readers. ResourcesThe ABCs of CBM: A Practical Guide to Curriculum-Based MeasurementNational Center on Intensive InterventionData Teaming Tools We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

Aug 15, 2025 • 46min
Kindergarten Intervention That Gets Results
Episode 233 In this episode, we sit down with speech-language pathologist Linsey Jones, who’s leading groundbreaking work in her district by delivering smart, targeted, and manageable literacy interventions to kindergarten students.Linsey shares how her background in speech-language pathology led her to create a data-driven, highly responsive tier 2 intervention program. She walks us through how she uses assessments (think: letter-sound knowledge, early phonemic awareness, and real-time data tracking), what her 15-minute intervention sessions really look like, and how thoughtful collaboration with classroom teachers has created system-wide change.We also talk about how her work has been influenced by literacy expert Julia Lindsey and how their entire district is now seeing almost no students falling behind by the end of kindergarten.ResourcesLearn more about Linsey's Tier 2 Phonemic Awareness Intervention ProgramCheck out Linsey's website: speechlanguageliteracyconnection.com Research-Based Routines for Developing Decoding Skills with Julia Lindsey (podcast episode) Reading Above the Fray by Julia Lindsey (book)Kindergarten TEAM Reaches (nearly) 100% Success Using Evidence-Based Practices (podcast episode)Upstream: The Quest to Solve Problems Before They Happen by Dan Heath (book) We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

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Aug 1, 2025 • 53min
MTSS for Reading Improvement with Stephanie Stollar and Sarah Brown
Episode 232We know MTSS can feel like one more acronym and maybe one more thing on your plate. But what if it was the thing that helped everything else run more smoothly instead?In this episode, we chat with Stephanie Stollar and Sarah Brown, authors of MTSS for Reading Improvement, who help us rethink what strong systems of support actually look like. Together, we explore how to move beyond one-off interventions and start building aligned, school-wide systems that support every reader. You’ll hear:The difference between MTSS and interventionWhy Tier 1 instruction is your most powerful lever for changeWhat it looks like to work within your reality, not around itHow class-wide supports and smart teaming can lead to huge growthWays teachers (even without formal leadership roles) can spark changeRESOURCESMTSS for Reading Improvement by Stephanie Stollar and Sarah Brown Reading Science Academy with Stephanie Stollar MTSS Data Academy with Sarah Brown Schoolwide Reading MTSS CollaborativeThe Reading League Book Study for MTSS for Reading Improvement (You can still sign up for recordings!) We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

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Jul 18, 2025 • 47min
Scaffolding Challenging Texts for All Readers with Christina Cover
Episode 231Working with students who struggle to make sense of complex texts? You’re not alone! Christina Cover, a high school special educator, interventionist, English teacher, and literacy coordinator, is here to help! In this episode, Christina shares real-world, research-based strategies she uses to help her students break down and make sense of challenging texts. From her go-to routine Getting the Gist to building vocabulary and using morphology instruction in context, Christina walks us through what works in her classroom.You’ll hear:How to support students in summarizing and understanding complex textsWhy vocabulary and morphology matter so much for comprehensionWays to make test prep meaningful without sacrificing deeper readingHow writing can be a powerful tool for reading comprehensionIf you teach in grades 3 and up, this episode is full of tools and inspiration you can take straight back to your classroom.Resources:Getting the G.I.S.T. Word Matrices Frayer Models Collaborative Strategic Reading (CSR) The Writing RevolutionQFT: Question Formulation TechniqueProject for Adolescent Literacy: email: pal@seekcommonground.org We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

Jul 11, 2025 • 40min
The Power of Text Sets with Freddy Hiebert
Bonus EpisodeIn this episode, Melissa and Lori sit down with Freddy Hiebert, founder of Text Project, to dive deep into the critical role texts play in reading instruction. They explore how the types of texts provided to students not only shape their reading practice but also influence their self-perception as readers.Freddy shares her expertise on understanding text features and the vital role of repetition in vocabulary acquisition. The conversation highlights how background knowledge supports comprehension and the thoughtful development of decodable texts to support early readers.They also discuss exciting advancements like the use of AI for generating reading materials and the importance of designing engaging, relevant texts for middle and high school students.Freddy unpacks the significance of morphological families, polysemy, and semantic mapping, stressing how teachers must grasp these complexities to support deeper word learning and understanding. She underscores the importance of offering students a diverse “text diet” to build vocabulary and comprehension skills.Listeners will come away with fresh insights on creating engaging texts for diverse learners and innovative strategies for vocabulary teaching that combine context, repetition, and thoughtful text design.Visit TextProject.org for more info. We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

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Jul 4, 2025 • 53min
What the Research Says about Difficult Texts with Kristin Conradi Smith, John Strong, & Steve Amendum
In this enlightening discussion, Kristin Conradi Smith, a reading motivation expert, John Strong, an associate professor specializing in informational texts, and Steve Amendum, a literacy complexity guru, tackle the importance of challenging texts in education. They clarify differences between text complexity and difficulty, emphasizing thoughtful scaffolding to help students thrive. The conversation highlights strategies for assessing diverse learners, the role of decodable texts, and the value of read-alouds in early grades, packed with insights to inspire educators.

Jun 20, 2025 • 51min
Making Words Stick with Molly Ness and Katie Pace MIles
Katie Pace Miles, a researcher and co-author of "Making Words Stick," teams up with Molly Ness, another co-author and education expert, to dive into orthographic mapping. They discuss how mapping aids reading fluency and comprehension, differentiating it from mere memorization. Their four-step protocol enhances vocabulary retention, emphasizing the trifecta of phonology, orthography, and meaning. They also address tailored literacy instruction, exploring strategies for diverse reading abilities and the pivotal role of function words in language comprehension.

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Jun 6, 2025 • 53min
Helping Students Read Multisyllabic Words with Devin Kearns
This week features Devin Kearns, a literacy researcher and professor at NC State, who specializes in early reading and the brain's reading processes. He discusses the challenges students face when decoding multisyllabic words, especially around third grade. Kearns emphasizes the importance of flexible decoding strategies and the schwa sound. He shares practical, research-backed methods like syllable division and the 'peeling off' technique to enhance student comprehension and pronunciation, debunking traditional methods in favor of evidence-based approaches.

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May 30, 2025 • 54min
Revisiting Fluency Instruction and Assessment with Jan Hasbrouck
Episode 227In this episode, Jan Hasbrouck discusses the critical components of reading fluency, focusing on automaticity and its measurement through words correct per minute (WCPM). The discussion highlights the relationship between fluency and comprehension, the role of oral reading fluency in assessing student progress, and the importance of frequent assessments in the classroom. Jan also reflects on recent research findings from NAEP scores that challenge previous assumptions about fluency and automaticity, emphasizing the need for educators to adapt their understanding and practices based on evolving research. The discussion also touches on the debate between repeated reading and wide reading, advocating for an approach to reading instruction that incorporates both methods. Hasbrouck encourages educators to embrace continuous learning and adapt their teaching strategies based on evolving research.Resources Hasbrouck Tindal 2017 ORF Norms Chart2018 NAEP Oral Reading Fluency Study by White, S., et. al. Listen to more Melissa & Lori podcast episodes on Fluency! We answer your questions about teaching reading in The Literacy 50-A Q&A Handbook for Teachers: Real-World Answers to Questions About Reading That Keep You Up at Night.Grab free resources and episode alerts! Sign up for our email list at literacypodcast.com.Join our community on Facebook, and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.

May 23, 2025 • 50min
[Listen Again] Building Fluency with POSSUM with Maryanne Wolf and Melissa Orkin
In this engaging discussion, renowned author Maryanne Wolf, a leader in dyslexia research, joins former teacher Melissa Orkin, who has collaborated with Wolf for 15 years. They delve into the vital concept of reading fluency, emphasizing its impact on comprehension and social-emotional well-being, especially for struggling readers. They introduce the innovative POSSUM approach, which integrates various aspects of word knowledge, helping educators adopt holistic strategies for teaching reading and ensuring that students thrive in their literacy journeys.